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  1. Join Date
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    Recto naman ang nag take over kay Sotto ngayon.

    Buti na lang natalo ang isang amendment nya, otherwise yung mga 18-20 years old dito eh adolescent pa.

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    Recto naman ang nag take over kay Sotto ngayon.

    Buti na lang natalo ang isang amendment nya, otherwise yung mga 18-20 years old dito eh adolescent pa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    As it seem from recent news,... as low as the earth's core.
    Unless he finds a black hole to take him even deeper...

    Sotto:

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    Only God alone who chooses which 0.0000000001% of the 6,000,000,000,000,000 sperm born every day get to live on as humans or die forever alone. how dare we presume to remove another 0.000000000001% from that number? Who cares if some of them aren't even Catholic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Only God alone who chooses which 0.0000000001% of the 6,000,000,000,000,000 sperm born every day get to live on as humans or die forever alone. how dare we presume to remove another 0.000000000001% from that number? Who cares if some of them aren't even Catholic?
    Imagine the gazillion abortion we've done in our lifetime if we go by the logic of these moronic anti-RH Bill politicians and priest.

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    #5
    CoDer number 1 fan ka ba ng obism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    CoDer number 1 fan ka ba ng obism?
    Nope at ayaw ko ng iPhone at iPad no. Mahal!

    OT na tayo.

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    #7
    Revelation to ah

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    di ko alam kung 'tong si Tito Escalera nagpapatawa or gigagawa nyang katawatawa sarili nya sa publiko...gusto mag grandstanding kaya lumakas loob mag speech sa senate...galing pala sa blogger ang speech nya at di ma lang nya binigyan credit yung blogger...

    from: Sotto's anti-RH speech copied from US blogger who writes about recipes

    Sotto's anti-RH speech copied from US blogger who writes about recipes

    August 15, 2012 11:07pm

    Sen. Tito Sotto's emotional story on the Senate floor last Monday about the death of his son may have come from his heart, but at least one lengthy passage from his speech came from someone else's blog.

    Sotto's description of the purported ill effects of birth control pills on unborn children was lifted nearly word for word from the blog of "Sarah, the healthy home economist," a US-based writer who also opposes vaccines for children and offers recipes for goodies like grain-free pumpkin cookies.

    Sotto did not attribute any of his words or research to "Sarah, the healthy home economist," whose disclaimer cautions that "the nutritional and other information on this website are not intended to be and do not constitute health care or medical advice."

    The plagiarism was first exposed by Alfredo Melgar on the blog Filipino freethinkers.

    Here is a comparison of Sotto’s speech and Sarah’s blog:

    1. Sotto’s speech (from second to last paragraph):

    “According, to Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride MD, the use of the pill also causes severe gut dysbiosis. What is worse, drug induced gut imbalance is especially intractable and resistant to treatment either with probiotics or diet change.”

    Sarah’s blog:

    “According, to Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride MD, use of other drugs such as the Pill also cause severe gut dybiosis. What’s worse, drug induced gut imbalance is especially intractable and resistant to treatment either with probiotics or diet change.”

    2. Sotto’s speech:

    “Gut imbalance brought on through use of the pill negatively impacts the ability to digest food and absorb nutrients. As a result, even if a woman eats spectacularly well during pregnancy, if she has been taking oral contraceptives for a period of time beforehand, it is highly likely that she and her baby are not reaping the full benefits of all this healthy food as the lack of beneficial flora in her gut preclude this from occurring.”

    Sarah’s blog:

    “Gut imbalance brought on through use of The Pill negatively impacts the ability to digest food and absorb nutrients. As a result, even if a women eats spectacularly well during pregnancy, if she has been taking oral contraceptives for a period of time beforehand, it is highly likely that she and her baby are not reaping the full benefits of all this healthy food as the lack of beneficial flora in her gut preclude this from occurring.”

    3. Sotto’s speech:

    “Pathogenic, opportunistic flora that take hold in the gut when the pill is used constantly produce toxic substances which are the by-products of their metabolism. These toxins leak into the woman’s bloodstream and they have the potential to cross the placenta. Therefore, gut dysbiosis exposes the fetus to toxin.”

    Sarah’s blog:

    “Pathogenic, opportunistic flora that take hold in the gut when The Pill is used constantly produce toxic substances which are the by-products of their metabolism. These toxins leak into the woman’s bloodstream and guess what, they have the potential to cross the placenta! Therefore, gut dysbiosis exposes the fetus to toxins.”

    4. Sotto’s speech:

    “Not well known is also the fact that use of the pill depletes zinc in the body. Zinc is called 'the intelligence mineral' as it is intimately involved in mental development.”

    Sarah’s blog:

    “Not well known is the fact that use of The Pill depletes zinc in the body. Zinc is called 'the intelligence mineral' as it is intimately involved in mental development.”
    Last edited by explorer; August 16th, 2012 at 05:30 AM.

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    Tangna ang maskit dito..yung kinopyahan bumwelta pa..pumanig pa sa kabila...doble alat

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    E, b*p*ls naman iyan,- Mas b*p*ls ang mga bumoto riyan.

    Iyon namang Iskul Bukol,- totoong buhay niya iyan,- Escalera Brothers,- nangongopya... Iyon na nga... :hysterical:

    Si Tonette Macho na lang ang iboto ninyo.... Puwede ring si Mang Tim-I....

    16.7K:sampay::weathermanf2:

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    taena, sino pa kasi bumoboto sa mga actors-turned-politicians eh. anakngtinapa talaga mga masses. i also dont believe how many people voted for binay OMFG. the people deserve getting screwed with who they voted into office.

    taenang skul bukol dinala pa hanggang senado.

    </short-rant>

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    Sotto magpakamatay ka na.
    Yayain mo si carabuena.

    Si pepsi paloma, kinakawayan ka na.......
    Kakahiya ka!

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    Gawin na kasi ng mabuti ang trabaho na pagiging senador.

    Hindi yung pa-host host pa ng noontime show.

    Same statement applies to those who go on leave to shoot a movie for some filmfest or to train for a boxing match.

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    Kung ako kay sotto di na ko lalabas sa Eat Bulaga na......sa kahihiyan. :suka:

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    Kung ako kay sotto di na ko lalabas sa Eat Bulaga na......sa kahihiyan. :suka:
    wala sya nun

    mayabang pa nga nung interview nya sa anc

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    It is now OK to copy someone's blog word for word. Anything posted in the net is meant to be shared... Dapat ata may COPYRIGHTS ALL RIGHTS RESERVED dito sa tsikot.

    When you give/read a speech, whatever contents is in it becomes your responsibility. It's your speech, not your "ghost writers". Kasalanan mo na iyan kung di ka nag-proof read. Buti pa si MVP inamin agad at nag-public apology. Etong Attorney Ungok, sige ng depensa.

    Sotto aide takes blame but denies plagiarism, says blogs meant to be shared
    By PATRICIA DENISE CHIU, GMA NEWS August 17, 2012 2:22pm


    The chief of staff of Sen. Tito Sotto has come out in the open to take the blame for the alleged plagiarism the senator committed in his speech last Monday against the pending Reproductive Health bill.

    While Atty. Hector A. Villacorta admitted to copying from a US-based blog, he told GMA News Online on Friday that what he and his staff did was not plagiarism.

    “You have a blog, it is meant to be shared, it’s in the public domain, so it’s not plagiarism,” he said.

    Sotto delivered the speech on the Senate floor Monday in which he described the harmful effects of contraceptives on unborn babies, using the death of his own infant son 37 years ago as his example.

    Alfredo Melgar, a Filipino blogger, pointed out that a lengthy passage from Sotto's speech was lifted nearly word for word from the blog of "Sarah, the healthy home economist," written by an American health advocate, Sarah Pope, who also opposes vaccines for children and offers recipes for grain-free pumpkin cookies and other organic goodies.

    Sotto earlier denied to the media that he copied from the blogger and said that he was quoting from a book by a Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride.

    Sarah Pope insisted in a blog post that the words Sotto used were hers and not McBride's, calling the senator a "lying thief."

    Sotto's chief of staff Villacorta wrote to Pope publicly, admitting their "single trespass."

    Commenting under the account name “lezel,” Villacorta told Pope: “(W)hat have we done to deserve your incriminating words? The senator did not lift it himself, we did.”

    In a phone interview, Villacorta explained to GMA News Online, “I asked my staff who was commenting as ‘lezel’ to open her account. I said you’ve been talking to Sarah, and she’s angry. So I typed out a few things to comment to her,” explained.

    Villacorta defended his and his staff’s actions, saying that there is no law covering blogs, and therefore copying from them isn’t considered plagiarism.

    “There is no jurisprudence, there is no privacy law, even if she wants to press charges. I already talked to a lawyer from New York. Even in the US, there is no legislation,” Villacorta said.

    On Wednesday, Sotto gave another speech attacking the RH bill. Various bloggers and media agencies have since pointed out several more instances where lengthy unattributed passages from the speech were also found in previously published blogs.

    When asked about these new findings, Villacorta said he wasn't aware of the fresh allegations of plagiarism, but said that he wasn't going to comment unless the bloggers who were purportedly copied from complain, like what Sarah Pope did.

    "Hindi naman copyrighted ang blogs kasi," he explained, adding that he was tasked by the senator to speak about the issue on his behalf. "If they can show that it's verbatim, and they're the source [that's when it might be plagiarism]. Pero hindi copyrighted, so there's no infringement."

    When asked if all Internet-published content can be copied without permission, he replied, "Yes, the Internet is a free range of ideas for the world to see. It's in the free atmosphere."

    However, he reiterated that the absence of legislation makes Internet copyright a grey area.

    Villacorta reiterated Sotto’s earlier claims that the passages lifted almost verbatim from Pope's blog are actually based on older, published research by Dr. Campbell-McBride. “Technically you don’t have to ask her (Pope) personally,” Villacorta said.

    “We over-attribute, if anything,” Villacorta said, explaining that in Sotto’s speeches, his staff always puts a blanket attribution at the beginning of the speech.

    Sotto himself told the media on Thursday: "I always say a blanket disclosure, these are not from me, anong plagiarism dun?"

    When asked if any attribution should ever be given to blogs, Villacorta had this to say: “The best way is to say you got it from a blog.”

    But when reminded that the senator didn’t attribute to any blogs, Villacorta acknowledged, “The researcher admitted that there was an oversight, that she copied but did not attribute."

    Sotto chief of staff also held fast to his claim that his and his staff's actions are not those of their boss, Senator Sotto. He characterized his and his staff's actions as an "oversight." –YA, GMA News

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    sikat na si Tito Escalera sa America pag iskul bukol nya sa senate about RH bill...

    from: abc News

    US Blogger Accuses Filipino Senator of Plagiarism

    By By OLIVER TEVES Associated Press
    MANILA, Philippines August 17, 2012 (AP)

    An American woman has accused a Filipino senator of plagiarizing her blog during an acrimonious debate on a contraceptives bill that has divided this predominantly Roman Catholic nation.

    Sen. Vicente Sotto III denied using part of Sarah Pope's blog when he argued against the bill to distribute contraceptives in government-run health clinics. But the senator's chief of staff, Hector Villacorta, later acknowledged that they had used her blog without attribution.

    Soon after Sotto's speech, Pope, who lives in Florida, started receiving messages from the Philippines about it and soon her blog was swamped with reactions and comments. She made a blog posting Thursday criticizing the senator as "a lying thief."

    On Thursday, Sotto told ABS-CBN television that both of them cite the same source, Russian-born Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride, who claims that contraceptives cause an imbalance between good and bad bacteria in the intestines that breaks down defense against infection.

    "Why would I quote from a blogger? She is just a blogger," Sotto said.

    Villacorta said he saw nothing wrong with using Pope's blog without attribution because it "is public domain" and "blogs are not covered by copyright."

    "It is a new media and there is no jurisprudence yet," he said.

    The contraceptives bill is still being debated in the Senate and facing amendments in the House of Representatives. It is unclear when a final version will be put to a vote.

    Conservatives and the Catholic Church oppose the bill, saying contraception is the same as abortion, which is illegal in the Philippines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    It is now OK to copy someone's blog word for word. Anything posted in the net is meant to be shared... Dapat ata may COPYRIGHTS ALL RIGHTS RESERVED dito sa tsikot.

    When you give/read a speech, whatever contents is in it becomes your responsibility. It's your speech, not your "ghost writers". Kasalanan mo na iyan kung di ka nag-proof read. Buti pa si MVP inamin agad at nag-public apology. Etong Attorney Ungok, sige ng depensa.
    What a lawyer. You don't need to copyright written work to protect from plagiarism. Plagiarism applies to any printed or published work, irregardless of copyright, which is why thesis papers are protected.

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    The contrceptive "DIANE" mentioned by Lying Sotto in his crying speech was released to the market in 1978.

    But his son died in 1975.

    Paano nangyari yan?

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    mag apologize kaya?
    dapat yung may paiyak effect din. . . . . :sad:

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