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View Poll Results: Do you support the Reproductive Health Bill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    Simbang gabi.
    Si father, "no to RH Bill" ang topic.....


    Umuwi na lang kami.
    Next time, tutulog na lang ako.
    Sabi ko kay misis ko nung napa daan kami sa catholic church sa lugar namin... "Hon pusta ko ang isang itlog ko, babanat yang pari ng anti-RH sa simbang gabi."

    Good to know na safe ang isang itlog ko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    Simbang gabi.
    Si father, "no to RH Bill" ang topic.....


    Umuwi na lang kami.
    Next time, tutulog na lang ako.
    Dalawang sunod na gabi na puro rh bill inaatupag pag homily...hay kainis.

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    Today is the day...but look what the Damasos and their minions are planning.

    Carlos Celdran*FB
    Getting news about how low the #AntiRH is going to derail #RHBill. Physically blocking representatives from going to the vote is their move today, along with constant harrassment of the Congressmen. So sad.

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    Next the Damasos will say that the Conneticut shootings is the maker's way of punishing mankind for the Philippine's passing of the RH bill....

    Bishop compares President Aquino to Connecticut shooter because of the Reproductive Health bill
    Published: Dec 17, 2012 - 8:29am

    For one Roman Catholic bishop, President Benigno Aquino III is like Adam Lanza, a gunman who opened fire on children and adults at an elementary school in Connecticut over the weekend, if not worse.

    According to a report by Evelyn Macairan of the Philippine Star, "Batangas Archbishop Ramon Arguelles yesterday said that while a 20-year-old gunman killed 20 children in the US, President Aquino would be killing millions of children with a stroke of a pen if he signs the RH bill into law."

    "Our President intends to kill 20 million children with a fountain pen…to sign the RH bill into law," Arguelles said.

    The Catholic Church is opposed to passage of the bill, which will make reproductive health services and contraceptives available to poor Filipinos. Critics of the proposed law have said passage of the bill will legalize abortion and will lead to promiscuity.

    After Typhoon Pablo hit the southern Philippines, another Church leader, Manila Auxiliary Bishop Broderick Pabillo said the typhoon that left more than a thousand dead, could be a message from God about the RH bill.

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    3rd reading and final voting na. Ano na latest ngayon sa congreso?

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    News about Anti-RH people physically blocking the entrance to the House so that Pro-RH reps and supporters won't be able to get in.

    How they've sunk so low.

    Oh, and forcibly preventing people from attending a national assembly is a crime if I'm not mistaken...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronki View Post
    Dalawang sunod na gabi na puro rh bill inaatupag pag homily...hay kainis.
    Hay... if I were there, I would have walked out (via the center aisle) of the church to express my opinion of the homily.

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    Nakalusot sa 2nd reading sa Senate! Miraglo nag pro-RH sa Recto, who happens to be LP...hmmm.

    http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story...es-of-congress

    (Updated 6:31 p.m.) Voting 13-8, the Senate on Monday finally passed on second reading the controversial Reproductive Health (RH) bill.

    After approving a vote on the third and final reading, senators are currently delivering speeches justifying their votes. With the House approval of its version of the legislation last week, the RH bill appears headed for passage into law, hastened by President Aquino's push of the bill as "urgent."

    Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile, Senate President Pro Tempore Jinggoy Estrada, Senators Aquilino "Koko" Pimentel III, Antonio Trillanes IV, Manuel Villar, Bong Revilla, Vicente Sotto III, and Gregorio Honasan voted against the passage of the bill.

    On the other hand, Senators Edgardo Angara, Joker Arroyo, Pia Cayetano, Alan Peter Cayetano, Miriam Defensor-Santiago, Franklin Drilon, Francis Escudero, Teofisto Guingona III, Panfilo Lacson, Loren Loren, Ferdinand Marcos Jr., Francis Pangilinan, and Ralph Recto voted for the measure.

    Senator Pia Cayetano, co-sponsor of Senate Bill No.2865 or The Reproductive Health Act, first sponsored the measure on June 7, 2011.

    But it only hurdled the period of interpellation almost a year after last June.

    Since then, several senators have moved to introduce amendments to the bill during the period of committee and individual amendments.

    Included in the major amendments are:
    • the removal of the mandate on local government units (LGU) to provide healthcare services to their constituents; and
    • the requirement of parental consent from minors who wish to gain access to RH services, including contraceptives, from public health facilities.


    — Kimberly Jane Tan/RSJ/HS, GMA News.

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    #9
    79 na lang ang bumoto ng NO sa house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Nakalusot sa 2nd reading sa Senate! Miraglo nag pro-RH sa Recto, who happens to be LP...hmmm.

    RH bill headed for approval in both houses of Congress | News | GMA News Online | The Go-To Site for Filipinos Everywhere
    Hearing his speech, kinda obvious he was about to vote yes.

    But he really cut a lot out of the bill in Amendments. Some of those, I don't agree with... LGUs should not be able to decide their own implementations, though they should not be forced to do it without budget... but some, like the penalties for employers and private hospitals... hell yes. Hindi dapat i-force ng government ang gusto niya sa mga hospitals.

    Look at it another way... if the bill were the other way around... would you force a hospital to NOT dispense condoms?

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #11
    ^Nakakabadtrip yan.

    Nawala na tunay na purpose ng Simbang Gabi.

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    #12
    Instead of asking donations and help for the victims of typhoon Pablo or praying for the children in Conneticut shooting,..

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    Ano daw? Civil disobedience? Nasan? Nasan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_cube View Post
    Ano daw? Civil disobedience? Nasan? Nasan?

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    Mamayang simbang gabi daw, babanat sila sa homily.

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    #15
    Civil Disobedience my *ss.

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    very good speeches by Miriam and Joker...




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    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/326013/...passes-rh-bill
    Senators Miriam Defensor-Santiago and Pia Cayetano embraced each other as they stood in the middle of the session hall, while Senate President Pro Tempore Jose “Jinggoy” Estrada announced Monday night the 13-8 vote approving the reproductive health (RH) bill.
    It was a long-delayed triumph for both women who gained enemies for their defense of what they believed was a measure that would give a woman the choice to determine the number of her children, meet a teener’s need to be protected from an unplanned pregnancy and educate citizens about ***ual health.
    “There is no force more powerful than an idea whose time has come and that idea today is the RH bill,” Santiago said. Before the voting, the bill had languished in Congress for 13 years.
    A quarter before 8 last night, senators approved Senate Bill No. 2865 on third and final reading, less than an hour after they did the same on second reading.
    The vote in the Senate paves the way for the measure to become law after the House of Representatives also approved on third reading last night the bill that President Aquino had certified as urgent.
    ‘No miracle’
    The “miracle” that anti-RH groups were waiting for did not materialize, as the House voted 133-79-7 to pass House Bill No. 4244 on final reading, increasing the winning margin to 54. In the second reading on Thursday, the chamber voted 113-104-3.
    The two chambers will have to reconcile their versions of the bill in a bicameral conference committee so Mr. Aquino can sign the measure into law.
    Senate leaders have yet to name their representatives to the bicameral conference that Santiago wants to convene Tuesday.
    Malacaņang hailed both houses of Congress for their “historic vote” and crafting a law “that can truly address the needs of our people.”
    “The people now have the government on their side as they raise their families in a manner that is just and empowered,” presidential spokesperson Edwin Lacierda said. “It begins a process of healing for the wounds that may have been opened by an often feisty democracy.”
    Albay Rep. Edcel Lagman, sponsor of the House bill, was optimistic that the bicameral committee would face no serious roadblock in reconciling contrasting provisions with the Senate version. He said the committee could meet Tuesday and have the final version ready for ratification by Wednesday.
    “Before the end of the year, it will become a law as long as we can harmonize the differing provisions in the bicameral conference committee,” Lagman told reporters.
    “Considering that these two bills are mutually identical from the start and the differences were in the period of amendments, I don’t think the differences are insurmountable. We could fast-track the forging of a bicam report, I think, within a day.”
    In the Senate, those who voted with the two sponsors in favor of the highly contentious RH bill were Senate Minority Leader Alan Peter Cayetano, Senators Edgardo Angara, Joker Arroyo, Franklin Drilon, Francis Escudero, Teofisto Guingona III, Panfilo Lacson, Loren Legarda, Ferdinand Marcos Jr., Francis Pangilinan and Ralph Recto.
    Those against were Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile, Estrada, Majority Leader Vicente Sotto, Senators Gregorio Honasan, Aquilino Pimentel III, Antonio Trillanes IV and Manuel Villar.
    Senators Manuel “Lito” Lapid and Sergio Osmeņa III were not in the session hall during the vote.
    For poor women
    “I will not gloat. In fact, my work has just begun. … This is for every woman wallowing in poverty, for those who don’t even know they have the right not to be beaten up by their partners,” Cayetano said after the head count to emphasize the continuing struggle for women’s rights.
    Cayetano failed to fight tears as she thanked all those who supported her efforts for the past 17 months in having the measure approved.
    Santiago, in turn, cited Nicolaus Copernicus who contradicted Catholic teaching at a time when the Church insisted that the sun revolved around the Earth.
    “The Catholic Church has made many mistakes because it is a human institution,” she said. Santiago’s statement appeared to be indirectly addressed to religious groups against the RH bill.
    Fear of a Catholic backlash appeared to be one of the biggest reasons Congress’ decision to pass the RH bill that had been derailed since it was first introduced in 1995.
    Sotto and Enrile, the most rabid among anti-RH senators, have openly sided with the Church hierarchy in shooting down the measure.
    Other senators stood up after the head count to explain their vote.
    Angara cited the rising number of teenage pregnancies as an imperative for his “yes” vote.
    Arroyo warned he would change his “yes” vote should drastic alterations be made in the Senate version during the bicameral conference.
    Minority Leader Cayetano said the RH bill’s approval was not tantamount to a promotion of promiscuity. “We should fight misconceptions if we want to help our people,” he said.
    Estrada lamented the wedge driven between the Church and RH supporters because of the measure.
    Escudero said he was against abortion, but supported the rights of women and children, especially the unborn.
    “I want to give all Filipinos equal opportunity, men and women, young or old, that’s why I favor the RH bill. I do not favor premarital ***. I am for the protection of the rights of women and children,” he said.
    Sotto, ‘satisfying’ ***
    Before the vote, Sotto’s proposal to delete the word “satisfying” in the definition of reproductive health was met with vehement objection from the Senate’s three women members. This forced him to withdraw this amendment.
    Sotto initially explained that the word “satisfying” ran counter to the “conservative” culture of Filipino women.
    The three women senators stood up one by one and blasted Sotto’s statement. Cayetano and Legarda said Filipino women had the right to have satisfying ***.
    Santiago went to the extent of vowing to file a bill that would penalize a husband “who does not give satisfying *** to his wife.”

    About dreams
    In explaining his vote, Guingona said the bill was “about our dreams and aspirations,” and the country’s future. Lacson lauded those who opposed the bill for allowing the majority rule to prevail.
    Honasan noted in his explanation that he was living in a highly matriarchal family.
    Legarda dedicated her “yes” vote to Filipino women, while Marcos noted the agony of young people when faced with “a situation they are ill-prepared for,” thus his promise to improve “the pathetic state of affairs” by voting for the RH bill.
    “What bothers me is a proposal wrapped in a condom argument,” Pimentel said. “I cannot accept the twisted rationale to legislate what is better left to the conscience of married couples,” he added.
    Recto appealed to sponsors to maintain fidelity to the version approved by the Senate during the bicameral conference.
    “I hope dead provisions would not be resurrected like zombies and newly birthed ideas not aborted in the third chamber,” he said, referring to the bicameral panel.
    Kuwidaw sa mga married na kelots,- kailangan ng mga married na bebots ng "satisfying ***"... :naughty2:

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    Last edited by CVT; December 18th, 2012 at 12:56 PM.

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    Baka naman kasi sila yun 3 artista, Puro sakit ng ulo binigay nila Sa Asawa nila while pregnant dahil Daming chicks na mga leading ladies kaya stress mga Asawa nila


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    it appears that the protagonists and antagonists have overlooked the fact that the term "...satisfying ***..." can actually be used by the husband against the wife.
    but i agree with the guy senator, that the court should be spared the unenviable duty of determining what satisfying means..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it appears that the protagonists and antagonists have overlooked the fact that the term "...satisfying ***..." can actually be used by the husband against the wife.
    but i agree with the guy senator, that the court should be spared the unenviable duty of determining what satisfying means..
    Yes. *** is a shared event. And both are entitled to have it.

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