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    Even during their previous bout, Marquez was controlling the fight.
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Not dominated? Anong laban napanood mo sir?
    Same as what you had watched, can you say he was " totally dominated by JMM "?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetlucious View Post
    To those monday morning Qbs who kept on suggesting that pacman should retire, how could he retire when he was still leading on all 3 judges scorecards until that punch. He still can go toe to toe with JMM, its not as if he was totally dominated by JMM.
    Kissing the canvass isn't part of domination....

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    maybe na-dominate.. kaya lang di kase nag ingat.. ayan tulog... =)

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    Get real people. Pacman was ahead on the scorecard and was surprisingly controlling the fight until JMM's hay-maker. Or maybe you're watching the previous fight.

    Good thing JMM did because if he lost again on scorecard... My golly! You say Filipinos are sour-grapes? Look at them Mexicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoDer View Post
    My golly! You say Filipinos are sour-grapes? Look at them Mexicans.
    bakit pala? what do they usually rant about (whenever they don't like the results)? i didn't bother to watch the bout yesterday because i had a busy evening the night before and so i just opted to hit the sack

    btw, grabe pala ang galit ni mommy d. i just saw her ranting on national tv
    Last edited by baludoy; December 10th, 2012 at 09:40 AM.

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    Maraming nagsasabing "lucky punch" lang daw ang tumalo kay Pacman.... Sadly,- typical na Pinoy excuse ito...

    Pero, has anyone really thought about training, training, and training? And, the desire and heart to win?....

    Our dear Pacman should take a hard look at himself....

    Iba ang labanan sa loob ng ring... The hours you've invested into your training and preparation (mind, body and heart) will give you the necessary edge against your formidable opponent...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post

    Maraming nagsasabing "lucky punch" lang daw ang tumalo kay Pacman.... Sadly,- typical na Pinoy excuse ito...

    Pero, has anyone really thought about training, training, and training? And, the desire and heart to win?....

    Our dear Pacman should take a hard look at himself....

    Iba ang labanan sa loob ng ring... The hours you've invested into your training and preparation (mind, body and heart) will give you the necessary edge against your formidable opponent...

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    True! from the legend himself Ali once said, "The fight is won or lost far away from the witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym, and out there on the road; long before I dance under those lights.”


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    Nandyan pa rin ang speed and power ni Pacman no doubt about that. But ung toughness seems to be lacking which is evident in the 1st knockdown. Pacman will never be the same again after that KO loss. Seems like the cloak of invisibility (so to speak) of Pacman is gone.

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    Pacman had a history of being KD when hit by a perfect timed punch or even any boxer for this matter. That's boxing

    Pac took the risk of moving forward, miscalculated JMMs power and paid the price. JMM is the better fighter that night.

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    My point of view.

    MP is ahead in the fight after getting really serious. Gigil lang talaga at gusto na tapusin si JMM kaya naging vulnerable atake ni MP. With boold gushing from JMM's nose, the longer the fight takes, he will get more tired since his breathing is becoming a problem. Sayang, one word to describe what I feel about the fight.

    I know some would say na mag-retire na siya and they are probably right, but precisely because he was winning the fight when he was KO'd kaya masakit yun esp. ka Manny. I would not be against a 5th meeting if that is the reason for MP's return, to prove to himself that he can KO JMM as well. He is a fighter before he became someone else. Hope that he will regain that form and mentality if ever there is indeed a 5th fight. I would understand him for that.

    And BTW, I would not be surprised if JMM fails a more rigorous drug testing. Angel Hernandez is known around the sports world as the ultimate cheater. He is of olympic caliber. His name is of enough malice to compel the change from Heredia to Hernandez. *39 years of age, you don't have growth anymore, it's impossible to get strong without sacrificing something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Nandyan pa rin ang speed and power ni Pacman no doubt about that. But ung toughness seems to be lacking which is evident in the 1st knockdown. Pacman will never be the same again after that KO loss. Seems like the cloak of invisibility (so to speak) of Pacman is gone.
    Put3,- parang si Harry Potter iyan, bro...

    It is obvious that you meant the cloak of invincibility....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Nandyan pa rin ang speed and power ni Pacman no doubt about that. But ung toughness seems to be lacking which is evident in the 1st knockdown. Pacman will never be the same again after that KO loss. Seems like the cloak of invisibility (so to speak) of Pacman is gone.
    I suspect he skimp on his strength and conditioning, not withstanding the obvious that JMM found Thor's hammer and put it on his right hand. Hehehehe

    Wag na kasing gawing part-time ni Pacman ang Boxing, dyan nag umpisa ang problema eh.

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    Pointless na ang Mayweather bout with Pacman. Kaya lang naman gusto ipaglaban yung dalawa kasi nga malaki kikitain kasi supposedly marami manonood dahil sila supposedly ang best of the best. Sa nangyari ngayon hindi na best of the best si Manny. After that Hattonesque KO, iba na yan si Manny kung sakaling gusto pa niya mag boxing. Marami na ring hindi magbabayad para sa laban na yan dahil ang perception magiging punching bag lang si Manny ni Mayweather.

    Wala na tayong aabangang pinoy boxer taon taon na exciting panoorin. Donaire is good but is not up there when it comes to excitement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Pointless na ang Mayweather bout with Pacman. Kaya lang naman gusto ipaglaban yung dalawa kasi nga malaki kikitain kasi supposedly marami manonood dahil sila supposedly ang best of the best. Sa nangyari ngayon hindi na best of the best si Manny. After that Hattonesque KO, iba na yan si Manny kung sakaling gusto pa niya mag boxing. Marami na ring hindi magbabayad para sa laban na yan dahil ang perception magiging punching bag lang si Manny ni Mayweather.

    Wala na tayong aabangang pinoy boxer taon taon na exciting panoorin. Donaire is good but is not up there when it comes to excitement.
    Sir excited padin ako hanggang round 6, actually naka tayo nako sa upuan dahil kinakain na ni manny si marquez nun.

    Mas malupit nga lang talaga yung counter ni marquez kaya natapos agad ang laban. Pero kung di nangyari yun, malamang may chance pa si manny.

    Besides, yung sa round 3 na bagsak ni manny, sobrang lakas talaga ng suntok ni JMM nun, dumaplis na sa gloves ni manny pero ang lakas padin.

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    Need nya pang lumaban wala ng pera yang si Manny yung asawa nya maraming pera. Di kasi marunong humawak ng pera yang si Manny uto uto pa.

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    Hindi bumangon si manny...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Hindi bumangon si manny...
    He got KO'd that's what happened. But you can't take away the fact that Pacman was controlling the fight and setting the pace until that hay-maker.

    Marquez KO'd Pacman would be the proper way to put it. Dominated Pacman? It was a 6 round fight.

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    Sa totoo lang after the kd..nabarag ni manny si jmm..deep inside every pinoy was already dreaming of a fairytale come from behind pummeling of jmm and winning it all until that shot..yun ang maskit dun

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Sa totoo lang after the kd..nabarag ni manny si jmm..deep inside every pinoy was already dreaming of a fairytale come from behind pummeling of jmm and winning it all until that shot..yun ang maskit dun
    Mahina lang talaga utak ni Pacman.

    Nakalimutan nya kung sino ang strength and conditioning coach ni Marquez. And the fact that Marquez despite his age and at a very short period managed to bulk-up and developed hay-maker on his right hand.

    And them people are still accusing Pacman of PED's. :hysterical:

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