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    #101
    Simple kasi and design ng jeep na ito..... walang ganong sticker..

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    #102
    Ang maganda lang dito iyong sukat ng chassis pareho sa willys type hindi masyadong mahaba at maraming ilaw sa harap simple lang.

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    #103
    bro Speed unlimited, thanks for this info. ngayon lng ako nakapag check ng forum natin e. anyway papakita ko sa Mechanic ito. actually medyo nawala pero nung hinataw ko at nalubak ayun nag wiggle nanaman. thanks

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    #104
    Quote Originally Posted by electricx View Post
    "Another variation of a Willys' Jeep. proudly made by backyard native assemblers of jeeps"


    "the problem is pag nasa 50 to 60 na nag wiwigle na ang front [COLOR=blue! important]wheel at parang matatangala ang harap. pinalitan ko na gearbox, mags, gulong pero eto parin sya hindi makatakbo ng maayos ka pag nalubak parang makakalas. sayang maayos pa ang kaha at makina"

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    Pag ganyan kasi, chassis and steering components problem yan. Kung nagwiwiggle at speed, ibig sabihin me kelangang palitan or may maluwag sa steering components mo. I would not know for certain kung anung particular part pero meron dun. Pwedeng maluluwag or paliting tie rods, pitman arm, steering gearbox. I-check lang at maaayos pa. Yung jeep namin, tumakbo ng 100, di naman nag-wiwiggle. Madami pa ngang kayang ibigay pero di naman kami kumakarera.

    Quote Originally Posted by electricx View Post
    As a technical man of automotive technology, we could be proud of it's made by backyard native assemblers. On the side of technicality, said jeepney made hereat is NOT WELL ENGINEERED. It's parts could be considered CHOPSUEY. Meaning taken from different brands. The look is somewhat fine but in totality it's cloned/copied. In my personal opinion we could not be proud of this vehicle for reason that it's not pinoy originality-CLONED! The vehicle is atmosphere POLLUTANT wherein it's surplus engine from other country does not pass the emission standard of the said countries.Underchasis parts are CHOPSUEY. If you'll noticed said jeepney could not make a U-turn like vehicles manufactured by well known car dealers. the reason is the local jeepney manufacture has no technical knowledge in automotive. There is a computation of turning radius of vehicle. It's body is so light / heavy not in accordance with the engine power. And local manufacturer does not understand the center of gravity consideration. The assembling procedure of same is not again in accordance with the automotive standard.
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    Well I agree and disagree with this part of this post. Kasi:
    I've seen owner type jeeps built in Navotas and Malabon that are at par with how manufacturers makde their cars now. True, their parts are chopsuey but if anybody would dare to build a jeep using new parts from various sellers, kayang mag-engineer ng jeep na pwede mong ilaban sa mga cars ng kung anu-anong brands.

    - Pollutant? Not all. At least, ours. Kasi kahit surplus pa ang engines nito, we know na in Japan, they buy and give up their cars like they're changing television sets, parang clothes nga lang eh. Pag di na current model, dispose na. But these engines, if properly checked and maintained, could still be worthy and clean workhorses. We have old vehicles but that runs clean. Well, technically not as clean as new engines but they're definitely still road worthy. We have Mistubishi L300s that use the same old 4D56 diesel engines. The very same engine that was used in late 1980s Pajeros. but they are Euro 2 compliant. It's because these engines can still run cleanly given that it has perfectly working parts. Given the proper care and maintenance, it can put up decent emissions figures comparable to newer engines.

    - Underchassis parts are chopsuey? Partly true bot not absolutely. There are jeep makers that use parts from the same vehicle. From the leaf spring to the chassis, to bushings, to suspension mounts, name it. It'll only cost you more but definitely, not all jeeps are chopsuey.

    - Finally, " the reason is the local jeepney manufacture has no technical knowledge in automotive." This I can't agree with. if indeed these people don't have technical knowledge in automotive (or better yet, automobiles), how can they make different car parts work together in one vehicle? How can they produce these vehicles from nothing? How were they able to convert steering sytems, drivetrains and other important parts in a car? I think this shows Pinoys' ingenuity of making use of materials that people from other countries would consider trash.

    And about the clone thingy? Look at Hyundai. They started producing clones of Mitsubishi cars like the Lancer (elantra), L300 van (Grace) and others. Kia licensed Ford Fiestas to make Kia Prides and Mazda E2000s to make the Kia Besta. Look at Proton of Malaysia, that licensed Lancers to build the Wira in the 90's. Look at where they are right now? They are successful carmakers in their own right. Hyundai and Kia is even one of the top brands in quality surveys globally. And Chevrolet's Aveo and Captiva? They are designs from Daewoo. (a Korean company bought by GM)

    The only problem with the jeep is that, nobody from the government bothered to help assemblers in keeping the development of these vehicles working. We've already proved that we can be good designers of vehicles. Remember the Toyota Tamaraw? The Delta-built ones? It was the same platform that Toyota have copied in resurrecting the Tamaraw in Indonesia. And up to now, many Asean countries still use that platfrom of ours. That even led to the birth of the Asian Utility Vehicle (AUV).

    The jeepney is something that we can all be proud of as Pinoys. It's all about a matter of realizing it's worth.

    Quote Originally Posted by electricx View Post
    If said vehicle is within the automotive standard, why the western countries are not interested in acquiring same considering it's price is lower compared to their manufactured vehicle.
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    Nobody did because almost all have their versions of the Jeep. The US has GM's Jeep label, Korea makes Jeep clones with Ssangyong Rocstas. So why bother to get Filipinos make one for them right?

    My dream is to build a jeepney with a front wheel drive lay-out. One with a brand new Common-rail diesel engine. One with all new suspension parts. Kaya naman eh. We can all get there. Ang kelangan ng Pinoy jeepneys, suporta. And bright minds that will further it's evolution.

    Hats off ako sa nag-start ng thread na ito. Galing mo dude! Keep this thread running.

    I've also read somewhere that a person is looking for an automatic owner type jeep.Well,
    eron pong automatic na Jeep.

    Here's one example...
    This jeep is an airconditioned jeep. Eto yung specs and features na we would find in branded vehicles:
    - 2.0L Mazda RF Diesel Turbo
    - 4 speed automatic transmission with overdrive (functioning)
    - Power windows
    - Power door locks (central locking)
    - Cobra Alarm
    - Pioneer iPod-ready dvd head unit (display na lang kulang)
    - Rear wiper
    - 4 wheel semi-elliptical leaf spring
    - Front disk brakes
    - Windshield washers among others

    Eto, kami lang gumawa (some makers sa Navotas) and it's our project vehicle. Pang balagbagan talaga. It's not as comfortable kagaya ng kotse na galing casa pero proudly Pinoy talaga. Ask around sa Navotas. Madami pang mas magandang gumawa na builders (jewels) Pwede ka pang magpa personalize (choose the engine, suspension type, power features). A stainless aircon jeep would cost around 300-400k. Mahal but pag natapos, worth it. :-) Iyong-iyo talaga. Orig...

    Here are pics of it..



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    #105
    Ganda ng pag kakagawa dito sir ah. saan po exact location ng mga gawaan sa navotas? para ma ka pag check naman po kung anu pwede paayos sa owner namin.

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    #106
    Mga Sir, ask ko lng po anu gamit nyo po palang fuel gauge sa owner? kasi 2times nako nag palit sablay pa din po e. last time pinakabit ko yung ROX hindi din daw po accurate hindi na kinabit ng electrician. any suggestion po. thanks

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    #107


    powered by toyota 5k..
    with neon lights..
    e2 po OTJ ko,, 11 years na.. ^_^

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    #108
    Quote Originally Posted by fernanmig View Post
    Mga Sir, ask ko lng po anu gamit nyo po palang fuel gauge sa owner? kasi 2times nako nag palit sablay pa din po e. last time pinakabit ko yung ROX hindi din daw po accurate hindi na kinabit ng electrician. any suggestion po. thanks
    Yazaki brand gamit ko accurate at matibay .

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    #109
    Quote Originally Posted by speed unlimited View Post
    Yazaki brand gamit ko accurate at matibay .
    Sir magkano po ito yazaki at saan makakabili? floter and fuel gauge na po.

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    #110
    Sa mga Auto supply ko lang sa blumentrit nabili itong sa akin at hindi naman mahal ito.

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