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    Default Coast Guard admits killing Taiwanese fisherman, claims self-defense

    Hope this does not escalate into a major incident and Pnoy won't whitewash it like the Quirino Grandstand debacle...dami pa naman OFWs sa Taiwan.

    By: Abigail Kwok,

    MANILA, Philippines - (UPDATE - 12:03 p.m.) The Philippine Coast Guard on Friday admitted responsibility for the death of a Taiwanese fisherman off the coast of Batanes the day before, but said its personnel acted in self-defense when the foreign fishing vessel attempted to ram one of its ships.

    A report by Radio Station DZMM said PCG commandant Admiral Rodolfo Isorena has ordered a thorough investigation of the incident in which Taiwanese fisherman as Hung Shih-Cheng, 65, died.

    The report said the Coast Guard ship BFAR MCS 3001 fired at the fishing vessel "Guang Ta Hsin 28" which had a crew of three Taiwanese and an Indonesian some 164 nautical miles off Balintang Channel.

    The PCG ship was attempting to accost the Guang Ta Hsin 28 and two other Taiwanese vessels.

    However, the Guang Ta Hsin 28 reportedly headed for the PCG vessel to ram it, prompting its crew to open fire.

    Earlier, Chinese media reported the incident involved the Philippine Navy.

    The Navy denied any involvement and said all vessels of Naval Forces Northern Luzon were in port at Subic or in Sual, Pangasinan.

    "The Philippine Navy denies any involvement in, much as we were saddened by, the news about an incident where a Taiwanese fisherman was reportedly shot and the wound led to his death," Navy spokesman on the West Philippine Sea, Colonel Edgard Arevalo, said.

    A report run by the Chinese news agency Xinhua, quoted Tsay Tzu-yaw, deputy head of Taiwan's fishery administration, as saying a Philippine military ship opened fire on the fishing boat some 180 nautical miles off Erluanbi, the southernmost tip of Taiwan.

    The Xinhua report also said the Filipino ship continued to chase and fire at the fleeing Taiwanese vessel, which sustained heavy damage.

    “We strongly protest and condemn that a Philippine government boat attacked our fishing boat and demand the Philippines formally apologize, apprehend the murderer and compensate,” a statement from Taiwan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said.

    Asked about the report, Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario said: "We cannot confirm it. We will check that."

    The Philippine Navy on Friday denied reports in Chinese media that its personnel killed a Taiwanese fisherman Thursday morning.

    The Philippines and Taiwan, along with Brunei, China and Malaysia, have conflicting claims to parts of the South China Sea.

    China and Taiwan have been ruled separately since the end of a civil war in 1949, although Beijing claims the island. The Philippines has no diplomatic ties with Taiwan but maintains economic and cultural links. (with a report from Jaime Sinapit, InterAksyon.com and Agence France-Presse)


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    Default Re: Coast Guard admits killing Taiwanese fisherman, claims self-defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Hope this does not escalate into a major incident and Pnoy won't whitewash it like the Quirino Grandstand debacle...dami pa naman OFWs sa Taiwan.
    If the PCG's version of the events were true, then it had every right to fire upon the fishing vessel in self defense.

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    Yung mga comments sa FB shows a lot of ignorants who couldn't tell the difference between ROC Taiwan and PROC...

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    Hmm...instead of calling for reinforcement, the PCG apparently hightailed and left the area. Is that proper procedure??? And it took quite sometime for the Philippines goverment to report the incident. The publicity hungry DFA seemed to not know what happened...Something fishy...

    Balilo said the 30-meter (100-foot) coast guard vessel initially saw two fishing vessels and tried to approach them. He said the coastguard crew fired at the smaller of the two vessels after it tried to ram the Filipino boat.

    “They fired at the machinery to disable it. They were able to disable the vessel although they were not aware at the time that somebody had been hit,” he said.

    Balilo said the coast guard quickly left the area after it saw a third vessel, “a big white ship”, come into view.

    “Our people felt threatened so they left the area,” he said.

    Hung Yu-chih, the captain of the boat who is also the dead man’s son, told the China Times that Philippine gunmen fired several shots at them.
    He said one of the shots hit the fuel tank of the vessel, which had only four people on board.

    A separate report on Taipei Times said the vessel was operating at around 164 nautical miles (304 km) southeast of Oluanpi in Pingtung County.

    It quoted the Coast Guard as saying a 2,000-ton ship equipped with an automatic cannon and two 50mm machine guns had been dispatched, which arrived at 7 p.m. Thursday.

    The vessel was to accompany the Kuang Ta Hsing No. 28 as it waits for a tow back to port Friday.

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    Default Re: Coast Guard admits killing Taiwanese fisherman, claims self-defense

    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Hmm...instead of calling for reinforcement, the PCG apparently hightailed and left the area. Is that proper procedure??? And it took quite sometime for the Philippines goverment to report the incident. The publicity hungry DFA seemed to not know what happened...Something fishy...

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    fscking noobs is what they are.

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    Default Re: Coast Guard admits killing Taiwanese fisherman, claims self-defense

    meron pambili ng bala ang coast guard pero walang pambili ng video camera para i-record ung mga pangyayari.

    kasi kung meron silang video na babanggain nga sila ng nung maliit na barko at in self-defence kaya sila nag open fire, valid reason ung ginawa nila.

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    Prepare for another influx of OFWs from Taiwan... Do you honestly think the PNoy government can investigate clean and honestly...? Quirino Grandstand repeat? Taiwan is an even closer allies of the US than the Philippines.

    Taiwan mulls sanctions vs Philippines in wake of fisherman's death
    By: Agence France-Presse
    May 11, 2013 2:57 PM



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    TAIPEI - (UPDATE 5:08PM) President Ma Ying-jeou said Saturday Taiwan would consider sanctions against the Philippines amid widespread public outrage at Manila over the shooting of a Taiwanese fisherman.

    "We will definitely seek justice for our fisherman. We will not rule out the possibility of taking any kind of sanctions" against the Philippines, Ma said while inspecting a coast guard drill in central Taiwan.

    "The Philippines shot an unarmed fishing boat. This is very brutal and cold-blooded," he said, reiterating Taipei's demand for Manila to apologize, apprehend the killer and compensate.

    Some Taiwanese lawmakers urged the government to freeze the hiring of Philippine workers to protest after the Philippines admitted its coast guard had fired at a Taiwanese fishing boat.

    There are around 80,000 Filipinos working in Taiwan, mostly in manufacturing or as caregivers.

    Taiwanese authorities said 65-year-old fisherman Hung Shih-cheng was killed during the incident, which also left the boat riddled with more than 50 bullet holes.

    'Transparent, impartial' inquiry vowed

    Abigail Valte, a spokeswoman for Philippine President Benigno Aquino, told a government radio station that authorities had launched a "transparent and impartial investigation" into the incident.

    She expressed hopes that economic ties with Taipei will not be affected and added that the coastguard crew involved in the incident have been temporarily suspended to ensure a fair probe.

    "Let's wait for the investigation," Aquino's spokesman Ricky Carandang told AFP when asked to comment on Taiwan's sanctions threat.

    Pressure from opposition

    Ma's government has come under pressure from the opposition and the media to take action, with the Philippines refusing to apologize and saying the coast guard was tackling illegal fishing.

    Philippine coastguard spokesman Commander Armand Balilo said the incident took place in Philippine waters and the Filipino personnel had been properly carrying out their duties to stop illegal fishing.

    "If somebody died, they deserve our sympathy but not an apology," Balilo told reporters.

    Hung's son has insisted that the boat did not cross into Philippine waters.

    The Taipei-based China Times called the incident a "criminal case" and demanded Manila shoulder the full responsibility.

    "The Philippines' uncivilized action apparently violated maritime convention, the Taiwan government must take strong counter moves to defend our fishermen's rights and prevent similar tragedy," it said in an editorial.

    The Apple Daily newspaper called the shooting "an act of brigands" and said Taiwanese people "angrily demand the blood debt be paid."

    Some Taiwanese Internet users allegedly attacked and temporarily paralyzed several Philippine government websites Friday night, according to Apple Daily.

    The incident comes at a time of heightened tensions around the region over rival claims to the nearby South China Sea.

    China, the Philippines, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei all have competing claims to parts of the sea.

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    Default Re: Coast Guard admits killing Taiwanese fisherman, claims self-defense

    Typical Pinoy with gun mentality. Shoot first ask later.

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    Default Re: Coast Guard admits killing Taiwanese fisherman, claims self-defense

    Ang sa akin...they PCG is in the position to shoot. PCG will never patrol outside Philippine water teritory kasi kulang pang gas nila to be just making a trip outside their area.

    What if they were not fishermen (drug smuggler pala)...so if they seeemed that they will ram their boat...they will really retaliate with firepower!

    Ang boat ng mga taiwanese fishermen ay mas matindi pa kaysa sa mga fleet ng PCG

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    Default Re: Coast Guard admits killing Taiwanese fisherman, claims self-defense

    Kung hinabol pa niya at pinutukan, then he cannot claim self defense.


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