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    i really don't know where all these arguments are coming from. pero forgive me for generalizing, but if you all think that Hitler is now in heaven, eh di sige. go!

    basta ako I maintain my belief that God did not forgive him, if we are to refer from the Ten commandments context.

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    now the narcissist in me tells me, that Hitler may have been a soldier of God. why? bec. His only ally in Europe was Italy. and inside Italy is Rome. and the whole of Italy listens to the Pope. Italy is predominantly Roman Catholic. Hitler allied with the descendants of the greatest empire in ancient history and the greatest empire in the east (Japan). (come to think of it, Hitler maybe right in thinking that these 3 axis powers were the superhuman race - kita mo ngaun, sino ba gumawa ng pinaka-reliable na tsikot diba't Germany, Italy (ferrari/lambhorgini), and Japan hehe)

    so is his Hitler's Nazi a modern crusades? pwede, bec. wiki may tell us why. The allies lost officially 50M people (civilians and military) (but historians estimate it's a generous figure, sabi nila it could be in the tune a 100M people perished from the allies), and the axis only lost 8M (that's including atom bombed Japan).

    in the Christian fundamentalist context, WWII may be considered an apocalyptic event - a cleansing event, a population purging event or whatever it's called. and what happened after WWII, a restart/reset for the human race, a period of peace and rediscovery and things that were taken for granted became important.

    I guess the question right now is, Is God capable of turning the blind eye, wishing us harm's way too by leaving our fate to chance? my answer is yes. why? bec. WWII happened. how come God did not intervene when a madman (hitler) was set loose on earth? bec. Hitler is just a by- product of man's uncontrollable sin and greed. Hitler is an idealist and a nationalist. His countrymen were equally idealistic, talented (which explains why Germans were technically superior) and noble. but they were getting poorer, because they cannot stomach the mass media that time. Motion Film and radio were fast rising that time but not too many people understood its true potential, and the ones who did enriched themselves (mostly the Europeans with Jewish ancestry) at a time of great depression.

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    kaya ngaun talaga, the internet is at infancy (like the Radio and Motion Film of the 1930's ), pero we are seeing kaagad a rise in atheism. kakatakot ang mga pangitain. the only way to avoid what is somehow lurking in hearts and fears is to turn him. pray that he intervenes this time asap and wag na tayo sana turuan pa ng leksyon.

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    #142
    So Hitler now is one of God's tools, let loose in bringing death and destruction to his creations because God saw mass media as a threat... can anyone top that in terms of divine conspiracy...?

    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
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    kaya ngaun talaga, the internet is at infancy (like the Radio and Motion Film of the 1930's ), pero we are seeing kaagad a rise in atheism. kakatakot ang mga pangitain. the only way to avoid what is somehow lurking in hearts and fears is to turn him. pray that he intervenes this time asap and wag na tayo sana turuan pa ng leksyon.
    So better access to information and discerment can make God go against his creations and let loose the apocalypse...nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    i really don't know where all these arguments are coming from. pero forgive me for generalizing, but if you all think that Hitler is now in heaven, eh di sige. go!

    basta ako I maintain my belief that God did not forgive him, if we are to refer from the Ten commandments context.
    you're the one who said Hitler asked for forgiveness at the last minute of his life. not us

    sabi mo kahit humingi ng forgiveness si Hitler God won't forgive him. ang sagot namin how the hell do you know how God thinks?

    re your reference to the 10 commandments... obviously wala ka masyado alam sa Bible other than Bible stories taught in grade school. di na tayo under the old testament. new testament na po tayo

    God sent Jesus to die... wash away the sins of the world...

    kailangan ko pa ba i-explain?

    Matthew 26:28

    NIV
    This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    KJV
    For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
    ISV
    because this is my blood of the new covenant that is being poured out for many people for the forgiveness of sins.



    who are you to judge who goes to heaven and who doesnt?
    Last edited by uls; May 3rd, 2012 at 08:57 AM.

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    #144
    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post

    kidding aside, i know what i wrote and i sounded like mas mabait ako sayo, kaya mas mahal ako ng diyos. wag mo muna gawin personal, think of what i wrote. If ang pakiramdam mo eh have it your way ka lagi kasi alam mo naman papatawarin ka in the end, do you think that's a bit odd.
    lmfao....!!!

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    #145
    Oh OB, you never fail to amuse me. :hysterical:

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    #146
    i know what i wrote and i sounded like mas mabait ako sayo, kaya mas mahal ako ng diyos.
    hahaha

    mas mahal ka ni God? yan ang example ng self righteous. masyado ka confident dude

    read this

    Luke 18:9-14

    9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’

    13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’

    14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”
    Last edited by uls; May 3rd, 2012 at 11:28 AM.

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    #147
    hirit ka pa OB

    dami butas pananaw mo

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    ..... I know what I wrote and I sounded like mas mabait ako sayo, kaya mas mahal ako ng diyos. wag mo muna gawin personal, think of what I wrote. if ang pakiramdam mo eh have it your way ka lagi kasi alam mo naman papatawarin ka in the end, do you think that's a bit odd.
    You are taking yourself as an equal to God's will ... that is practically saying you are God. Such is considered heresy and blasphemy in Catholic faith.

    Matthew 7:15 - Beware of the false teachers--men who come to you in sheep's fleeces, but beneath that disguise they are ravenous wolves.

    Jeremiah 23:16 - This is what the LORD Almighty says: "Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.

    Romans 16:17 - I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

    2 Peter 2:1 - But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.

    1 John 4:1 - Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

    Revelation 16:13 - Then I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

    Ironic that the one who claims to be a devote follower of the Catholic faith would be the one who is sinning against his own God.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; May 3rd, 2012 at 12:42 PM.

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    #149
    shucks sobrang dami load ako sa tarbaho dito kaya ko pa kyo masagot. pero bakit ganun? kayo ang mga atheists, pero kayo quote ng quote sa bible

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    shucks sobrang dami load ako sa tarbaho dito kaya ko pa kyo masagot. pero bakit ganun? kayo ang mga atheists, pero kayo quote ng quote sa bible
    eh ikaw walang alam sa Bible

    you're pathetic

    mas madami pa ako alam sa Bible kesa sayo

    and you're the only one here representing believers

    what a poor representative
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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    shucks sobrang dami load ako sa tarbaho dito kaya ko pa kyo masagot. pero bakit ganun? kayo ang mga atheists, pero kayo quote ng quote sa bible
    ah-ha-ha! o nga ano........:hysterical:

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    #152
    i quoted the Bible to point out OB's self righteous behavior

    for someone who claims to be a believer/christian he doesnt act like one

    kung binasa niya yung verses na pinost ko at binale wala niya... bale wala sa kanya ang salita ng Diyos niya

    well, BS lang yung pagiging believer niya
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    #153
    alam pala ni OB who goes to heaven and who goes to hell eh

    bilis... lumapit kayo sa kanya at alamin kung saan kayo pupunta after you die

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    #154
    See? Tsikot is alive again!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    ah-ha-ha! o nga ano........:hysterical:
    d'ba? parang mas holy pa nga sila sa'kin sa sobrang dami nila alam na verses. tapos nun sinabi ko na baka di patawarin ng diyos si ess at si Hitler sila pa nagalit kasi pinangunahan ko pa daw ang diyos. affected ..

    sabi ko na nga ba eh, yun atheist status nila ngaun d'pa period eh. okey lang yun, at least alam ko di pa kayo fully nakuha ng other side. kahit papano i can save two people here *uls and *ghost. para pag nakabalik ako sa Europe, napakasarap ng feeling ko

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    d'ba? parang mas holy pa nga sila sa'kin sa sobrang dami nila alam na verses. tapos nun sinabi ko na baka di patawarin ng diyos si ess at si Hitler sila pa nagalit kasi pinangunahan ko pa daw ang diyos. affected ..

    sabi ko na nga ba eh, yun atheist status nila ngaun d'pa period eh. okey lang yun, at least alam ko di pa kayo fully nakuha ng other side. kahit papano i can save two people here *uls and *ghost. para pag nakabalik ako sa Europe, napakasarap ng feeling ko
    :hysterical: Papano naman yung 8 cars mo ?! Kanino mo iiwan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    d'ba? parang mas holy pa nga sila sa'kin sa sobrang dami nila alam na verses. tapos nun sinabi ko na baka di patawarin ng diyos si ess at si Hitler sila pa nagalit kasi pinangunahan ko pa daw ang diyos. affected ..

    sabi ko na nga ba eh, yun atheist status nila ngaun d'pa period eh. okey lang yun, at least alam ko di pa kayo fully nakuha ng other side. kahit papano i can save two people here *uls and *ghost. para pag nakabalik ako sa Europe, napakasarap ng feeling ko
    di mo pansin yung pagiging self righteous mo

    kailangan pa i-point out sayo ng non-believer

    na-i-pont out na nga sayo di mo parin na-acknowledge

    obviously walang kwenta sayo ang bible verses

    coz you think talaga mas righteous ka sa non believer kahit self righteous ka

    oh well... that's the typical holier-than-thou stance of believers

    but they're usually hypocrites

    on the outside lang yung pagiging holy and righteous. tuwing linggo lang yan. for an hour lang. in church
    Last edited by uls; May 3rd, 2012 at 05:48 PM.

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    #158
    I think its just natural for Atheists to be familiar with bible verses, etc... because most either grew up, studied in a school, or was but became disillusioned sa *insert religion here*

    Anyways, I think it would be silly to be "against" something you don't know anything about anyway.

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    #159
    ^^^

    pero yung mga walang alam sa evolution against sa evolution hahaha

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    si believer wala masyado alam sa science pero strongly against science... he belittles scientists and mathematicians

    walang kwenta daw ang ginagawa ng mga yan

    instead of learning about things he knows little about, he formulated his own theories nalang about the world around him

    either tamad mag aral or feeling mas magaling

    eh ang mga theories niya pinaghalong religion, myths and aliens and fiction
    Last edited by uls; May 3rd, 2012 at 07:13 PM. Reason: added the word "fiction"

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    Its not surprising!!!!!!It doesnt mean that if they deny the existence of God or the truth about Jesus Christ,it change God and the truth about Jesus Christ and His Church.

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