For the Nth time, a broken wheel stud

[Type 100]

Wala sa manual ng subaru yung torque settings so have to check casa siguro...

Try 98 Nm of torque.

My lugnuts are from Kyo-Ei. They sell lugnuts meant for a lot of car manufacturers (yes even Subaru) and 98 Nm is the lowest torque they recommend, so that should work.

Maximum torque spec for Kyo-Ei's lugnuts is 110 Nm.

[wowiesy]

No, don't use any other types of grease. It should be capable of handling high temperature. Typically, copper grease is used to serve as both lubricant and anti-seizing compound.

I still have this lying in the garage that I use on my bikes' brake pads (back side), guide pins and anywhere it requires an anti-seize grease. I've had it for more than 10 years I think that I've forgotten where I bought it from.

Found the same type at concorde megamall....

[wowiesy]

Yes, its use is rather rare. The only place I've seen mechanics use a torque wrench on lugnuts is AutoPlus, and they're not exactly your run-of-the-mill garage. If you're interested in buying your own, I got mine at True Value, although not all the branches have it in stock and you might have to do some cross-shopping to see the micrometer type I recommend.

For Japanese cars there are two different thread pitches for lug bolts and lugnuts.
M12x1.5 is the more common variety used by Mitsubishi, Toyota, Daihatsu, Honda and Suzuki, among others.
M12x1.25, the smaller thread pitch, is used by Nissan and Subaru (I'm not sure who else).
This still doesn't explain why you had lug bolt trouble with your Subaru, though...I maintain that if torque is correct, then bad metallurgy is to blame.

Kung may 2 kinds of thread pitches... Di kaya ito ang problem? Dito pa lang siguradong loose thread na di ba?

[Type 100]

Kung may 2 kinds of thread pitches... Di kaya ito ang problem? Dito pa lang siguradong loose thread na di ba?

If you still have stock lugnuts I doubt they have the wrong thread size. Cross-threading would usually occur if you swapped out the stock lugnuts for aftermarket ones without matching the thread pitch.

[wowiesy]

If you still have stock lugnuts I doubt they have the wrong thread size. Cross-threading would usually occur if you swapped out the stock lugnuts for aftermarket ones without matching the thread pitch.

Was able to talk to the SA sa gh... Asked for the torque specs... Unang bigay ay kinulit ko kung tama dahil lumalabas 115Nm... Binalikan nya ako and said 100Nm daw. May pinakita ang print out na supposedly off heir manual... Alrho i coudnt determine kung sa internet din lang nya kinuha yun...

Also asked if putting copper grease was advisable... Di nya alam kung ano yun...

And mukhang common din daw to sa iba... May mga forester na daw na nagkaganito sa kanila.... Pag warranty daw sagot nila... Pag dna under warranty... Bayad client.... Mukhang puwede nila pagakitaan to.... Alam naman daw ng service manager altho di lang alinaw what action they are taking regarding this...,

[juliancohen]

Definately not a Subaru issue, but an overtightening issues. It has happened to me twice, neither time on my Subaru, but both times by the same mechanic. The mechanic was lazy and put pipe on the end of the tire wrench to make it easy to tighten, but in doing that, it becomes very easy to over tighten. I now NEVER allow a pipe to be used when tightening lug nuts.

[dr. d]

Definately not a Subaru issue, but an overtightening issues. It has happened to me twice, neither time on my Subaru, but both times by the same mechanic. The mechanic was lazy and put pipe on the end of the tire wrench to make it easy to tighten, but in doing that, it becomes very easy to over tighten. I now NEVER allow a pipe to be used when tightening lug nuts.

right!
pang-truck lang ang breaker bar.

[StockEngine]

right!
pang-truck lang ang breaker bar.

breaker bar is only for loosening.

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[Vodka]

i rotated my tires just a few minutes ago. breaker bar to loosen. but i used torque wrench to tighten. manual says 80 ft lbs

even on my bike i use a torque wrench on the important components

yeah beware of those tire place folks who work on trucks

also take note that the torque rating is for dry unlubricated nuts. if you use grease or anti-seize the torque will be different

[MR_BIG18]

me too, i going to subaru nxt month to have it fixed, buwisit yan servitech bicutan

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[jaggerx3]

breaker bar is only for loosening.

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May iba ginagamit din yata yan for tightening

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[dr. d]

breaker bar is only for loosening.

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i have lived long enough, to see them tire guys use the bar, loosening as well as tightening.

[yebo]

meron anri-seize copper grease sa lazada.

Carplan/Carlube Mullti-Purpose Grease Copper 2g | Lazada PH

i still have my plastic bottle of copaslip. i need to remind myself to do the everest lug nuts one of these days.

[Wh1stl3r]

Yung mga pneumatic impact wrench sa mga service shops sobrang lakas ng torque. Dapat sa lug nut removal lang ginagamit kung walang setting sa tamang torque yung gun.

Minsan pa hindi nila kinakamay yung nut para lumapat sa thread bago gamitan ng impact wrench. Doon nagkakaroon ng stripped threads minsan. Best still to have it hand tightened with a torque wrench.

[sp00nman]

Yung mga pneumatic impact wrench sa mga service shops sobrang lakas ng torque. Dapat sa lug nut removal lang ginagamit kung walang setting sa tamang torque yung gun.

Minsan pa hindi nila kinakamay yung nut para lumapat sa thread bago gamitan ng impact wrench. Doon nagkakaroon ng stripped threads minsan. Best still to have it hand tightened with a torque wrench.

Ganito nangyari sa front left wheel ng Erti namen. Sabi sa Suzuki, need na rin daw palitan yung bearing kasi machine pressed kasama yung hub pag tinanggal para palitan yung isang stud. hindi makukuha sa pukpok kasi sasabit sa plate

Ganon ba talaga ang mga machine pressed na stud, especially yung bearing hindi na pwede i-reinstall at sira or masisira na once tinanggal?

TIA

[yapoy86]

Ganito nangyari sa front left wheel ng Erti namen. Sabi sa Suzuki, need na rin daw palitan yung bearing kasi machine pressed kasama yung hub pag tinanggal para palitan yung isang stud. hindi makukuha sa pukpok kasi sasabit sa plate

Ganon ba talaga ang mga machine pressed na stud, especially yung bearing hindi na pwede i-reinstall at sira or masisira na once tinanggal?

TIA

Sadly.. yes.. pero alam ko pwede replace yun stud without removing the hub.. pero kailangan press yung stud so tanggal dapat yung disc

[Vodka]

funny how people say "Nth time" like this N is supposed to be a big number. actually N can be anything, like N=1

so the title would read like this:

For the 1st time, a broken wheel stud

[12vdc]

n could also be a fraction = semi broken.

In my isuzu recently after PMS napansin ko putol lug nut. Binalik ko sa S/A then nakalimutan daw nya bigay ung recommendation to replace the broken lug nut. Sabiko kumpleto yun lug nun pinasok ko then nun nilabas bawas na..

Same thing happened to the Chevy, todo tanggi si S/A. Guilty naman mga mekaniko nilang gumagamit ng impact gun dahil kung hindi ko pa sinabihan na gamitan ng torque wrench eh tlagang rattle gun parin ang gagamitin..

[AKT 666]

Ganito nangyari sa front left wheel ng Erti namen. Sabi sa Suzuki, need na rin daw palitan yung bearing kasi machine pressed kasama yung hub pag tinanggal para palitan yung isang stud. hindi makukuha sa pukpok kasi sasabit sa plate

Ganon ba talaga ang mga machine pressed na stud, especially yung bearing hindi na pwede i-reinstall at sira or masisira na once tinanggal?

TIA

Nangyari rin sakin sa right side. Para matanggal, pina-acetylene torch ko. Yun lang, medyo nasunog mags.. sa suzuki manila bay mo ba pinapa-maintain ertiga mo?

[Wave24/7]

Is it happening on the same hub? buy or borrow a torque wrench before bringing it to a shop (of course, it's better if you know how to diy the stud change) then re-torque them YOURself before driving the car back home.

To do a re-torquing, slightly unscrew the lug nuts then re-tighten them with your torque wrench at about 80 ft-lbs. Or check your manual to make sure.