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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by kulotzky View Post
    Here's my 10 cents:

    Dapat "exclusively" produced lang sa Pinas ang GT111. Alam n'yo ba kung bakit? Kasi, pag nakialam ang mga foreigners o banyaga, they will steal the idea and worsed: they will claim they invented it! That will be a VERY SAD scenario na ayaw nating mangyari. Also, the price will be too high for local Pinoys if it will be manufactured outside Pinas. It's about time na makilala ang mga Pinoy around the world. Let's make GT111 to Pinoys as the BMW or Mercedez for Germans. For the first time in history, Pinoys will be as proud as the Germans with regards to their cars. Because GT111 is very economical to drive, it can be used as Taxi (just like the Germans that use Mercedez as taxis in Germany).

    Also, imagine if GT111 is widely used in Manila, LESS POLLUTION di ba?

    If the car is really good as I heard and watched from GMA 7, then there is a BIG POTENTIAL. Michel Gitano can ask support from the government and Pres. Pnoy.

    Ano sa palagay n'yo?
    Private sector support is much better. govt intervention is not good based on their history.

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    #22
    let's all look forward to their first 1,000 units

    ... ok.... first 500

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by kulotzky
    Dapat "exclusively" produced lang sa Pinas ang GT111. Alam n'yo ba kung bakit? Kasi, pag nakialam ang mga foreigners o banyaga, they will steal the idea and worsed: they will claim they invented it! That will be a VERY SAD scenario na ayaw nating mangyari. Also, the price will be too high for local Pinoys if it will be manufactured outside Pinas. It's about time na makilala ang mga Pinoy around the world. Let's make GT111 to Pinoys as the BMW or Mercedez for Germans. For the first time in history, Pinoys will be as proud as the Germans with regards to their cars. Because GT111 is very economical to drive, it can be used as Taxi (just like the Germans that use Mercedez as taxis in Germany).
    Quote Originally Posted by frag View Post
    however, is that design took just 4 months, pre-production just 2 months, and actual build time just 3 months. and the car is essentially sold
    Definitely, the GT111 is classified as a KIT CAR.

    The entire Hybrid Engine and Powertrain was sourced from the USA. The Philippines does not have the technology or equipment to produce such.

    Only the Body is Philippine-Made. Hence, the quick design and production time.

    This is like the PhUV, but in a nicer form.

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by kulotzky View Post
    Here's my 10 cents:

    Dapat "exclusively" produced lang sa Pinas ang GT111. Alam n'yo ba kung bakit? Kasi, pag nakialam ang mga foreigners o banyaga, they will steal the idea and worsed: they will claim they invented it! That will be a VERY SAD scenario na ayaw nating mangyari. Also, the price will be too high for local Pinoys if it will be manufactured outside Pinas. It's about time na makilala ang mga Pinoy around the world. Let's make GT111 to Pinoys as the BMW or Mercedez for Germans. For the first time in history, Pinoys will be as proud as the Germans with regards to their cars. Because GT111 is very economical to drive, it can be used as Taxi (just like the Germans that use Mercedez as taxis in Germany).

    Also, imagine if GT111 is widely used in Manila, LESS POLLUTION di ba?

    If the car is really good as I heard and watched from GMA 7, then there is a BIG POTENTIAL. Michel Gitano can ask support from the government and Pres. Pnoy.

    Ano sa palagay n'yo?
    The kind of hardware required for even a low-performance all-electric that can do highway speeds (around 100 km/h) and get at least 60 kilometers of range is nearly a million pesos (last I heard the "economy" conversion packs for street cars in this range is about $15k in the US... that's the cost of a brand new Honda Jazz 1.5 over there).

    If we want electric taxis that can keep up with EDSA traffic, the best we can do is use one of those conversion kits, buy secondhand taxis to convert (at about 150k), add new suspension parts, tires, beefier brakes, new paint... refresh the interior... You can have an electric tax for just 1.1 or 1.2 million bucks. If you want it with brand-new bodies, you'll need about 1.5m so you can buy Chinese bodies to stuff the electric drive into.

    If you want an electric sports car with US hardware? I estimate about 2m-3m or so for a glass-bodied two seater...

    Of course they'll have to build it overseas. Build it where your market is to keep the price down. The local market is only big enough for maybe a dozen sales a year at most. That's not enough to make it economical to build here.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #25
    Quote Originally Posted by kulotzky View Post
    Here's my 10 cents:

    Dapat "exclusively" produced lang sa Pinas ang GT111. Alam n'yo ba kung bakit? Kasi, pag nakialam ang mga foreigners o banyaga, they will steal the idea and worsed: they will claim they invented it! That will be a VERY SAD scenario na ayaw nating mangyari. Also, the price will be too high for local Pinoys if it will be manufactured outside Pinas. It's about time na makilala ang mga Pinoy around the world. Let's make GT111 to Pinoys as the BMW or Mercedez for Germans. For the first time in history, Pinoys will be as proud as the Germans with regards to their cars. Because GT111 is very economical to drive, it can be used as Taxi (just like the Germans that use Mercedez as taxis in Germany).

    Also, imagine if GT111 is widely used in Manila, LESS POLLUTION di ba?

    If the car is really good as I heard and watched from GMA 7, then there is a BIG POTENTIAL. Michel Gitano can ask support from the government and Pres. Pnoy.

    Ano sa palagay n'yo?

    Filipinos are just too conservative when choosing to buy a new car. Given electric cars are still to prove itself here and abroad as a practical transport, the GT111 will not be a seller.

    One issue is the cost of the FINISHED car. Pinoys will expect it to match the fit and finish of cars from japanese and korean brand cars.

    Another issue is the cost of production. It would be doubtful that it would sell more than a few hundred units annually even if it's a success. At that level, it will be literally be hand-made which will make it very expensive. Automated production line would be too expensive to invest into. Handmade parts = non-standard parts = bad quality control.

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    Dapat "exclusively" produced lang sa Pinas ang GT111. Alam n'yo ba kung bakit? Kasi, pag nakialam ang mga foreigners o banyaga, they will steal the idea and worsed: they will claim they invented it! That will be a VERY SAD scenario na ayaw nating mangyari.
    what is there to steal?

    meron ba pinoy-originated patentable technology sa car na yan?

    it's gonna use foreign powertrain/drivetrain

    ano technology pwede nakawin sa car na yan? yung design ng body? yung abaca dashboard?

    Also, the price will be too high for local Pinoys if it will be manufactured outside Pinas.
    if it will be mass produced here it won't be cheap

    ask them how much the prototype cost to build

    cost palang yan

    then yung profit margin pa pag gagawa sila pambenta

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    It's about time na makilala ang mga Pinoy around the world.
    hey we already got Manny Pacquiao

    and that beauty queen

    Let's make GT111 to Pinoys as the BMW or Mercedez for Germans. For the first time in history, Pinoys will be as proud as the Germans with regards to their cars.
    wow

    easy lang

    Because GT111 is very economical to drive, it can be used as Taxi (just like the Germans that use Mercedez as taxis in Germany).
    taxi operators will buy that car? oooookaaaaay

    Also, imagine if GT111 is widely used in Manila, LESS POLLUTION di ba?
    ever seen an electric car here?

    nakakita ako ng Prius sa kalye. 2 times palang sa buong buhay ko

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    #28
    Pollution will not cease in the world. That's a mere impossible thing to do.

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    too early to celebrate dudes

    wait for actual customer orders

    and funding to begin production

    funding will come from venture capitalists

    it's a startup company

    --

    if they're successful, they would turn out like Fisker Automotive

    or Tesla Motors (IPO Jan. 2010)

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    #30
    I wonder whats the platform? tubular space frame? hehehe

    Ok lang if galing sa states yung engine, Pagani nga Mercedes gamit eh. Nothing wrong with that.

    Even if its hand-made here there nothing wrong with that... Ever seen how RR-phantom is made? hand-crafted baby...

    Tama na yang crab mentality, just wish them all the Best...

    I just wish they'd make the handling one of the best-balanced out there to make itself felt in the sportcar arena....

    Sana affordable for pinoys here din, para mag ka sports car tyo... hehehe

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