Mazda B-Series (B2200/B2500)

[duskylim]

Dear Sirs:

Lately my B2500 suddenly got hard starting, I know this symptom from before, problem with the glow plugs.

So without thinking, punta ako Binondo where there is a large supplier (Isuzu Parts of Benavidez St.) of Kitahara glow plugs (my preferred brand) and who claims to be the importer.

The original specs call for a PZ-30 series glow plug pero na-ubusan na sila. So I settled on a set of PZ-35 plugs. The salesman signed the boxes and off I went to install them.

Next day, ganun pa din, hard starting pa din, even with the new plugs. So I checked the entire glow system. Turned out that the glow relay had burned out.

Bumili ako so Ford Master sa Banawe ng replacement for a KIA van, salpak naman and even the terminals match the B2500.

Kinabit ko yung bagong relay and tried it out, lo and behold - hard starting pa din!

I checked the terminals and they had burned out - so I replaced the wiring and terminals (which are a large type and difficult to find - I bought them at the outrageous price of Php 20 each at Wizzard).

After I had done all that, medyo suko na din ako and I prepared to bring the thing to an old electrician friend of mine in Cubao - called West Crame Auto Electrical (look for Mang Jessie).

Just before I left I resolved to by-pass all the wiring and clamped the positive supply of my battery charger to the positive rail nut of the glow plugs and the negative supply to the closest bolt head on the cylinder head - di dapat uminit na yung mga bagong glow plugs - BUT to my surprise - NOTHING HAPPENED!!!

I dismantled the so-called "NEW" glow plugs and what do you know - PATAY LAHAT!!!

I installed the old glow plugs (Kitahara 12 volt PZ-30's from Fordmaster) and the damn thing fired up in 5 seconds flat.

It turns out the glow plugs were fine, only the relay and the terminals were bad, the malfunctioning "NEW" plugs had fooled me all along.

After all that, I took the useless "NEW" glow plugs back to Isuzu Parts (from Fairview to Binondo pa) and asked for replacement or refund. They made me wait an hour and then told me that the owner was in a meeting so I went to have lunch.

After lunch I went back to Isuzu Parts and the owner told me that the store policy is No Return, No Exchange for electrical parts - kahit dalhin mo pa ito sa Bureau of Trade and Industry!!!

He even got insulting and patronizing after that. I will not repeat what he said but suffice to say he has very poor customer relations.

He said he has this shop run by a Japanese engineer in A. Bonifacio and I had to have my vehicle inspected by him to see what happened.

If the Japanese did not find anything wrong he would even charge me a service and an inspection fee.

He made me a fan of the death penalty that day, and fulfilled every bad cliche of the abusive Chinese merchant - and I'm Chinese!!!

This person is one of the worst people I have ever met - I am telling this story so that you do not suffer like I did.

This was not a very happy new year for me.

Sincerely,

Dusky Lim

PS - sa EB I will bring samples of my diesel fuel addy for trials and some for sale.

[redvegetarian]

hi mga sir! its been a long time. medyo busy e. May problema pa rin yung engine ng B2200 ko. Pag start sa umaga parang pupugak pugak. May possibility kaya ng injection pump ulit after changing injectors and complete overhaul ng injection pump? thanks in advance. Sana matuloy yung EB. Mga sir anu ba ng original na itsura ng intake manifold assembly ng B2200. Converted na kasi yung akin nung nabili ko. Thanks in advance.


regards,

redvegetarian

[4JGtootsie]

hi mga sir! its been a long time. medyo busy e. May problema pa rin yung engine ng B2200 ko. Pag start sa umaga parang pupugak pugak. May possibility kaya ng injection pump ulit after changing injectors and complete overhaul ng injection pump? thanks in advance. Sana matuloy yung EB. Mga sir anu ba ng original na itsura ng intake manifold assembly ng B2200. Converted na kasi yung akin nung nabili ko. Thanks in advance.


regards,

redvegetarian

Pag complete overhaul na injection pump and injectors dapat Ok na yan, balik mo sa gumawa at pa check mo kung hinahangin, barado fuel lines, contaminated fuel.

[redvegetarian]

oo nga sir e. Sakit sa ulo. Dalin ko ulit dun sa gumawa. Try ko din palitan yung glow plugs. TY sa advise sir.

[duskylim]

Dear Redvegetarian:

Given my horrible experience with Isuzu Parts in Benavidez, I have some advice for you (and anyone else) when buying glow plugs.

Never buy from a store that will not allow you to test them. As my sad experience shows, unscrupulous retailers (read mga ahente) can and will sell you defective products and blame you pa for any problems that arise.

The best way to test a glow plug is to ground the body (negative) and apply a low-amperage supply to the positive terminal (12 volts DC, around 3 to 5 Amperes) this is enough to start heating the tip and confirm that the plugs actually work without supplying enough amperage to make them glow red.

I have found that the standard trickle charger provides around this amount of current.

Note: supplying the rated amperage (around 10 to 15 amperes per glow plug) will make the tip glow red, but if you apply the current for too long (without the cutout timer) you may overheat and damage the plug.

You can also check out your glow relay - which can be replaced if defective with the same model from a KIA van or a Hyundai Starex.

Please feel free to tell us what happened or to seek advice.

Best Regards,

Dusky Lim

[redvegetarian]

I have another question guys. Im thinking it could be air in the fuel lines. What's the best way to clear air in the fuel lines? I have tried bleeding through the primer pump before the injection pump. Any other ideas? Thanks in advance.

[djBADUY]

mga sirs,
pahabol po ng happy holidays.medyo naging busy po kasi.ako naging runner sa sa house namin,ng parents ko,pati inlaws.anyway,inabot po ko ng malas before the holidays kaya hindi ako nakakapost.nabali po molye sa likot.may crack na pala talaga(1992 pa kasi).so, ayun,swerte may nakuha po na kasize.pinaltan ko na din po apat na shocks.kyb po kasi sbi sakin ok daw yun.so far,happy po ko sa ride at no worries po ulit kargahan.wala na po yung thermostat at naglagay na din po ko ng coolant.yung whiz.ok ba yun?nakita ko po yung b22oo ng barkada ko wala din po yung pang advance ng idle yung kanya ang weird nga eh.pero may nakita po ko sa internet na pics ng meron yung ibang b2200.wla po ko makita dito sa cavite na kasukat na bracket para dun sa vacuum.so ngaun hunting po ko ng mga nakajunk na b2200 baka may makuha.pero kung may alam po kayo na bilihan.maraming salamat po.oh,by the way nga pala,hindi po masyado nagiinit ngayon with the coolant.pero hindi pa naman po ko nastuck s traffic ng matagal.as far as heavy loads,ok na ok sya.
salamat po sa tulong....more power sa inyo.

[redvegetarian]

Hi! We have the same issue hehe. My ride does not have an idle up actuator also. Nanginginig pag bukas ng aircon. Up to now, i am still searching for one. Let me know if you find one and Ill let you know if I find one

[bborces]

Dear Redvegetarian:

Given my horrible experience with Isuzu Parts in Benavidez, I have some advice for you (and anyone else) when buying glow plugs.

Never buy from a store that will not allow you to test them. As my sad experience shows, unscrupulous retailers (read mga ahente) can and will sell you defective products and blame you pa for any problems that arise.

Best Regards,

Dusky Lim

Rest assured sir Dusky that we will not buy from this particular store.

[bborces]

Hi! We have the same issue hehe. My ride does not have an idle up actuator also. Nanginginig pag bukas ng aircon. Up to now, i am still searching for one. Let me know if you find one and Ill let you know if I find one

Bro try nyo check sa AUTORAMA sa Banawe.