Pope: Stephen Hawking is wrong

[uls]

and if you wanna go further, try imagining 10 dimensions

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA"]YouTube - Imagining the Tenth Dimension part 1 of 2[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBaYMESb8o"]YouTube - Imagining the Tenth Dimension part 2 of 2[/ame]

[safeorigin]

well... multidimentional space-time exists... at least subatomically...

and with the case of worm holes

[Quint]

in ancient human societies, morals evolved

man is a social animal

in order to be accepted in a tribe or community, one has to behave according to expectations and rules set by the society

killing another human brought negative consequences (like severe punishment, death)

man decided killing another human wasnt in his best interest

(but that still didnt stop people from killing other people)



coz during the evolution of the solar system, objects that were too near to the sun crashed into the sun, and objects that were too far from the sun escaped the sun's gravity

so whatever is orbiting the sun right now is the result of things ending up in its place after all that chaos

the solar system hasnt always been the way it is now

BTW, objects still collide

asteroids and comets still crash into planets all the time

remember Shoemaker Levy 9?

how about the asteroid crash that caused mass extinction on earth millions of years ago



coz thru natural selection, that's the only sucessful reproductive process to emerge. all other processes failed

evolution is trial and error

products of errors do not survive long enough to have descendants

all species existing right now withstood the natural selection process



we are the result of billions of yrs of evolution

from single celled organisms to homo sapien

human bodies have to be complicated

billions of years of trial and error has to result in something complicated

it would be a wonder if human bodies are simple

You would certainly believe that the generalities that you stated here cannot hold water. If humans were a mere evolution, would the next model be without a brain, without a soul, with a bigger head, or with shorter limbs, etc? We can only imagine. But the FACT remains that humans (physically) have not changed for as long as it existed. Prove to us that there is a growing scientific trend that there are physical changes happening in humans aside from the silicone mammaries or the artifical reproductive appendages that bi-***ual homo sapiens hold oh so dearly.

From a single cell to a homo sapien? Randomly? If it science, someone should be able to prove it in order to validate the theory, right? Isn't that what science is all about? Empirical study? Has anyone proven how man came from a single cell to become a homo sapien? Not even the likes of Darwin proved that.

The complexity of DNA and RNA alone will drive one person nuts, and people think its all random? Its physical, its chemical, and then when man comes to life, there's the psychological, and the spiritual. Are those things coming from randomness too?

If man was just randomly made, what is his purpose then? Was he merely made to eat, drink, be merry, and multiply? Surely, there are more noble things, a higher calling, or a higher purpose than just making money, eating, drinking, ***, etc. Who designed him to eat, drink, or multiply? Who taught him instinct?

Someone once said that the heavens are all about logic, the animals are about passion, but man is a combination of both because God made us in His own image. Man is the only being who ultimately has a choice. He has Free Will.

Now, did free will come out of randomness too? Did it come from a single cell? Who decided that man would have Free Will? Surely, that cannot be designed out of cells, can it?

Going back to social mores, I don't think that its just a simple evolution. If you really read back on history, the ones who progressed the most (and the countries you have held high) were the ones who decided that there should be law and order, not merely out of fear, but out of love. More than just social repercussions, there is an instinctive mechanism, a conscience if you will, that tells man that it is wrong to take another life.

If you go beyond fear, and move towards putting others first, then the result is astonishingly great--- courtesy, humility, perseverance, love, joy, peace, kindness, gentleness, self-control, etc.

Is this random? Was this by accident?

I think that you'll agree with me that if its too complexed to explain, then I think it is fair to assess that the theory being postulated is suspicious at best, right? I'm sure that with your financial expertise, you would agree with me that a man who cannot explain in simple terms the financial instruments he or she is trying to sell you, is doubtful at least, or a con man at best, right?

What is about the simplicity of God's message that makes it hard to believe?

Why not try God again, and discover the a world beyond randomness and accidents. You have a choice. Take it as a challenge, or take it as something that will improve your knowledge of Him before you decide once and for all (and for all eternity), that He is non-existent.

I wish you that you find the truth in your journey...God bless!

[oliver1013]

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[uls]

You would certainly believe that the generalities that you stated here cannot hold water. If humans were a mere evolution, would the next model be without a brain, without a soul, with a bigger head, or with shorter limbs, etc? We can only imagine. But the FACT remains that humans (physically) have not changed for as long as it existed. Prove to us that there is a growing scientific trend that there are physical changes happening in humans aside from the silicone mammaries or the artifical reproductive appendages that bi-***ual homo sapiens hold oh so dearly.

example of natural selection at work

man had no need to digest lactose in adulthood so the gene for lactase was switched off

but man started to domesticate animals less than 10,000 yrs ago

so man began drinking animal milk even in adulthood

humans with a genetic mutation that kept the lactase gene switched on even in adulthood became a favored trait (those who had that trait became healthier and stronger coz they had better nutrition. Good health and strength gave them higher reproductive success)

the trait was passed down to us. so we grown-ups can drink cow's milk

Study Detects Recent Instance of Human Evolution
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/sc...olve.html?_r=1

A surprisingly recent instance of human evolution has been detected among the peoples of East Africa. It is the ability to digest milk in adulthood, conferred by genetic changes that occurred as recently as 3,000 years ago, a team of geneticists has found.

The finding is a striking example of a cultural practice — the raising of dairy cattle — feeding back into the human genome. It also seems to be one of the first instances of convergent human evolution to be documented at the genetic level. Convergent evolution refers to two or more populations acquiring the same trait independently.

Throughout most of human history, the ability to digest lactose, the principal sugar of milk, has been switched off after weaning because there is no further need for the lactase enzyme that breaks the sugar apart. But when cattle were first domesticated 9,000 years ago and people later started to consume their milk as well as their meat, natural selection would have favored anyone with a mutation that kept the lactase gene switched on.

humans have always been hunter-gatherers

then humans began planting food and domesticating animals a few thousand years ago

human diet changed and it's causing genetic changes and diseases

(example: humans didnt evolve to consume large amounts of refined carbs multiple times daily. So modern humans developed type 2 diabetes)

Study finds humans are still evolving -- and quickly
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/dec...ci-evolution11

The pace of human evolution has been increasing at a stunning rate since our ancestors began spreading through Europe, Asia and Africa 40,000 years ago, quickening to 100 times historical levels after agriculture became widespread, according to a study published today.

By examining more than 3 million variants of DNA in 269 people, researchers identified about 1,800 genes that have been widely adopted in relatively recent times because they offer some evolutionary benefit.

Until recently, anthropologists believed that evolutionary pressure on humans eased after the transition to a more stable agrarian lifestyle. But in the last few years, they realized the opposite was true -- diseases swept through societies in which large groups lived in close quarters for a long time.

Altogether, the recent genetic changes account for 7% of the human genome, according to the study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The advantage of all but about 100 of the genes remains a mystery, said University of Wisconsin-Madison anthropologist John Hawks, who led the study. But the research team was able to conclude that infectious diseases and the introduction of new foods were the primary reasons that some genes swept through populations with such speed.

"If there were not a mismatch between the population and the environment, there wouldn't be any selection," Hawks said. "Dietary changes, disease changes -- those create circumstances where selection can happen."

One of the most famous examples is the spread of a gene that allows adults to digest milk.

Though children were able to drink milk, they typically developed lactose intolerance as they grew up. But after cattle and goats were domesticated in Europe and yaks and mares were domesticated in Asia, adults with a mutation that allowed them to digest milk had a nutritional advantage over those without.

As a result, they were more likely to have healthy offspring, prompting the mutation to spread, Hawks said.

The mechanism also explains why genetic resistance to malaria has spread among Africans -- who live where disease-carrying mosquitoes are prevalent -- but not among Europeans or Asians.

to be continued in another post

[uls]

From a single cell to a homo sapien? Randomly? If it science, someone should be able to prove it in order to validate the theory, right? Isn't that what science is all about? Empirical study? Has anyone proven how man came from a single cell to become a homo sapien? Not even the likes of Darwin proved that.

The complexity of DNA and RNA alone will drive one person nuts, and people think its all random? Its physical, its chemical, and then when man comes to life, there's the psychological, and the spiritual. Are those things coming from randomness too?

billions of years ago, earth was lifeless

chemicals in the oceans, gases and chemicals in the air, volcanic eruptions, rains

rains washed chemicals from the air and land into the sea

billions of chemical reactions took place in the oceans

billions of chemical reactions for billions of years

the right combination of chemicals and the right conditions came together

something was produced -- a tiny string of pre-cellular deoxyribonucleic acid

this explanation of the origin of life makes more sense to me than the creation stories of various religions

[uls]

If man was just randomly made, what is his purpose then? Was he merely made to eat, drink, be merry, and multiply? Surely, there are more noble things, a higher calling, or a higher purpose than just making money, eating, drinking, ***, etc. Who designed him to eat, drink, or multiply? Who taught him instinct?

religion taught us that we are special in relation to the universe

why did God create the moon and stars?

to give Man light to see at night

why did God create plants and animals?

to give Man food

everything in the world, the universe was created for Man

it’s all about Man

centuries of religious indoctrination taught us that Man is special

so Man, being so special, must have a purpose

Man simply cannot comprehend that his existence has no special purpose, no special significance, no special importance

the purpose of Homo Sapien as a species is no different than the purpose other living organisms on this planet

Homo Sapien's purpose is to perpetuate the species... like any living carbon-based lifeform on earth

[jimnyeatworld]

billions of years ago, earth was lifeless

chemicals in the oceans, gases and chemicals in the air, volcanic eruptions, rains

rains washed chemicals from the air and land into the sea

billions of chemical reactions took place in the oceans

billions of chemical reactions for billions of years

the right combination of chemicals and the right conditions came together

something was produced -- a tiny string of pre-cellular deoxyribonucleic acid

this explanation of the origin of life makes more sense to me than the creation stories of various religions

if indeed Man is evolving as science says it to be, bakit ang mga blacks kahits sa lupalop ng mundo mapunta mapa-US mapa- Europe, maitim pa din? diba dapat pumuputi na sila kasi sa Africa lang mainit

[jimnyeatworld]

coz during the evolution of the solar system, objects that were too near to the sun crashed into the sun, and objects that were too far from the sun escaped the sun's gravity

so whatever is orbiting the sun right now is the result of things ending up in its place after all that chaos

the solar system hasnt always been the way it is now

BTW, objects still collide

asteroids and comets still crash into planets all the time

remember Shoemaker Levy 9?

how about the asteroid crash that caused mass extinction on earth millions of years ago

protected tayo *uls. take note mo yun pyramids of Egypt, they are built
kung san meron strongest mass ang lupa ng mundo.

they also say that when fighter planes fly directly above the tip of the pyramids, masisira ang instrumentation ng jet


so what's the theory giza pyramids? it's the same as the Las Vegas Mirage, it emits light to and fro outer space.

the only diff with giza pyramids is the we cannot see the kind of light that is emitting. in fact, it's still undetectable sa technology natin ngaun.

may theory dito that that light is directly controlled by God. if an asteroid is predicted to hit us say December 21, 2012. yun other end of the invisible light will be recalibrated by just a simple mm or inch adjustment, so that by 2012, the asteroid will just have a near miss.

so think of the pyramids as our God's own wiring harness to protect us from collisions.

[jimnyeatworld]

if we and our solar system are created specifically by God, how come there are other solar systems? ano yun rough draft?

Why create all those other galaxies and within it, other solar systems? When there is no reason to create them. And if, life is found on these extrasolar planets? are they also created by God?

bec. the universe is a life on its own.

when solar systems/galaxies are created para din nanganak na nanay yan, hence new life.

that alone explains why we should not cling on to science kasi science always wants to prove the finiteness of things. yun ang sagot, yun na yun ganyan ang science. but it's not, everything is infinity, there are no boundaries.

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if intelligent life is found on another planet, i'm sure they'll ask us the same question when we have a chance to visit them. who created us?

if indeed the reports of UFO's, close encounters of 1st to 4th kind are true, then these beings are here only for one reason: they're SEEKING ANSWERS too, from the same questions we have. kasi if they know the answer, they won't even bother.

now if ang case naman that we humans are insignificant to the universe, then why they hell visit/experiment on us in the first place. it's a waste of time lalo na kung mas advanced ang technology nila.

so even with the aliens, we are important, even though we're primitive compared to them.

so hindi ba mas lalo ka dapat mag-embrace ng religion bec. of this.

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kung tuusin baka nga yun promised land na sinsabi sa bible eh hindi Israel eh, baka Earth yun. malay mo yun Bible, Universal bible pala, di lang limited sa earth.