A Future for Jeepneys (What do you think?)

[uls]

ilan decades na kasi ganyan ang public transport system natin kaya mahirap baguhin

pwede if you build things from the ground up

like a brand new city with a transport system that only uses buses and subway system

bawal puj, tricycles, pedicab

buses operated by the govt. monthly salary ang driver. limited number of buses. get on and off at bus stops only

kung babaguhin mo ang sistema sa existing city it's almost impossible. sanay na kasi mga tao sa sistema. napakatigas pa ang ulo ayaw sa pagbabago

[renzo_d10]

^ Kapag nawala jeepney, yung mga motorists like us lang matutuwa. The rest, rally na ng rally. Kung sabagay, they can't see the overall advantage of not having jeepneys at all. A 'greener' environment, less chaotic road encounters & less noise pollution.

*master jedi: Okay lang for small cities ang coaster buses. I-convert nalang sideways yung mga upuan para mas malaki capacity, pero limited lang number nila para hindi rin makaabala. For a tomas morato-timog-kamuning travel, let's say 2-3 coaster buses lang. Pero dun lang sila, they have designated drop-off & pick-up points. Nobody will stop unless they've reached their drop-off points.

After all, other people lived without jeepneys, why can't we?

[fourtheboys96]

this all boils down to planning (i.e. small roads where only jeepneys and tricycles can be accommodated)

magaling naman tayo mag-plano. mahina lang tayo mag-implement lalo na pag may masasagasaan.

[GTi]

Ang mga Pinoy naman kasi sanay na sa convenience ng jeepney. Convenience taken at the expense of us motorists. Kahit saan pwede magpara kahit nasa gitna ng kalsada and almost all of the time there are no signal lights or brake lights to speak of. At mas maliit naman kasi ang jeepney, napapasukan ang mga lugar na di mapapasukan ng bus. Nasanayang maging tamad na ang Pinoy commuting public.

Hindi naman talagang indispensable ang jeepneys, lalo na ngayon with the advent of UV/GT-Express. Only a few petot more than the standard jeepney fare, mas mabilis sa jeepney at naka-aircon pa. Same goes with passenger buses. Sinubukan ko lang isang beses mag-aircon bus at nagulat nalang ako na napakamura pala!

Hindi rin lang naman tayong mga motorista ang masisiyahan sa pagwala ng jeepney, may pang-backup pa tayong sila manong bus driver, manong taxi driver at manong GT Express driver. Count out the tricycle drivers, mga peste din sila.

[uls]

ya tamad kasi ang pinoy mag lakad. blame it on the climate

kaya kahit saan may masasakyan

kahit yung pwede lakarin gusto sumakay nalang

kaya may tricycle kuliglig pedicab. meron demand eh... so meron supply

[niky]

The best alternative to the Jeepney would simply be to replace them all with more efficient, newer L300 FBs, Hyundai Porters and Kia KC2700s.

More efficient engines. Cleaner (well... I don't know about the L300...)... and safer.

If we want locally made jeepneys to reach even the low levels of sophistication that these FB-style vehicles possess, the only way is to ban the jeep and raise the fares to a level that will encourage businessmen and operators to invest in newer vehicles.

As it is... with the ultra-low fares of jeeps... lugi ka if you buy brand-new. Only way to achieve a quick ROI or even break even is to buy a secondhand POS made thirty years ago which has been around the block a million times.

Look at what happened to the PhUV. Even if they could get it out at 450k back then, there was no market. People who are looking at rudimentary transport like that are more likely to go for decade old secondhand Japanese diesels.

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Fiberglass... aside from the health risks from the fibers (same risk you get from cigarettes... the fibers can puncture your lungs) and resins... fiberglass degrades with exposure to heat and UV. The strength and impact resistance goes down over time. It's a good replacement for some of the steel used, but you still need a frame underneath it, anyway...

[jave]

Only one place for jeepneys: the junkyard.

[GTi]

Yun nga lang the AUVs, even without aircon and rear doors and windows would cost at least 500k-600k. No way they are taking that. Given the option, they'll start it again with their act of having no money, simpleng tao simpleng buhay, etc, etc, etc... We'll probably be needing another Marcos to eradicate those jeepneys. They seem to fail to notice na yung jeep nila kasing lakas uminom o mas malakas pa uminom kesa sa Jeep Ni Erap. :rofl: I don't think it will take very long for them to recover their investments, should they indeed change to these types of vehicle. Sa fuel savings palang eh mabilis na. They travel hundreds of kilometers a day, libo libo na ang binabayad na pang-gas. Siguro libo libo na rin ang savings nila daily kung sinabi nating mga 2x or better ang gas mileage ng bagong sasakyan. Eh di libo libo din ang dagdag sa pambaon pauwi. Hindi tumitingin ng malayo eh.

[flakez]

dapat wag na magbigay ng prankisa. matagal man pero may masisira, magsasawa o aasenso sa mga may dati ng prankisa. so mauubos din mga yan pag tagal. in that way hindi matatamaan yung mga current jeepney drivers tapos yung mga nagbabalak mag jeep eh hindi na tutuloy. palitan na lang ng bus o ano man pag kinakapos na yung isang lugar.

[marg]

dapat wag na magbigay ng prankisa. matagal man pero may masisira, magsasawa o aasenso sa mga may dati ng prankisa. so mauubos din mga yan pag tagal.

Kuliglig nga hindi mabawasan Jeepney pa?

You are talking about the Philippines here. Eberything is out of control.

[uls]

Kuliglig nga hindi mabawasan Jeepney pa?

You are talking about the Philippines here. Eberything is out of control.

jologs rule

whatever they want they get

kung gusto nila mag videoke party mag sa-sara sila ng kalye

the barangay provides them tents pa

[renzo_d10]

What if taasan yung fare ng jeepney to the point na malulugi yung operator at magsstop nalang ng business nila so mababawasan na mga jeepney...

Pwede naman nga mga Kia KC, or Hyundai's eh. Sabihin na natin 10 pesos ang fare. Small number lang bibigyan ng franchise. Then with certain pick-up and drop off points. Luluwag na rin yan somehow.

Isa kasi sa nakaka-contribute sa traffic natin ay yung kabobohan ng mga driver eh. Hinto lang kung saan saan.

[robot.sonic]

Ang isang problema dito sa mga jeepney driver ay masyadong twisted ang perspective nila.

Kahit anong enforcement ang gawin ay babalik lang yan sa dating ugali. Kasi mali talaga ang pananaw. Dapat yung pananaw muna nila ang baguhin.

Minsan pagsakay ko ng jeep, sya ang pinakauna sa intersection. Pagka green ng ilaw, sumakay ng pasahero sa kabilang side ng intersection. Di man lang tinabi. Nung binusinahan ng nasa likod, sabi ng driver "lumipad ka". Dami nyang naharangan.

Meron bang special license for PUV drivers? Sana meron para every renewal, may 1 day na seminar. Baka sakaling magbago ang pananaw.

[uls]

Ang isang problema dito sa mga jeepney driver ay masyadong twisted ang perspective nila.

Kahit anong enforcement ang gawin ay babalik lang yan sa dating ugali. Kasi mali talaga ang pananaw. Dapat yung pananaw muna nila ang baguhin.

Minsan pagsakay ko ng jeep, sya ang pinakauna sa intersection. Pagka green ng ilaw, sumakay ng pasahero sa kabilang side ng intersection. Di man lang tinabi. Nung binusinahan ng nasa likod, sabi ng driver "lumipad ka". Dami nyang naharangan.

Meron bang special license for PUV drivers? Sana meron para every renewal, may 1 day na seminar. Baka sakaling magbago ang pananaw.

yan ang sinasabi ko -- na ang jeepney cause ng traffic dahil mga driver jologs

kaya ganyan behavior nila kasi lumaki sila na walang disiplina. mga laking bundok tapos bumaba ng manila at humawak ng manibela

mga utak nila di pwede pang siyudad pero nasa siyudad sila

di nila nirerespeto ang mga batas siyudad kasi sanay sila walang batas batas sa bundok na pinanggalingan nila

walang kwenta ang seminar seminar na yan

di uubra yan sa mga utak bundok

wala sila paki sa ibang tao kung nakakaharang sila sa trapik dahil naghahanapbuhay sila

problema na ng ibang tao yan kung di maka abante

kaya doon sa thread re public utility drivers disregard ambulances -- wala naman sila paki kung mamatay ang pasyente sa pag harang nila sa kalye. di nila problema yan. ang priority nila hanapbuhay nila. di naman nila mahal sa buhay yan nasa ambulansya

ganyan ang utak jologs

[uls]

the way to phaseout jeepneys is to not renew their registration

the LTO should impose a tough set of standards PUJs should pass before pwede ma-renew ang rehistro

standards set high enough that PUJs can't possibly pass (emissions, safety, etc)

pero syempre magrereklamo mga operators and drivers at ma-pressure mga politician at ma-suspend ang plano

yan ang Pinas

[renzo_d10]

the way to phaseout jeepneys is to not renew their registration

the LTO should impose a tough set of standards PUJs should pass before pwede ma-renew ang rehistro

standards set high enough that PUJs can't possibly pass (emissions, safety, etc)

pero syempre magrereklamo mga operators and drivers at ma-pressure mga politician at ma-suspend ang plano

yan ang Pinas

At mag-pplanking pa yung mga ogag sa Commonwealth...

Kasing bulok ng jeep nila ang kanilang utak.

[ecneret]

wala na tayo magagawa sa mga jeepneys satin pagdating sa disiplina... dapat gawin sa mga yan yung katulad sa mga electric buses sa china (can't remember kung sa beijing or sa guangzhu ko siya nakita and di ko din alam kung sa buong china e may ganito), may mga lanes lang talaga na para sa kanila.. di sila pwede mag-overtake or magiba ng route or else mawawalan sila ng power supply pag naputol yung koneksyon nila pag umalis sa lane or route nila. parang LRT/MRT lang satin... yun nga lang bus siya and nasa kalsada talaga.

[armscor40]

other perspective to consider also is the parts industry...

malaki ang malulugi sa kanila bcoz the bulk of their orders came from jurassic engines of jeepneys na alam natin madali masira so tendency is to buy immediately kasi theres a need (otherwise suffer ang boundary for a particular day) at mura even the pricing is a competition also sa mga parts dealer...syempre mas gusto ng mga dealer na lagi masira mga jeepneys na yan para lagi sila magpalit ng piyesa at mas mabilis din ROI nila, di ba kahit sa kapitbahay mo meron na din parts supplier kung saan madaming jeepneys...

so its a domino effect if ever the jeepneys could phase-out...specially mga marginalized sector of society na mga drivers at operators where the biggest chunk of VOTES came from, are the politicians willing to sacrifice it??? i doubt it!*!

[armscor40]

my proposal is to replace w/ a smaller one but w/ new engine and high ground clearance...efficient in all aspects of operation, i believe...

SUZUKI BRAVO MUTLICAB w/ aircon pa...for those plying Metro Manila roads, to minimize the use of limited space lalo na sa main roads...

then sa province na lang yun mga KC2700 or Hyundai Porter, at least sure tayo sa safety and reliability ng mga manufacturers...

[jedi]

masyado maliit multi cab for manila imho..

maybe what government can do is gawing TAX FREE muna yung KC2700, Porter etc... then 10 to 15 years to pay sa mga magpapalit from jeepney... or gawin parang boundery-hulog para sa mga jeepney drivers.

my proposal is to replace w/ a smaller one but w/ new engine and high ground clearance...efficient in all aspects of operation, i believe...

SUZUKI BRAVO MUTLICAB w/ aircon pa...for those plying Metro Manila roads, to minimize the use of limited space lalo na sa main roads...

then sa province na lang yun mga KC2700 or Hyundai Porter, at least sure tayo sa safety and reliability ng mga manufacturers...