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    #21
    There will be public viewing for the e-jeepney on July 10 at Greenbelt One , nakausap ko yung isang representative ng Greenpeace at incharge sa ejeepney we can meet with them at around 3pm.

    Tsikoteers and Tsikot PhUV group are encouraged to attend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    Or a flywheel to store the energy.
    not that useful, unless you can spin it up to 100,000 rpm based on braking energy alone.

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    The Philippines is not yet ready for a costly proposition like a e-jeepney. There is alot of things to be considered aside from just acquiring it. Makati should re-think its plan and just focus on more long-term solution like the acquisition of eco-friendly (fed by biofuel) PHUV which has more socio-economic and environmental impact.

    I fear that the e-jeepney from China will become another white elephant. Issues such as durability (fiberglass--init, ulan at bangga.suspension--wasak sa pasahero yan), availability of spareparts (kung masira-mag-iimport?pa-tingi-tingi, mahal), performance (gaano tatagal baterya.makakatakbo pa ba yan kung puro balyena (a.k.a. mataba o mabigat)ang sumakay?), maintenance( saan i-cha-charge?bili ba charger sa wellcom? sino magtrouble shoot?dahil muna china?pag nawarak kaagad ang engine yan sa bigat at dalas ng biyahe, ma-repair ba yan o palit makina? may-change oil ba yan?pinapalitan ba tubig ng baterya?.

    Tsaka, wala naman ibibigay na trabaho sa mga unemeployed na latero at mekaniko dito yang e-jeepney.

    Ready bang gumasta ang makati sa mga ibang sssupporting infrastructures na kailangan tulad ng recharging station?disposal ng used batteries?dedicated route? available cheap loans for would-be operators?wag nilang sabihin na sila mismo bibili.

    Ang PHUV gawang pinoy,viable,maraming pinoy magkakatrabaho at masasagip na trabaho, ayaw ng ibang smart aleck na bigyan ng government support, tapos ang isang all-imported and untested vehicle gagastahan ng lokal na pamahalaan?

    Mukhang there is something wrong with that. Pag Pinoy initiative, maraming daldal at kontra.Pero pag imported, ok lang.

    The only good thing about the e-jeepney is that it is eco-friendly and should be the wave of the future for the Philippine transport system. But for the meantime, dahil wala tayong capability dyan focus muna sa pagdevelop ng other viable, eco-friendly local vehicles such as PHUV.O kaya bilhin yung ginawang electric vehicle nung Pinoy na ini-endorse ng MVPMAP.

    Walang aircon, open ang cab-trapal lang, maliit-12 lang sakay, tapos 550,000 pesos daw. Ang PHUV 350-400k lang, bakit walang nagsupport Makati?

    Mayor Binay, my idol, please help the PHUV instead of the e-jeepney.

    Greenpeace, I always believe in youR ADVOCACY. But be sensitive also to the REAL NEEDS OF FILIPINOS.I KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE THAT ECOLOGICAL PROTECTION AND POVERTY ARE INTERWINED, THAT IS WHY THERE IS A NEED TO ADDRESS BOTH TO SERIOUSLY MITIGATE ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS IN THE COUNTRY
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    #24
    [SIZE=2]Clean, green PhUVs to replace jeepneys
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    [SIZE=2]BY IRMA ISIP[/SIZE]
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    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]The government is preparing a new vehicle program to cater to a wider C and D market, replace the jeepneys , help the local vehicle parts makers and at the same time help preserve the environment.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]Board of Investments managing head Elmer C. Hernandez said, the Philippines will copy the successful "one-ton pick-up program" of Taiwan. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]By encouraging the assembly of vehicles costing no more than P400,000, the government will encourage public transport operators to refleet.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]Thus the heavily polluting jeepneys using reconditioned engines will be phased out. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]Hernandez said Quirino Rep. Junie Cua has authored a bill encouraging refleeting of public transport to use brand-new engines and locally assembled vehicles.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]Hernandez said the approach of such a program is also consistent with the PhUV program, which is the assembly of a vehicle with locally-sourced parts being led by the Motor VehicleParts Manufacturers Association of the Philippines (MVPMAP) [/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]He added that Sen. Mar Roxas has met with members of the Chamber of Automotive Manufacturers of the Philippines Inc. in December where he pushed for the development of affordable made in the Philippines vehicles that would cater to the C and D classes.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]Hernandez said Roxas laments the fact that local assemblers are all geared to the A and B segments of the market, which is not growing. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]"To have a viable industry, we have to target the C and D markets which comprise a huge part of the base. To do that, motor vehicles should be affordable," Hernandez said.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]This way, Hernandez said, industry would also be helping solve the problem of second-hand vehicles by giving them a vehicle with guaranteed service and spare parts, assuring them of quality since these are branded.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]Hernandez said if we attain a critical mass, assemblers would be encouraged to invest in engine manufacturing, one of the major investment requirements in motor vehicle industry.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]The framework for the PhUV is being prepared by BOI in cooperation with Campi, Truck Manufacturers Association of the Philippines and MVPMAP which is targetted for completion before the next Congress opens in July. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]MVPMAP Director Ferdi Raquelsantos said proponents look for exemption from excise tax, income tax holidays, duty-free importation of raw materials and machinery, reduced fuel prices for buyers similar to those extended to the public utility jeepneys (PUJs), reduced PhUV LTO registration and a government-led retail financing to make the PhUV affordable". [/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]They are also looking at asking for reduced excise tax for a PhUV unit that can run on alternative fuel, whether gasoline with ethanol (E5 or E10) or the biodiesel. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]They will also push for the government’s strict implementation of the Clean Air Act and the Motor Vehicle Inspection System to ensure a vehicle’s safety, roadworthiness and compliance to environmental standards. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]The industry noted that other Asean countries support their local car industry.. Thailand has a comprehensive package of incentives as it developed a niche market for the one-ton pickup truck and all its SUV derivatives. In the process, it not only grew its pickup truck industry as the biggest in Asia and second to the USA but also the support industries such as the local auto parts makers. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]On the other hand, Malaysia even went to the extent of developing a National Car Program just to break into the international auto market and develop a strong and reliable auto parts industry[/SIZE][/SIZE]



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    Quote Originally Posted by jpdm View Post
    The Philippines is not yet ready for a costly proposition like a e-jeepney. There is alot of things to be considered aside from just acquiring it. Makati should re-think its plan and just focus on more long-term solution like the acquisition of eco-friendly (fed by biofuel) PHUV which has more socio-economic and environmental impact.

    I fear that the e-jeepney from China will become another white elephant. Issues such as durability (fiberglass--init, ulan at bangga.suspension--wasak sa pasahero yan), availability of spareparts (kung masira-mag-iimport?pa-tingi-tingi, mahal), performance (gaano tatagal baterya.makakatakbo pa ba yan kung puro balyena (a.k.a. mataba o mabigat)ang sumakay?), maintenance( saan i-cha-charge?bili ba charger sa wellcom? sino magtrouble shoot?dahil muna china?pag nawarak kaagad ang engine yan sa bigat at dalas ng biyahe, ma-repair ba yan o palit makina? may-change oil ba yan?pinapalitan ba tubig ng baterya?.

    Tsaka, wala naman ibibigay na trabaho sa mga unemeployed na latero at mekaniko dito yang e-jeepney.

    Ready bang gumasta ang makati sa mga ibang sssupporting infrastructures na kailangan tulad ng recharging station?disposal ng used batteries?dedicated route? available cheap loans for would-be operators?wag nilang sabihin na sila mismo bibili.

    Ang PHUV gawang pinoy,viable,maraming pinoy magkakatrabaho at masasagip na trabaho, ayaw ng ibang smart aleck na bigyan ng government support, tapos ang isang all-imported and untested vehicle gagastahan ng lokal na pamahalaan?

    Mukhang there is something wrong with that. Pag Pinoy initiative, maraming daldal at kontra.Pero pag imported, ok lang.

    The only good thing about the e-jeepney is that it is eco-friendly and should be the wave of the future for the Philippine transport system. But for the meantime, dahil wala tayong capability dyan focus muna sa pagdevelop ng other viable, eco-friendly local vehicles such as PHUV.O kaya bilhin yung ginawang electric vehicle nung Pinoy na ini-endorse ng MVPMAP.

    Walang aircon, open ang cab-trapal lang, maliit-12 lang sakay, tapos 550,000 pesos daw. Ang PHUV 350-400k lang, bakit walang nagsupport Makati?

    Mayor Binay, my idol, please help the PHUV instead of the e-jeepney.

    Greenpeace, I always believe in youR ADVOCACY. But be sensitive also to the REAL NEEDS OF FILIPINOS.I KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE THAT ECOLOGICAL PROTECTION AND POVERTY ARE INTERWINED, THAT IS WHY THERE IS A NEED TO ADDRESS BOTH TO SERIOUSLY MITIGATE ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS IN THE COUNTRY
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    Lahat naman ng automobile development nag-umpisa sa problema...improve dito ..improve doon..hanggang naging maayos naman. Sakin lang OK na ang electric...Wala AIR POLLUTION at higit sa lahat di na tayo paglalaruan ng mga oil giants (tumaas ang langis sa world market, di pa nauubos yung nabili ng mahal kaya di pa pwede ibaba ang presyo). Imagine 380,000 barrels per day ang kunsumo ng Pilipinas. Mabawasan lang ng 50% malaking bagay na. Problema lang sa electric ang disposal ng battery pero me paraan naman basta me pondo lang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byebyetoyota View Post
    Lahat naman ng automobile development nag-umpisa sa problema...improve dito ..improve doon..hanggang naging maayos naman. Sakin lang OK na ang electric...Wala AIR POLLUTION at higit sa lahat di na tayo paglalaruan ng mga oil giants (tumaas ang langis sa world market, di pa nauubos yung nabili ng mahal kaya di pa pwede ibaba ang presyo). Imagine 380,000 barrels per day ang kunsumo ng Pilipinas. Mabawasan lang ng 50% malaking bagay na. Problema lang sa electric ang disposal ng battery pero me paraan naman basta me pondo lang.
    Kala ko yung unang mga statements mo para sa PHUV...hay...anyway...

    Di nga tayo paglalaruan ng oil giants, pero ngayon mukhang pinaglalaruan na tayo ng Koreans....nagnenegosyo na walang permit, naninira ng mga boarding at rented houses...nagiging bastos na sa mga Pinoy......
    at ng China.....Northrail.....poachers sa Palawan at Batanes....ZTE scandal....ngayon electric car na overprice ala pa piyesa......

    Ngayon, di lang tayo pinaglalaruan ng mga foreign-owned oil giants, pinaglalaruan patayo ng Hapon, Koreano at China sa sarili nting bayan.

    Ang galing nating pinoy...Yehey!!!!!Mabuhay ang mga foreigners!!!!...huh??
    Last edited by dprox; July 11th, 2007 at 08:48 AM.

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    The PUJ operators and drivers of Makati have spoken, they are not interested in the e-jeepney.

    hopefully, a more viable alternative to the all-imported e-jeepney should be conceptualized.

    Why not an electric PHUV?
    Last edited by dprox; May 7th, 2008 at 05:39 AM.

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    #28
    Sinagot ang panalangin ko.................


    Group eyes electric PhUV
    By Ronnel Domingo
    Inquirer
    Last updated 07:40am (Mla time) 08/01/2007
    The Motor Vehicle Parts Manufacturers Association of the Philippines (MPVAP) announced it had teamed up with a Greenpeace-led group on an initiative to produce electric jeepneys.
    Brought in from Guangzhou, China, two 12-seat e-jeepneys are being tested in Makati City and four others in Bacolod City.
    The group, Green Renewable Independent Power Producer (GRIPP), plans to bring 44 more of the vehicles, which can run for 100 kilometers at up to 40kph with electricity from ordinary wall outlets. Charging takes eight to 10 hours.
    MPVMAP vice president Pia Mirasol said Filipino parts makers had thrown their support behind the GRIPP efforts to make the e-jeepney project viable here and abroad.
    The parts makers "provide GRIPP with technical assistance, such as product design, improvement and development, and the parts needed, to come up with a locally assembled version of the e-jeepney that would help make the project commercially viable and acceptable to the export market,” Mirasol said.
    She added that MVPMAP would “fold in” the e-jeepney into its own Philippine Utility Vehicle (PhUV) Program so that its assembler, parts suppliers and buyers would get the benefits to be given the PhUV Program.
    “We will call it the e-PhUV, and this would complement our other projects, such as the PhUV itself, public utility jeepney refleeting program and our One-Brand project,” Mirasol said.

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by jpdm View Post
    Sinagot ang panalangin ko.................


    Group eyes electric PhUV
    By Ronnel Domingo
    Inquirer
    Last updated 07:40am (Mla time) 08/01/2007
    The Motor Vehicle Parts Manufacturers Association of the Philippines (MPVAP) announced it had teamed up with a Greenpeace-led group on an initiative to produce electric jeepneys.
    Brought in from Guangzhou, China, two 12-seat e-jeepneys are being tested in Makati City and four others in Bacolod City.
    The group, Green Renewable Independent Power Producer (GRIPP), plans to bring 44 more of the vehicles, which can run for 100 kilometers at up to 40kph with electricity from ordinary wall outlets. Charging takes eight to 10 hours.
    MPVMAP vice president Pia Mirasol said Filipino parts makers had thrown their support behind the GRIPP efforts to make the e-jeepney project viable here and abroad.
    The parts makers "provide GRIPP with technical assistance, such as product design, improvement and development, and the parts needed, to come up with a locally assembled version of the e-jeepney that would help make the project commercially viable and acceptable to the export market,” Mirasol said.
    She added that MVPMAP would “fold in” the e-jeepney into its own Philippine Utility Vehicle (PhUV) Program so that its assembler, parts suppliers and buyers would get the benefits to be given the PhUV Program.
    “We will call it the e-PhUV, and this would complement our other projects, such as the PhUV itself, public utility jeepney refleeting program and our One-Brand project,” Mirasol said.
    dami project a.

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    #30
    that's a good project. I hope it succeeds.

"e-Jeepney" - The electric powered jeepney