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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Hi guys,

    im just a newbie here.... i need some help in deciding... i am soon buying a car... im torn between tucson and carens.... what makes me lean towards carens is its seating capacity.... it's gonna be me and my 3 siblings who will use the car most of the time but for like one month of the year, my parents come home so that makes us 6.....

    i got quotations for both, the prices of both will work for me... just want to make sure i am gonna get my money's worth...


    help please!!! or any suggestion???

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    Quote Originally Posted by pretty07 View Post
    Hi guys,

    im just a newbie here.... i need some help in deciding... i am soon buying a car... im torn between tucson and carens.... what makes me lean towards carens is its seating capacity.... it's gonna be me and my 3 siblings who will use the car most of the time but for like one month of the year, my parents come home so that makes us 6.....

    i got quotations for both, the prices of both will work for me... just want to make sure i am gonna get my money's worth...


    help please!!! or any suggestion???
    Hi like u im also torn between this to but i choose carens for her sitting capacity and power yes still worth buying it p nmam

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    how about nissan livina? did you consider it too? im not being badge conscious here...hehehe.... just making sure im not gonna regret my decision... thanks in advance y'all!

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    #4
    How much is your budget and which do you prefer manual or automatic? If its something like 1.2M or below, the Kia Carnival shortwheelbase manual is better than both as a "people mover."

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    Well, I'm a Carens owner and I really like the smoothness of its accecleration and the smoothness of its ride. You have a tough choice considering that this two vehicles does not come in the same class. One is a SUV and the other is a mini MPV. But considering the price increase of the carens, It is almost the same price as the Tucson. If this is the case I think I'll go with the Tucson because it is an SUV and I kinda like its high ground clearance and it also has a lot of aftermarket accessories meaning to say I could toy with it and its 5 years warranty is just so sweet that it would give you a peace of mind for the next 5 years. The only let down is its engine. It has way less power than the Carens due to lack of VGT in its engine.

    The Carens for me is a bang for the buck vehicle because it has a smooth ride, it accelerates almost like a gas fed engine and it can exceed the 200 kph mark easily and still the engine runs smoothly. It can seat 7-9 adult person. But it is still not an SUV, It has a low ground clearance (If only I could increase its round clearance and make it look like an SUV, Its hands down CARENS ). Also it has no aftermarket accessories like wrap around skirts liner or anything, you can't give your ride a unique look as of now. The only after market accessories you can have is a chrome garnish.

    But it all depends on your need. ask your self if you want a powerful engine that can seat 7-9 persons or a SUV that looks good but seats less.

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    i am almost striking Tucson out of my choices.... now i'm down to livina and carens..... u think these two are comparable? which do you suggest?

    i am considering the seating capacity more than the power, the car will just be used mainly in the province... smooth driving....

    and by the way, i want an AT vehicle.....



    thanks y'all!

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    I think between the Livina and the Carens I think its still Carens over the Livina.

    1.)Seating Capacity - Carens, over livina
    Carens is more spacious than the livina. Carens can seat 7-9 adult while livina can seat 6-7 adult max due to its small body. I'v seen the Livina myself and its inside is so small that you can 't seat 3 people in its 2nd row comfortably and it also has low headroom.

    2.)Space - Carens over Livina

    3.)Price - Livina over Carens

    4.)Safety Feature - Livina over Carens

    5.)Automatic Transmission - Carens over Livina
    Carens Manumatic transmission over conventional automatic transmission.

    6.)Ground Clearance - Livina over Carens

    7.)Fuel Consumption - I think its Carens over Livina
    Carens has a diesel fed engine while livina has a gas fed engine. Even though that nissan says that their engine has a very low consumption. I doubt that it is attainable in reality. If your going for an automatic transmission I think you would be better of with a diesel fed engine than a gas fed one.

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    If you're just 4 in the family, buy the Tucson.

    However, since you're 6 in the family (at least a month in a year), then you should go for the Carens. And with that, you could use the extra cargo space during the rest of the year. It is that practical...

    Have you considered Innova? I believe that this should be a better option for you. Maybe spartan, but it works.

    6303:fetch:

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    Unfortunately, with the carens price going up (and up again daw sabi ni ricky (mqavila)), you may be constrained to look at another brand. maybe look at the nissan gran livina. i don't know how much it costs pero you're better off elsewhere.

    for their initial prices, the carens is good value for money. ours is unfortunately, a watered down version. no abs, no stability control, one airbag, etc. but for being a diesel, with 7 seats, a comfortable seating arrangement, it was good value for money AT THAT TIME.

    your needs will have to be limited to:
    - at least seven seater,
    - diesel,
    - AT (or maybe MT for better fuel consumption)

    maybe the innova is more attractive nga this time.

    like cvt said, it is spartan, but it does work.

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    I think just weight the options pero pag ako either Nissan Livina or Kia Carens na lang, yung Tucson masikip for 6 people but it looks cooler though since mini-SUV sha unlike the other two MPV's mukang soccer mom ang dating. Ako mas lean ako sa Livina maskin gas engine na automatic. The price difference alone between the two is HUGE that it dosen't matter what your mileage is (unless you drive like 25,000km a year baka pwede) di mo yan mababawi. And the Kia Carens is overpriced at this point IMO. And yes the Innova overall is the better buy of all if you are open to it, the E variant that is para may power na. And of course Toyota na, meaning Banawe spare parts very very abundant and high resale value compared to Kia and Nissan.
    Last edited by tidus1203; June 24th, 2008 at 08:26 AM.

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    Between the 3, I am leaning more on the Livina. Reasons:
    1.0 Top of the line Livina a/t costs less than Carens or Innova - ~975thou only entry level is even cheaper at 849thou
    2.0 All new 1.8 aluminum gas engine which promises 16-24 km per li. consumption compared -- almost comparable in fuel consumtion to diesel carens/innova
    3.0 Monocoque body like the carens unlike the ladder frame of innova -- means better ride quality and stability comparable to sedans
    4.0 Seats 5 to 7 like innova although carens has better seating comfort
    5.0 Looks better - front is like a nissan murano
    6.0 Nissan quality - comparable to innova although carens is at par too.

    There you go, so choose wisely.

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    IMHO, I don't think Livina's 1.8 gas engine can make 16km/l in our normal traffic and driving condition. Kasi matatalo nya pa ang Civic 1.8 gas engine which I think is hi-tech already (econo mode function, plastic parts for light weight, 5 speed a/t) given the car lang sya tapos ang livina is mpv. That claim seems far away from the truth

    So my choice is still a diesel as long as it is CRDi with vgt because it pulls like a normal diesel and it runs like a gasoline . Given the fastly rising fuel cost and worsening traffic condition, I would advice to stay away from gas as much as you can especially if it is not a car. Now, argument by Tidus123 is valid with regards to initial buying price - you have to consider it also. Well, meron naman mga promo today such as 100k trade-in subsidy for Carens. You can check it out to lessen your initial purchase cost. PM me your cell num if you want me to refer you to the agent who can give that subsidy. Carens CRDi pa rin kasi ang choice as long as may huge discount

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    I am a Carens owner.. and if not for the price increase, I would say the best buy would be Carens. If I were you, I would consider Carens or Innova, not Grand Livina. Mainly because hindi siya ganung kalaki in terms of size and low head clearance. It really depends on your needs and preferences, main difference ng Innova and Carens is the ride.... Innova is truck based while the Carens is so much like a car.

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    thank you guys for the replies.

    as for the innova, hindi kasi sha gusto ng family ko... i know it just looks almost like the carens, pero hindi sha type ng family... plus, ang daming write-ups of dissatisfied innova users - how true???
    i dont know much about vehicles so i am no expert here, apologies if hindi ako fluent sa mga technical terms...

    got the recent quote for carens, around P1.1M, you think hindi na good buy?

    and crdi vs gas engine, advisable pa din ba ang diesel engine, considering ung difference sa presyo nya sa gas, plus the efficiency, plus hindi yata msyadong environment friendly ang diesel? (sensha na, mdyo pro-earth dad ko, hehe)

    we just thought considering the grand livina kasi sa mga nabasa ko, more like carens din sha, tapos nissan, medyo tested na (yata)..... although i have a friend who's been using Kia for years and so far, no regrets....
    kaso tumataas na nga din presyo ng kia... oh well, that's how toyota started din naman siguro.....

    anyway, just share your thoughts, and i hope to make my decision soon... with no regrets... haha

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    hi everybody.... with all the write-up's and feedbacks, i am now considering Honda CRV but the lowest end lang of the three variants....- CRV 2.0 V AT.... the price of course is higher than carens....

    i just spoke with my dad kase.... he feels kung di naman kalakihan ang difference sa presyo, ung Honda nlng daw.... i am just hesitant sa Honda dahil sa maintenance and fuel consumption.... i don't know kung exxaggerated yung naririnig ko - super lakas daw ng fuel consumption ng Honda.... is that true???

    Sir Niki, what can you say?


    anyone's thoughts please???

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post
    If you're just 4 in the family, buy the Tucson.

    However, since you're 6 in the family (at least a month in a year), then you should go for the Carens. And with that, you could use the extra cargo space during the rest of the year. It is that practical...

    Have you considered Innova? I believe that this should be a better option for you. Maybe spartan, but it works.

    6303:fetch:

    how about Honda CRV?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pretty07 View Post
    how about Honda CRV?
    Kung Mag C CRV ka might as well go for the Tucson or sportage CRDI. Sa sportage 4x4 pa. Pero mas ok dating ng tucson 5 years warranty pa.

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    Kala ko ba you need to have 7 seats? CR-V has only 5 seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pretty07 View Post
    hi everybody.... with all the write-up's and feedbacks, i am now considering Honda CRV but the lowest end lang of the three variants....- CRV 2.0 V AT.... the price of course is higher than carens....

    i just spoke with my dad kase.... he feels kung di naman kalakihan ang difference sa presyo, ung Honda nlng daw.... i am just hesitant sa Honda dahil sa maintenance and fuel consumption.... i don't know kung exxaggerated yung naririnig ko - super lakas daw ng fuel consumption ng Honda.... is that true???

    Sir Niki, what can you say?


    anyone's thoughts please???
    If we are talking about the 3rd generation CRV it has improved a lot from the 2nd generation fuel economy wise. Yung kapitbahay namin has one these 3rd gen CRV's and he claims he gets 6-7km/L with it. Of course its never going to beat the diesel engines in this category though.

    Maintenance is no longer an issue with Honda since mainstream car narin sya there are available parts outside the CASA unlike before. Pero kung ako tatanungin mo, siguro mag Tucson ka na lang... But don't expect your Tucson to fair better than the CRV 7-8 years from now when you decide to sell it

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    CRV continues to be a gas guzzler (although said to be better than the gen2 CRV)? You may find yourself regretting the purchase, each time you drive up to a gas station.

    Kung CRV is a consideration, tama si Mschumacher, also consider the Sportage. CRDI with VGT na rin. The CRV will be eating its dust on the road. Fuel consumption is very good, and it uses a cheaper fuel pa. Baka may libreng poster pa ni Nadal.

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