There will be public viewing for the e-jeepney on July 10 at Greenbelt One , nakausap ko yung isang representative ng Greenpeace at incharge sa ejeepney we can meet with them at around 3pm.
Tsikoteers and Tsikot PhUV group are encouraged to attend.
There will be public viewing for the e-jeepney on July 10 at Greenbelt One , nakausap ko yung isang representative ng Greenpeace at incharge sa ejeepney we can meet with them at around 3pm.
Tsikoteers and Tsikot PhUV group are encouraged to attend.
The Philippines is not yet ready for a costly proposition like a e-jeepney. There is alot of things to be considered aside from just acquiring it. Makati should re-think its plan and just focus on more long-term solution like the acquisition of eco-friendly (fed by biofuel) PHUV which has more socio-economic and environmental impact.
I fear that the e-jeepney from China will become another white elephant. Issues such as durability (fiberglass--init, ulan at bangga.suspension--wasak sa pasahero yan), availability of spareparts (kung masira-mag-iimport?pa-tingi-tingi, mahal), performance (gaano tatagal baterya.makakatakbo pa ba yan kung puro balyena (a.k.a. mataba o mabigat)ang sumakay?), maintenance( saan i-cha-charge?bili ba charger sa wellcom? sino magtrouble shoot?dahil muna china?pag nawarak kaagad ang engine yan sa bigat at dalas ng biyahe, ma-repair ba yan o palit makina? may-change oil ba yan?pinapalitan ba tubig ng baterya?.
Tsaka, wala naman ibibigay na trabaho sa mga unemeployed na latero at mekaniko dito yang e-jeepney.
Ready bang gumasta ang makati sa mga ibang sssupporting infrastructures na kailangan tulad ng recharging station?disposal ng used batteries?dedicated route? available cheap loans for would-be operators?wag nilang sabihin na sila mismo bibili.
Ang PHUV gawang pinoy,viable,maraming pinoy magkakatrabaho at masasagip na trabaho, ayaw ng ibang smart aleck na bigyan ng government support, tapos ang isang all-imported and untested vehicle gagastahan ng lokal na pamahalaan?
Mukhang there is something wrong with that. Pag Pinoy initiative, maraming daldal at kontra.Pero pag imported, ok lang.
The only good thing about the e-jeepney is that it is eco-friendly and should be the wave of the future for the Philippine transport system. But for the meantime, dahil wala tayong capability dyan focus muna sa pagdevelop ng other viable, eco-friendly local vehicles such as PHUV.O kaya bilhin yung ginawang electric vehicle nung Pinoy na ini-endorse ng MVPMAP.
Walang aircon, open ang cab-trapal lang, maliit-12 lang sakay, tapos 550,000 pesos daw. Ang PHUV 350-400k lang, bakit walang nagsupport Makati?
Mayor Binay, my idol, please help the PHUV instead of the e-jeepney.
Greenpeace, I always believe in youR ADVOCACY. But be sensitive also to the REAL NEEDS OF FILIPINOS.I KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE THAT ECOLOGICAL PROTECTION AND POVERTY ARE INTERWINED, THAT IS WHY THERE IS A NEED TO ADDRESS BOTH TO SERIOUSLY MITIGATE ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS IN THE COUNTRY
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[SIZE=2]Clean, green PhUVs to replace jeepneys
[/SIZE][SIZE=1] [SIZE=2] [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]BY IRMA ISIP[/SIZE][/SIZE] [/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][SIZE=2]The government is preparing a new vehicle program to cater to a wider C and D market, replace the jeepneys , help the local vehicle parts makers and at the same time help preserve the environment.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]Board of Investments managing head Elmer C. Hernandez said, the Philippines will copy the successful "one-ton pick-up program" of Taiwan. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]By encouraging the assembly of vehicles costing no more than P400,000, the government will encourage public transport operators to refleet.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]Thus the heavily polluting jeepneys using reconditioned engines will be phased out. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]Hernandez said Quirino Rep. Junie Cua has authored a bill encouraging refleeting of public transport to use brand-new engines and locally assembled vehicles.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]Hernandez said the approach of such a program is also consistent with the PhUV program, which is the assembly of a vehicle with locally-sourced parts being led by the Motor VehicleParts Manufacturers Association of the Philippines (MVPMAP) [/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]He added that Sen. Mar Roxas has met with members of the Chamber of Automotive Manufacturers of the Philippines Inc. in December where he pushed for the development of affordable made in the Philippines vehicles that would cater to the C and D classes.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]Hernandez said Roxas laments the fact that local assemblers are all geared to the A and B segments of the market, which is not growing. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]"To have a viable industry, we have to target the C and D markets which comprise a huge part of the base. To do that, motor vehicles should be affordable," Hernandez said.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]This way, Hernandez said, industry would also be helping solve the problem of second-hand vehicles by giving them a vehicle with guaranteed service and spare parts, assuring them of quality since these are branded.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]Hernandez said if we attain a critical mass, assemblers would be encouraged to invest in engine manufacturing, one of the major investment requirements in motor vehicle industry.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]The framework for the PhUV is being prepared by BOI in cooperation with Campi, Truck Manufacturers Association of the Philippines and MVPMAP which is targetted for completion before the next Congress opens in July. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]MVPMAP Director Ferdi Raquelsantos said proponents look for exemption from excise tax, income tax holidays, duty-free importation of raw materials and machinery, reduced fuel prices for buyers similar to those extended to the public utility jeepneys (PUJs), reduced PhUV LTO registration and a government-led retail financing to make the PhUV affordable". [/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]They are also looking at asking for reduced excise tax for a PhUV unit that can run on alternative fuel, whether gasoline with ethanol (E5 or E10) or the biodiesel. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]They will also push for the government’s strict implementation of the Clean Air Act and the Motor Vehicle Inspection System to ensure a vehicle’s safety, roadworthiness and compliance to environmental standards. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]The industry noted that other Asean countries support their local car industry.. Thailand has a comprehensive package of incentives as it developed a niche market for the one-ton pickup truck and all its SUV derivatives. In the process, it not only grew its pickup truck industry as the biggest in Asia and second to the USA but also the support industries such as the local auto parts makers. [/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=1][SIZE=2]On the other hand, Malaysia even went to the extent of developing a National Car Program just to break into the international auto market and develop a strong and reliable auto parts industry[/SIZE][/SIZE]
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Lahat naman ng automobile development nag-umpisa sa problema...improve dito ..improve doon..hanggang naging maayos naman. Sakin lang OK na ang electric...Wala AIR POLLUTION at higit sa lahat di na tayo paglalaruan ng mga oil giants (tumaas ang langis sa world market, di pa nauubos yung nabili ng mahal kaya di pa pwede ibaba ang presyo). Imagine 380,000 barrels per day ang kunsumo ng Pilipinas. Mabawasan lang ng 50% malaking bagay na. Problema lang sa electric ang disposal ng battery pero me paraan naman basta me pondo lang.![]()
Kala ko yung unang mga statements mo para sa PHUV...hay...anyway...
Di nga tayo paglalaruan ng oil giants, pero ngayon mukhang pinaglalaruan na tayo ng Koreans....nagnenegosyo na walang permit, naninira ng mga boarding at rented houses...nagiging bastos na sa mga Pinoy......
at ng China.....Northrail.....poachers sa Palawan at Batanes....ZTE scandal....ngayon electric car na overprice ala pa piyesa......
Ngayon, di lang tayo pinaglalaruan ng mga foreign-owned oil giants, pinaglalaruan patayo ng Hapon, Koreano at China sa sarili nting bayan.
Ang galing nating pinoy...Yehey!!!!!Mabuhay ang mga foreigners!!!!...huh??
Last edited by dprox; July 11th, 2007 at 08:48 AM.
The PUJ operators and drivers of Makati have spoken, they are not interested in the e-jeepney.
hopefully, a more viable alternative to the all-imported e-jeepney should be conceptualized.
Why not an electric PHUV?
Last edited by dprox; May 7th, 2008 at 05:39 AM.
Sinagot ang panalangin ko.................
Group eyes electric PhUV
By Ronnel Domingo
Inquirer
Last updated 07:40am (Mla time) 08/01/2007
The Motor Vehicle Parts Manufacturers Association of the Philippines (MPVAP) announced it had teamed up with a Greenpeace-led group on an initiative to produce electric jeepneys.
Brought in from Guangzhou, China, two 12-seat e-jeepneys are being tested in Makati City and four others in Bacolod City.
The group, Green Renewable Independent Power Producer (GRIPP), plans to bring 44 more of the vehicles, which can run for 100 kilometers at up to 40kph with electricity from ordinary wall outlets. Charging takes eight to 10 hours.
MPVMAP vice president Pia Mirasol said Filipino parts makers had thrown their support behind the GRIPP efforts to make the e-jeepney project viable here and abroad.
The parts makers "provide GRIPP with technical assistance, such as product design, improvement and development, and the parts needed, to come up with a locally assembled version of the e-jeepney that would help make the project commercially viable and acceptable to the export market,” Mirasol said.
She added that MVPMAP would “fold in” the e-jeepney into its own Philippine Utility Vehicle (PhUV) Program so that its assembler, parts suppliers and buyers would get the benefits to be given the PhUV Program.
“We will call it the e-PhUV, and this would complement our other projects, such as the PhUV itself, public utility jeepney refleeting program and our One-Brand project,” Mirasol said.
Romski,
Improving the mileage includes better tires than doesnt have much drag. Aerodynamic body also helps it go further. Sana they hear this... hehehe...
Just my 2 cents.
Last edited by drey; August 2nd, 2007 at 06:52 PM.
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is this the chinese all stock version? bec if it is, for pete's sake we can do better than this ourselves, right?
lemme see...
minimize frontal drag by decreasing steepness angle upfront (more curves if you may) and relocate the spare wheel somewhere like behind
is that a laminated glass windshield or perspex which is a third lighter?
open air and no a/c- airy, yes but has significant drag and not so nice during showers.
reshape those funny looking fenders
rework on those flashlight sized headlights
change the motif, the vehicle should be evident that it is pilipino. it should be a moving advertisement/s
change the wheels?
I got this from Philippine Star. Now, with the MOve of both Greenpeace and MVPMAP to LOCALIZE the NEW E-JEEPNEY--Isa na ako sa masugid na tagasuporta ng E-PHUV!!!
For The Philippines and Mother Earth!!!!!
RP-made electric jeepneys eyed for export to Asian neighbors
By Ma. Elisa P. Osorio
Sunday, August 5, 2007 The locally-assembled electric jeepney (E-jeepney) will likely be exported to neighboring Asian countries after local auto parts makers said they will help make the project commercially viable.
The Motor Vehicle Parts Manufacturers Association of the Philippines (MVPMAP) said they will support the project proponent, Green Renewable Independent Power Producer (GRIPP), in localizing the assembly of the pollution-free public transport vehicle.
“We will call it the E-PhUV and this will complement our other projects such as the PhUV (Philippine utility vehicle) itself, PUJ (public utility jeep) refleeting program and our One-Brand Project,” MVPMAP vice president Pia Mirasol said.
Currently, two units of the E-Jeepney are being pilot tested in Makati CityBacolod. while four others are being tested in
The engine of the 12-seater E-Jeepneys are imported from Guangzhou, China. When charged in an ordinary wall outlet for eight to 10 hours, the E-Jeepney could run for 100 kilometers at a maximum speed of 40 kph.
Mirasol said the MVPMAP agreed to support GRIPP in localizing the assembly of the E-Jeepney and in making the project viable and replicable, not only domestically but also internationally.
She said the association will provide technical assistance such as product design, improvement and provide development and provide the parts needed to come up with a locally-assembled version of the E-Jeepney that would help make the project commercially viable and acceptable to the export market.
Mirasol explained that MVPMAP will fold in the E-Jeepney into its own PhUV program so that its assembler, local parts suppliers and buyers will also receive the same benefits given to the local program.
GRIPP’s E-Jeepney is one of three components of Greenpeace’s Climate Friendly Cities Program, an integrated strategy for promoting sustainable transport and waste management through the use of renewable energy-based technologies. The two other components are a depot that will serve as a charging station and maintenance center for the fleet and a power plant consisting of a generator, a solid anaerobic biodigester and a gas engine from which electricity will be generated from organic wastes
”We not only reduce pollution but also minimize organic wastes by putting them into good use. Furthermore, this E-PhUV project will provide additional livelihood to over 50,000 direct workers dependent on the local parts making industry for survival”, Mirasol said.
Last edited by dprox; November 13th, 2007 at 04:15 AM.
[SIZE="1"]DESIGN is the missing link in the Philippine auto industry.[/SIZE]
I'm all for making the e-Jeepney a truly pinoy made product, even if its fabricators are generally foreign. Pardon me for observing, however, that the design development of the vehicle is incomplete for Philippine use. It is environment-friendly, but until certain issues are addressed and resolved, it remains passenger-hostile.
We all know what killed Sarao. It was the FX and its airconditioning. People chose to ride the FX because of its thermal comfort and filtered air. Aside from the speed factor, the FX basically provided protection from the elements: air and noise pollution, heat and humidity, wind and rain. The e-Jeepney provides NONE of these -- so far.
The globe is warming, and Metro Manila is asthma country. People will try out the e-Jeepney for the novelty of it, but will soon listen to their lungs. I for one would hate to be trailing a smoke belcher, or passing near a puddle while riding an e-Jeepney.
The designers appear to have stopped midstream as soon as they saw that the green technology was already workable. Solarco president Robert Puckett affirms: “This is just to keep people aware and open their minds that there are alternative engines -- we’re not talking about bodies but engines -- in a market that can clean the environment” (PDI, July 5). It is a serious mistake for designers to focus primarily on the contraption or machine, instead of providing for the people who are supposed to use it.
In its present form, this concept vehicle is more appropriate for theme parks and highly sanitized (European) historical centers where traffic of combustion engine vehicles is highly restricted and clean air laws are observed to the last iota. Its present specs define a generic electric vehicle, and it seems to have been labelled with a Pinoy name - jeepney - (like the Indonesian Kijang was renamed "Tamamraw FX") just to capture the Philippine market.
Bottomline: Government has to be more serious about going after belchers and cleaning up the air, while the electric utility vehicle designers need to be more humane in finalizing their incomplete e-Jeepney design.
The project is laudable. Sayang naman if they don't carry it to completion.
Last edited by dprox; August 5th, 2007 at 11:26 PM.
[SIZE="1"]DESIGN is the missing link in the Philippine auto industry.[/SIZE]
yes you can! and it's high time someone did this... bakit greenpeace pa ang gumawa di ba?
the idea of Greenpeace is to sell the concept here in the Philippines simply to move the country towards using renewable energy. wala naman pera ang greenpeace masyado so those jeeps launched in makati are not the best in terms of electric vehicles.. may mas hi-tech pa dyan. this e-jeep will be tested for 6 months...madami pang kelangan gawin, pwedeng baguhin at ayusin. these aren't for business purposes either.
so far, makati and bacolod city have committed to doing this. si bacolod underway na ang talks for the bio-waste plant. this will produce jobs too. plus this was all done putting into consideration the future role of the jeepney operators etc.
let's not put it down please ...
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regarding bio-diesel...in it's own right...it is a good thing because it is cleaner...unfortunately, the big manufacturers of biodiesel are denuding the indonesian forests to plant palm oil to make biodiesel... they are chopping down trees at a rate of 300 football fields an hour. hard to believe? it's a guinness book world record. so technically, this seems better to help solve global warming, but given that this directly causes climate change from all the chopping of the trees...what now is our option?
on the other hand, if you go electric...it saves us on the pollution part...but plugging into the electric grid, if fired by a coal plant..ganun din..coal is the no.1 contributor to climate change. your option now is either electric, but from a renewable source...or if you really want to keep your gasoline engines..then go for smaller engine capacity.
mahirap to go green! nakakaloka!!!
It's not just Greenpeace, but Solarco a viable alternative energy enterprise that is behind this laudable(but incomplete
) venture. They have the resources to fully develop the vehicle. The question is whether they have the awareness and the talent to do so.
Nobody is putting it down. In fact, I can assure you that anybody who opposes this effort will be off-topic in this thread. Tsikot Design & Research Forum is here precisely to foster and cultivate filipino-designed vehicles, translation: to give positive design and styling recommendations on how to improve and complete worthy projects.so far, makati and bacolod city have committed to doing this. si bacolod underway na ang talks for the bio-waste plant. this will produce jobs too. plus this was all done putting into consideration the future role of the jeepney operators etc.
let's not put it down please ...
Option? Hmmm.regarding bio-diesel...in it's own right...it is a good thing because it is cleaner...unfortunately, the big manufacturers of biodiesel are denuding the indonesian forests to plant palm oil to make biodiesel... they are chopping down trees at a rate of 300 football fields an hour. hard to believe? it's a guinness book world record. so technically, this seems better to help solve global warming, but given that this directly causes climate change from all the chopping of the trees...what now is our option?
I guess you chop the heads off those who don't display any sign of having brains.>[SIZE="1"]JOKE[/SIZE]<
We shouldn't lose heart. I checked out Solarco (apparently an MNC, but with significant roots in the Philippines) and found its alternative energy research, operations and prospects to be very encouraging. Mukhang OK naman sila. Seems they'd rather look up to the sun rather than disturb the earth. :thumbup:on the other hand, if you go electric...it saves us on the pollution part...but plugging into the electric grid, if fired by a coal plant..ganun din..coal is the no.1 contributor to climate change. your option now is either electric, but from a renewable source...or if you really want to keep your gasoline engines..then go for smaller engine capacity.
mahirap to go green! nakakaloka!!!
Although as you say "nakakaloka" ang green technology, with outfits like them, we can look forward and expect our dependence on fossil fuels to diminish ... gradually.
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Last edited by dprox; August 11th, 2007 at 03:45 AM.
[SIZE="1"]DESIGN is the missing link in the Philippine auto industry.[/SIZE]
Actually Greenpeace has it pretty much covered. They set-up a company partnered with Solarco called Gripp. This company has gotten a grant from the Dutch government, so may pera sila. They put up Gripp just to make sure the program is launched properly and that it becomes commercially viable.
The electric jeepney is just one part of the program. They also plan to put up charging stations and a biodigester depot that will get its power from our garbage. So that solves the coal plant issue.
This project is well thought of and it took them 3 years to research.
Ill try to get more info from my friend in Greenpeace and post it here.
All true!
I say 'nakakaloka' because actually trying to change your habits or go as green as you can is so difficult. Especially more so if you are the obsessive compulsive type. Pero OT na yan. Sorry.
So back to jeeps. The Dutch grant mentioned was for the whole study and the production of the prototype jeeps. But from hereon it is really up to the local municipalities to make this real. Bacolod is the first city to commit to Greenpeace & Gripp to be the 1st Green City in the Philippines. Now after seeing the electric jeepney, Binay wants a ride on the environment bandwagon. Let's watch Bacolod and Makati race towards this.