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    #221
    Quote Originally Posted by cripple_rooster View Post
    Fiberglass takes a lot of energy and mineral resources to be manufactured, while some vegetable fibers can be used as an alternative. Coconut fiber, cotton, and even hemp could be a viable replacement to fiberglass.
    Viable replacement?

    To be viable, it has to prove it can match the strength and durability of fiberglass. Do you have any studies to prove your statement?

    From my knowledge, coco-fiber, cotton and hemp do not have the tensile strength anywhere near to match fiberglass.

    Kindly backup your statements because fabricating facts out of thin air is not useful in this discussion.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; September 1st, 2012 at 04:52 PM.

  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Viable replacement?

    To be viable, it has to prove it can match the strength and durability of fiberglass. Do you have any studies to prove your statement?

    From my knowledge, coco-fiber, cotton and hemp do not have the tensile strength anywhere near to match fiberglass.

    Kindly backup your statements because fabricating facts out of thin air is not useful in this discussion.
    In the former East Germany there was the Trabant, a small car which body panels were made out of cotton-reinforced plastic. In China, hemp fiber is still widely used to reinforce plastics in many industrial applications - it's even used to reinforce concrete structures in buildings.

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    #223
    Quote Originally Posted by cripple_rooster View Post
    In the former East Germany there was the Trabant, a small car which body panels were made out of cotton-reinforced plastic. In China, hemp fiber is still widely used to reinforce plastics in many industrial applications - it's even used to reinforce concrete structures in buildings.
    And the same Trabant plastic is causing pollution because it cannot be recycled nor bio-degradable.

    I would not want to live nor work in hemp reinforced concrete structures. The reason steel is used in reinforced concrete is because of it's tensile strength per cross sectional area. As we know, concrete is very strong in compression but extremely weak in tension.

    Using hemp-concrete might be fine in non-critical areas which results in a durable and light concrete mix but I doubt it is used in critical loaded areas of a structure. This is the same as using styrofoam blended concrete to make lightweight concrete for non-critical areas of a structure. It is so light that it will float. But it can never be used for critical sections of a structure.
    Last edited by ghosthunter; September 1st, 2012 at 05:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    And the same Trabant plastic is causing pollution because it cannot be recycled nor bio-degradable.



    After all, fiberglass is as hard to recycle as the Trabant's plastic.

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    #225
    Quote Originally Posted by drey View Post
    GUys, have you ever thought about Street Cars? Bakit hindi sya naging uso sa Pinas?
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    We used to have them in Metro Manila. But the system was destroyed beyond repair during World War II.

    Trivia time, the company that ran the street cars was MERALCO.

    The Lost Tranvias of Manila | The Ilustrado



    MERALCO - Manila Electric Railroad And Light COmpany

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    #226
    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    The Lost Tranvias of Manila | The Ilustrado



    MERALCO - Manila Electric Railroad And Light COmpany
    kuwento nang "nakaka-alam",
    several decades ago, government was at the crossroads,
    "shall we develop mass transport, i.e., railroad, or shall we develop roads for motor vehicles?
    well, we all know what they decided.

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    #227
    Up to now puro non-tourist friendly american-influenced jeepneys parin ang nasa kalsada, with very little effective alternatives. One huge reason kung bakit sobrang dami ng motor sa daan ngayon, bukod sa cars. Also imagine the age of this thread since 07 pa nga.

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    #228
    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    Up to now puro non-tourist friendly american-influenced jeepneys parin ang nasa kalsada, with very little effective alternatives. One huge reason kung bakit sobrang dami ng motor sa daan ngayon, bukod sa cars. Also imagine the age of this thread since 07 pa nga.
    i respectfully disagree.
    motorcycles are ubiquitous, because of the convenience they offer, coupled with the affordable price.

    and the non-tourist-friendly-american-influenced jeepneys are still here, because they are cheap, compared to the alternative.

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