how do lexus cars really compare to european cars?

[lowslowbenz]

.... That and their rich history is what makes them a step ahead of their Japanese counterpart - just my opinion.

Which is true.

[ZENMasterTYL]

lunch break muna tayo guys ha.

mahirap mag backread eh

[x_outpost]

The other thing I want to reiterate is the quality of materials on Euro cars.
I've seen the "leathers" on older Lexus LS400 and they all crack.
Also when Euro cars put wood, it is real wood or wood veneer - not fake wood accents.
When they put aluminum, its real aluminum and not aluminum-looking plastics.

Don't get me wrong, Euro cars use plastic but a lot of times, they use matte or soft plastics and not shiny or hard plastics.
For most people, these are non-issue but since the OP is asking about comparison, these may or may not be important to him.

[x_outpost]

lunch break muna tayo guys ha.

mahirap mag backread eh

I already had them on my ignore list Zen, I'm sorry to disappoint you but they both are not worth my time.

[uls]

1230am US east coast

gising pa siya sa oras na ito para maka-interact mga pinoy dito sa Pinas

mas ok kasi ka-interact mga pinoy dito kesa mga pinoy sa states

hahaha

#homesick

[jhnkvn]

Just because you don't care what parts are inside your car doesn't mean everyone doesn't care.
Let me ask you this, you sound like you have owned a lot of premium cars, what premium cars have YOU owned in the past or currently own?
In my experience, a lot of forum peeps just say whatever they perceive and they state it like it was a fact. I'm curious if you have any first hand experience about owning a premium car (and maybe a premium car that shares parts with a "cheaper" brand).

I drive around in a Hyundai as a matter of factly. For me, that's already a premium car.. I mean, my Sonata doesn't feel cheap at all. It might not be Bentley, but I probably would get it over a 3-series BMW in terms of practicality. In local costs, my Sonata costs just a shy 1.6M pesos in our local currency. To have an idea how much "expensive" cars here is, a Porsche will be slotting in at 7 million pesos or around around three times as more as their $50,500 sticker price in the US. Even if I have that kind of cash and even if I wanted to, it's just pointless to purchase one. First, you'll see the BIR checking your assets and you'll be subject to all these graft and corruption in their offices. Second, I don't need it. Third, like you.. I dislike paying for uber-marked up parts and services. So I'll simply spare myself of the hassle.

I do not own a lot, but I have been driven around a lot. As with niky, I was raised in a rich family. We're simply low key because we're content being one. All you'll see in our garages are Japanese vehicles: Civics, the Corolla, the occasional Ford Expeditions and Land Cruisers. Just because you don't drive around in one or have owned them makes the experience less special. I've been chauffeured by cars that's well.. the topic of this thread really more so than you imagine. I can still remember how subtle the leather in Lexus LX feels or how the S-class is like a rolling miniature land yacht.. or maybe because I'm being chauffeured in Hong Kong and not in the Philippines.

Just because I am young doesn't mean it's right to discredit my opinions. After all, age is simply a number. Want a calling card of the current CEO of Giordano? Esprit? or a picture with China's First Premier Zhang Gaoli who's one of the few in their time who graduated from college? I've been going to Hong Kong for private banking matters ever since I was in high school, so familiar in fact I can give you details. UBS occupies 2IFC's 45-52nd floors.. or that they name their meeting places with capitals of Asian countries ("Right now, I'm in Manila" where Manila's the meeting room name). Or how HSBC's Wealth Management is at the 5th floor of HSBC Tower? I could give you equivalents from Bank of China.. ICBC.. name it.

Being realistic is a choice. It's not that we can't afford them but it's a matter that why should we buy them. That does not mean my experience is any less than those who owned them personally.. in fact, it should be better as I'm free from bias and is able to give pros and cons without regard.

I am so lost.....so if you are someone established everyone should get an S-class???
If you are a politian with scams it would be a "better" idea to "roll around" in a Lexus rather than BMW or Porsche???
I don't get it...says who???? Is there some kind of law or practical reason why someone in the right mind should do these???

Sorry, I threw in that bit for some extra sarcasm and I was wholly not serious there. What I meant is that the S-Class is still regarded as the most prestigious of the flagships. Moreso than 7-series, the XF, the A8, or the Lexus LS. On the otherhand, thanks to Lexus' relatively low-key brand status, it's recommended for our politicians (who's embroiled in a scandal for using government coffers to their own good) use them rather their European counterparts.

What is a "normal" consumer??? So everyone who buys a Lexus or perceives Lexus as the best car in its class is "normal" or everyone else is what? Abnormal???

Do you have to ask "your mom, sister and less fortunately people" what car you should buy and what they this is the best??? I don't. I buy what I think meets my needs, my wants and my budget. In fact, I don't know anyone who consults their mom or sister, or anyone who is "less fortunate" than me to decide what is the best car or brand for me. I hope you don't buy cars from consulting "less fortunate people"...and its funny you put "mom", "sister" and "less fortunately people" in the same sentence....

I'm sorry, but I feel like I'm talking to a 15 year old here....Thanks for your inputs by the way...I'll try to keep that in mind next time I buy a car...

Actually, I'm 21. Who paid for his own car and is liability-free.

What I meant is that many people are drawn into the entire "Keeping Up with the Jones" mentality. They buy cars not because they want them but to preserve their public image. If you buy what you think meets your needs, does a Lexus meet you need? If yes, then it does. If it doesn't, then shy away from it. From where we're going, I think it's pointless to create a thread for comparison.. this is because unless you've actually ridden or owned one, you won't be satisfied with the answer.

[uls]

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[jhnkvn]

The other thing I want to reiterate is the quality of materials on Euro cars.
I've seen the "leathers" on older Lexus LS400 and they all crack.
Also when Euro cars put wood, it is real wood or wood veneer - not fake wood accents.
When they put aluminum, its real aluminum and not aluminum-looking plastics.

Don't get me wrong, Euro cars use plastic but a lot of times, they use matte or soft plastics and not shiny or hard plastics.
For most people, these are non-issue but since the OP is asking about comparison, these may or may not be important to him.

In that case, Lexus will meet your need and probably exceed them. As long as your standard isn't like Bentley Continentals or RRs, they would suffice.

[niky]

*yawn*

The "ignore" function. The last bastion of the poor debater.

[Syuryuken]

Naalala ko tuloy yung sinabi ng kapitbahay kong mekaniko ng sasakyan sa US. Sa American car daw malaki ang kita; sa European car medyo malaki kita; at sa Jap car halos walang kita dahil halos walang nasisira. I wonder kung totoo di pa ako nakakapunta ng US

lunch break na nga din

[170kphlang]

wala kayo sa sasakyan ng lolo ko pero di na siya makakapagcomment sa sasakyan niya kasi namayapa na siya....

:popcorn:

[speed_kills]

I wish people just stick to discussing cars and its merits.

For people who has either owned or driven Lexus or the Euro cars, thanks for sharing your experience.

We don't need to agree to each other's opinions but I don't see the point in all these my dad is richer than yours BS.

[shadow]

Shortcut ko na nga....it all boils Down to..."doesn't mean that if you could that you should..." Tama ba?


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[shadow]

*yawn*

The "ignore" function. The last bastion of the poor debater.

Meron ba ignore button tsikot...? Tagal ko na gusto ilagay si retz eh


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[niky]

What I meant is that many people are drawn into the entire "Keeping Up with the Jones" mentality. They buy cars not because they want them but to preserve their public image. If you buy what you think meets your needs, does a Lexus meet you need? If yes, then it does. If it doesn't, then shy away from it. From where we're going, I think it's pointless to create a thread for comparison.. this is because unless you've actually ridden or owned one, you won't be satisfied with the answer.

Which is probably the long and short of it. For some people, Lexus is solid gold. For some, it's not worth the premium. The main difference between Lexus and the Germans is subjective. What's called character. And that's not something everyone will agree on.

[JohnM]

Click on user's name > View Profile > Add to ignore list.

You're welcome

Wag naman si Retz. Mangangalahati ang haba ng lahat ng threads dito :hysterical:

[ZENMasterTYL]

Shortcut ko na nga....it all boils Down to..."doesn't mean that if you could that you should..." Tama ba?


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just because you can, doesn't mean you should

[x_outpost]

First of all, there is nothing wrong driving a Hyundai or any Japanese car - I currently own a couple of them right now.
Secondly, the topic is not about what you can afford or cannot afford.
Third, I don't care who you are, what you do and where you came from. You don't have to put your resume here and command respect. Try going to a forum called "www.ImVeryRichAccordingToMe.com", maybe you'll find people like you with same interests.
Forth, why do you and your peers talk about irrelevant things?
Fifth, so you're 21. Makes sense. By the way, you write like a 15 year old. And you're going to my ignore list too. Thanks!

I drive around in a Hyundai as a matter of factly. For me, that's already a premium car.. I mean, my Sonata doesn't feel cheap at all. It might not be Bentley, but I probably would get it over a 3-series BMW in terms of practicality. In local costs, my Sonata costs just a shy 1.6M pesos in our local currency. To have an idea how much "expensive" cars here is, a Porsche will be slotting in at 7 million pesos or around around three times as more as their $50,500 sticker price in the US. Even if I have that kind of cash and even if I wanted to, it's just pointless to purchase one. First, you'll see the BIR checking your assets and you'll be subject to all these graft and corruption in their offices. Second, I don't need it. Third, like you.. I dislike paying for uber-marked up parts and services. So I'll simply spare myself of the hassle.

I do not own a lot, but I have been driven around a lot. As with niky, I was raised in a rich family. We're simply low key because we're content being one. All you'll see in our garages are Japanese vehicles: Civics, the Corolla, the occasional Ford Expeditions and Land Cruisers. Just because you don't drive around in one or have owned them makes the experience less special. I've been chauffeured by cars that's well.. the topic of this thread really more so than you imagine. I can still remember how subtle the leather in Lexus LX feels or how the S-class is like a rolling miniature land yacht.. or maybe because I'm being chauffeured in Hong Kong and not in the Philippines.

Just because I am young doesn't mean it's right to discredit my opinions. After all, age is simply a number. Want a calling card of the current CEO of Giordano? Esprit? or a picture with China's First Premier Zhang Gaoli who's one of the few in their time who graduated from college? I've been going to Hong Kong for private banking matters ever since I was in high school, so familiar in fact I can give you details. UBS occupies 2IFC's 45-52nd floors.. or that they name their meeting places with capitals of Asian countries ("Right now, I'm in Manila" where Manila's the meeting room name). Or how HSBC's Wealth Management is at the 5th floor of HSBC Tower? I could give you equivalents from Bank of China.. ICBC.. name it.

Being realistic is a choice. It's not that we can't afford them but it's a matter that why should we buy them. That does not mean my experience is any less than those who owned them personally.. in fact, it should be better as I'm free from bias and is able to give pros and cons without regard.



Sorry, I threw in that bit for some extra sarcasm and I was wholly not serious there. What I meant is that the S-Class is still regarded as the most prestigious of the flagships. Moreso than 7-series, the XF, the A8, or the Lexus LS. On the otherhand, thanks to Lexus' relatively low-key brand status, it's recommended for our politicians (who's embroiled in a scandal for using government coffers to their own good) use them rather their European counterparts.



Actually, I'm 21. Who paid for his own car and is liability-free.

What I meant is that many people are drawn into the entire "Keeping Up with the Jones" mentality. They buy cars not because they want them but to preserve their public image. If you buy what you think meets your needs, does a Lexus meet you need? If yes, then it does. If it doesn't, then shy away from it. From where we're going, I think it's pointless to create a thread for comparison.. this is because unless you've actually ridden or owned one, you won't be satisfied with the answer.

[jick.cejoco]

lexus launched in 1990 in the u.s. and had made daimler benz lose to lexus. it became daimler chrysler and still can not compete to lexus. the former mercedes crowd are not returning to mercedes and are keeping and buying newer lexus.

[lowslowbenz]

Ito nalang isang example.

Bakit yung mga Yakuza na halos lahat ay Hapon .... Bakit preferred nila Euro? ...... Bakit ayaw nila sa Lexus?