MMDA to lead EDSA blessing today, to lessen accidents

[Monseratto]

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MMDA traffic experiment turns ugly

A new MMDA directive banning buses and other vehicles from using flyovers and underpasses along EDSA turns into a horrendous two-kilometer stretch of bumper-to-bumper traffic from EDSA Roosevelt up to EDSA Quezon Avenue in Quezon City on Monday.

[vinj]

+1 I thought I was seeing things! Sana araw-araw ganon but I can only dream.

Wishful thinking nga. Daming MMDA enforcers standing like pylons/cones at the flyover/underpass entrances, directing the buses up. Let's hope that they stay that way since before, the enforcers position themselves AFTER the flyover/underpass to catch and make kotong-kotong the bus drivers who already went off the yellow lanes. Tignan din natin anong effect mamayang uwian at pag late night na, usually the time when buses break all laws at will.

[chua_riwap]

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kung anu-ano nang experimento kasi ginagawa ng MMDA........

[pop3corn]

kung anu-ano nang experimento kasi ginagawa ng MMDA........

sinasadya kasi nila yan eh yun lalo patagal sa ilalim ng flyover para magtagal. We should support the banning of buses sa flyovers/underpass. The smooth flow from guadalupe to Santolan ibig sabhin LNG the ban worked. Tago kse yun sa Ortigas and crossing flyovers, kaya dun sila nag-sabotage ng traffic. At Dahil na din may intersection pa dito. They should implement the u turn scheme tulad ng sa baba ng east ave or UN ave flyovers to ensure movement sa ibaba.

The stop light is their friend, remove that kikilos yan coz wala na sila alibi pa.

[donbuggy]

Too many buses.

[pop3corn]

bakit ba hinde magkarun ng power play dyan sa ownership ng buses, yun tipong 1 or 2 companies ang may-ari ng buses sa EDSA. parang may kinausap ang gobyerno 1 or 2 na lang na kumpanya. nakakarinde eh dami-dami nila, rule of the mob.

sabi sa news kumikita daw ng P1000 per driver kakakuha ng pasahero sa boundary. P1000 x 3500 buses = P3,500,000 / day ang umiikot sa bus drivers. sa driver pa lang eh magkano boundary ng operator, say lagay na natin sa P3000 per bus per day + yan P1000 ni driver.

so P4000 / bus / day x 3500 buses (number of buses plying EDSA accdg. to MMDA) = 14,000,000.00 / day x 30 days = 420M per month ang pera na umiikot sa EDSA bus business pa lang.

siguro naman yan 420M per month is decent enough for a major corporation to take over. say 2 corporations, tig 210M sila. ok pa din.

para wala ng anarchy, and the government will only talk to two bus corporations.

[foresterx]

i really like the idea and especially the non traffic at edsa from santolan to makati going home. kaya lang naman nag traffic from north ave to cubao kasi yung mga bus halos lahat ng lane kinuha bago mag flyover. kaya tuloy mga private cars na pwede sa ibabaw ipit tuloy tuwing bago mag flyover.

[Monseratto]

Simply too much buses... Bet that more than half of them aren't half full.

[vinj]

So far based on my route, traffic flow is still better. Yes bumabagal as we approach some flyovers/underpasses but it's clear as you pass those lined up buses.

[pop3corn]

Simply too much buses... Bet that more than half of them aren't half full.

kasalanan nyo kasi ni *uls yan eh. lagi kayo nag-speculate sa oil, ang gusto nyo tumaas ang oil.

pag tumaas ang oil, tataas ang pamasahe proportionally. what the public doesn't know eh ang increase ng pamasahe in proportional to to rising oil prices, eh mas lalo kumikita ang bus operators, so ngaun tingin ko kahit 1/3 puno ang bus lalarga yan eh

take for example an aircon bus, ano ba minimum ngaun? 15.00 ba? say 15.00 x ilan sakay ng bus, 40 = P600 minimum na kita nila sa isang puno. tapos diesel say from P37 pesos naging P40.00. so a 3.00 increase. tapos lobby sila, lugi daw sila, yun 15.00 maging 17.00 for a P2.00 hike. 2x4 = 80.00 increase wow, minimum per 7 kilometers. say 7km/liter ang diesel bus


kaya ganyan ka-lucrative ang bus operation eh. noon kasi less than P20.00 lang ang fuel like in the 90's, there were less buses in EDSA. pansin ko pag lalo tumataas oil, lalo dumadami bus. which is not logical di'ba kasi dapat mag-bawas pag tumataas ang oil, coz to become more efficient.

eh pano, tinataas din ang price ng fare. it's even more beneficial for them na lalo pa sana itaas ang oil, so that citizens can't afford anymore to bring cars and ride buses. therefore, more customers.

eto ang dahilan kaya minabuti ko na makatira sa condo near my place of work. coz even if i drive a car, andyan pa din ang buses kasi lucrative nga eh, kahit 1/3 puno lang larga na. and they saturate edsa.

. I won't be part of that man-made rat race na kokotongan ako everyday ng populist bus drivers and profiteering bus operators. and also sacrificing my productivity and sanity of wasting so much time on a useless road of dumb people.

[timrev]

sana kasi mawala ng talaga yun mga kolorum na bus, kabit, bulok na bus, tska mga kotong cops,mmda, traffic officer
hay...wild dream nalang ata na wala sila sa daan!

[foresterx]

Simply too much buses... Bet that more than half of them aren't half full.

yan yung sinasabi ko, tingnan niyo ilan lanes na lang ang natira dahil naka harang ang mga t*rantadong mga bus na yan. di ko maintindihan bakit hindi hulihin ng mga TE yan. araw araw ganyan yan mga bus na yan kahit nung di pa na implement ang bus lane.

and i agree sa dami ng bus na yan di naman lahat yan na pupuno kahit rush hour. ilan years din ako araw araw nag cocomute gamit ang bus from fairview-cubao-makati and back kaya alam ko sinasabi ko.

[Monseratto]

The goverment knows EDSA can only hold 1,500 buses but yet allowed 6,000 or more to run. And yet they keep scratching their heads on how to ease traffic... stupid is as stupid does.

[donbuggy]

Look at the lower left of that photo. The left lane disappears! An example of bad road design.

If Filipino engineers are that dumb, how can they find a solution to the traffic problem?

[Monseratto]

There are a lot choke points in Edsa were 6 lanes disappear to two, like the part in buendia and then the cubao underpass entrance.

[vinj]

EDSA was hell from Makati to Ortigas last night... after Ortigas sobrang luwag na.

[crazy_boy]

There are a lot choke points in Edsa were 6 lanes disappear to two, like the part in buendia and then the cubao underpass entrance.

Is there something that the mmda can do about this? Sa buendia kasi its the overpass pillars thats causing the bottleneck. It took 1 lane
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[pop3corn]

the only way that this EDSA problem will be solved is the buses talaga. sila lang ang problema.

the EDSA buses profiteering problem kasi is still reminiscent of the old Las Vegas setup eh, ang dami-dami players kasi walang regulation. so mga organized crime from Chicago, New York, Miami etc. kanya-kanya kita. and then nagkaron balancing effect, of course the killings of families na na nagbenefit duon pero look at what Vegas now. parang dalawang malaking kumpanya na lang nagko-kontrol dun. and there is order. the same is true with macao, it's Stanley Ho vs. the Vegas Casinos. two controllers parang 2-party system ng govts.

dito sa EDSA bus problem tingin ko talaga dapat magkarun ng balancing effect, and since it's mostly anarchy, baka nga yun mga buses niya eh controlled ng iba't ibang sindikato and so ang gulo-gulo. dapat magkarun ng power struggle, yun 2 pinakamalakas at powerful ang mag-prevail.

imagine mali pala yun 3,500 buses na sinabi ko earlier, 6,000 buses pala ang umiikot sa EDSA. ngaun. so halos short yun 420M per month na umiikot na pera sa EDSA. almost double siguro, lagay na lang na'tin sa P700M per month. or that's Php 8.4B anually.



putsa 2 power powers at 4B each, not bad. eh sa pasahe lang yun. these companies can also earn if they produce their own buses. ang mura kaya ng King Long Bus, ang dami neto so Macau, shuttle eto sa Casinos eh. so why bother manufacturing our own.

so yun na lang, yan ang makasolve dyan. magkarun ng power play. of course, there will be killings, pero pahirap naman sila sa mga mamayan at motorista so we can just turn a blind eye. pag nalinis na, then we support the top 2 survivors. and therefore there will be order

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btw, mayroon nga ako kakilala apo na sa tuhod yan ng isang malaking bus company dito sa'tin, since 70's pa ata yun lolo sa bus business. they have buses in edsa and the buses plying dyan sa sta mesa ba yun

tuwing nakikita ko, lagi may bago ipad, iphone, macbook, car, sa fb lagi travel sa europe, US, HK, SG etc. mind you, may mga anak na din ito matanda na din. si tigi-tigisa sila.

kung minsan gusto ko sabihin, hindi nyo ba naiisip pasarap kayo ng pasarap lagi tapos buong sambayanan hirap na hirap araw-araw para lang makabiyahe with lost productivity and nagkakasakit dahil sa stress, tapos kayo pasarap lang dyan. and hindi lang mga mahihirap na tao ang affected nyo, kungdi lahat, middle, working, and rich also, kasi lahat bumibiyahe eh.

ewan siguro one of these days, baka sabihin. but I have this feeling na magkakarun din ng karma etong mga ito.

[donbuggy]

This type of intersection will improve the flow of traffic at EDSA:

[niky]

Good luck evicting the big buildings standing at those spots at some places. One is a People Power shrine, another is a government building. And yet another is a powerful TV station...

If only we could...

Edit... Underground pala... Still, the problem is the basement parking and foundations in those areas... Lots of stuff to get in the way of the depots.

What would work out is simply a proper queueing and dispatch system. Simply to match the number of buses at each stop with the number of passengers... Which minimizes the stationary time of each bus and speeds up traffic flow.