Which would you choose? (new XT or used XT)

Greetings to all, my first time to post here because I never had this dilemma before.

Here is the situation, I and the wifey agree that we need a second car because we need to go to Manila every once in while and we can't use my car (2010 Grand Vitara), all the time due to coding and high fuel consumption. So we are thinking of getting a Crosswind XT.

The dilemma is this, should we get a brand new XT, cash price PhP853K with all of the basic features OR we found a good used 2010 XT that has been upgraded with all of the bells and whistles of the Sportivo, head-rest monitors, HID headlights, JVC stereo/DVD/USB player, silver side view mirrors, keyless entry, etc. etc.

They are asking PhP700K for the used unit. Is it worth it? Odometer reading is 30K+ All casa maintained, with new tires and other enhancements.

Ano po pipiliin nyo sa dalawa?? :help:

Many thanks in advance for your honest and intelligent replies.

Para sakin, I'll get the brand new para wala kang problema kasi hindi mo alam yung history nung 2010 na XT malay mo nabanga or nakabanga na yun dati at pinaganda lang para mabenta or baka may problema na sya kaya gusto nya nang i-dispose, isa pa, hindi mo rin alam lung sinusino or ano ang sinasakay dun sa car, kumbaga parang hindi na maganda ang aura nung sasakyan. Pero kung alam mo history or kakilala mo or friend mo yung may-ari or relative mo, go for the 2nd hand.

Just my opinion.:)

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Originally Posted by Mac40

Para sakin, I'll get the brand new para wala kang problema kasi hindi mo alam yung history nung 2010 na XT malay mo nabanga or nakabanga na yun dati at pinaganda lang para mabenta or baka may problema na sya kaya gusto nya nang i-dispose, isa pa, hindi mo rin alam lung sinusino or ano ang sinasakay dun sa car, kumbaga parang hindi na maganda ang aura nung sasakyan. Pero kung alam mo history or kakilala mo or friend mo yung may-ari or relative mo, go for the 2nd hand.

Just my opinion.:)

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Thanks sir Mac40. This is my thinking as well, hindi ko kilala yung owner, nakita lang namin din sa mga ads, mukhang ok naman yung sasakyan pero for only 1.5 years usage nasa 30K+ na odometer nya. Para sakin medyo marami na tinakbo compared sa pag gamit ko.

Andami kasi nagsasabi na overpriced ang brand new Xwinds ngayon, pero pagdating sa reliability at durability, maasahan talaga.

Aesthetics wise, hindi naman ako concerned kahit pare-pareho histura mula 2005 hanggang ngayon, basta ok performance.

First time din kasi namin mag diesel engine, lagi kaming gas dati.

Kung reliability and durability ang paguusapan, 100% sigurado ka sa Isuzu Crosswind, sobrang tipid ka. My former ride was a 2001 XT Crosswind, belongs to the first batch of Xwinds, just sold it this year for P310K. Eleven years old na sya pero wala akong na-encounter na major problem, just the usual M&R expenses. Kahit luma na yung XT ko tumatakbo pa sya ng 15Kms per liter, tipid talaga. Ang comment ko lang is maingay and mavibrate ang engine.:grin: BTW, yung ipinalit ko pala ay 2012 Adventure GLS sport *840K medyo makunsumo ng konti *13kms per liter pero smooth at maganda manakbo, hindi mavibrate at hindi maingay sa loob ang engine pasado na rin sakin:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Mac40

Kung reliability and durability ang paguusapan, 100% sigurado ka sa Isuzu Crosswind, sobrang tipid ka. My former ride was a 2001 XT Crosswind, belongs to the first batch of Xwinds, just sold it this year for P310K. Eleven years old na sya pero wala akong na-encounter na major problem, just the usual M&R expenses. Kahit luma na yung XT ko tumatakbo pa sya ng 15Kms per liter, tipid talaga. Ang comment ko lang is maingay and mavibrate ang engine.:grin: BTW, yung ipinalit ko pala ay 2012 Adventure GLS sport *840K medyo makunsumo ng konti *13kms per liter pero smooth at maganda manakbo, hindi mavibrate at hindi maingay sa loob ang engine pasado na rin sakin:thumbup:

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Thanks again. Nagpalit ka lang dahil maingay at sobrang lakas vibration ng XT mo? Was this all throughout your usage or after more than 5 years na?

I've been reading na yung mga bagong engines ngayon, 2007 and up, ay mas tahimik na at less vibration, tama ba?

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Originally Posted by sparc179

Thanks again. Nagpalit ka lang dahil maingay at sobrang lakas vibration ng XT mo? Was this all throughout your usage or after more than 5 years na?

I've been reading na yung mga bagong engines ngayon, 2007 and up, ay mas tahimik na at less vibration, tama ba?

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Actually since day 1 nung XT ganon na talaga yun, maingay, mavibrate I don't know yung mga bagong labas na ngayon kung ganon pa rin. Parang sort of nagsawa na ko kaya binenta ko na and replaced it with another brand within the same price range but more features than the Crosswind:yes:.

Here's my new ride:

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l240/badil/Advy1.jpg

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700k for a secondhand XT with 30k kms? Not bad. You can probably go 50k lower if you offer cash.

If the condition is good, no dings in the body and no problems with the engine and transmission, offer 650k for it and see if they'll bite.

30,000 km for a Crosswind is just a blur. Just check the physical condition of the vehicle.

And yes, tawaran mo. Assuming there's only minor scratches, getting it a P600++ is surely a best buy.

Thanks Niky and Gerbo.

Unfortunately, ayaw nya ibaba presyo, kesyo daw marami na sya upgrades na ginawa at all casa maintained, etc. etc.

It's actually 695K, pero take into consideration yung transfer, notary, macro-etching, etc.

You guys may wanna take a look here:

http://www.**************/index.php/...=crosswind+xti

Nagtataka lang ako bakit tinatawag pa nyang XTi, because of the upgrades? Alam ko discontinued na yung model na yun eh.

Meanwhile, kinukulit na'ko ng sales agent ng BMD, she said she can offer me a free keyless entry upgrade if I pay in cash up front.

Hmmm, watdoutink bros?

Bro, kung ang decision mo ay kukuha ka ng brand new unit, I think mas maganda kung mag-test drive ka rin muna before you take the plunge.:grin: Goodluck!

Oo nga tsaka yunh adventure subukan mo rin, malay mo naman magustuhan mo yun :)

Imo mas maganda adventure vs crosswind

BTT: brand new ako. peace of mind at bragging rights na din hahaha

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Originally Posted by Mac40

Bro, kung ang decision mo ay kukuha ka ng brand new unit, I think mas maganda kung mag-test drive ka rin muna before you take the plunge.:grin: Goodluck!

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Nakapag try nakami yung sa kumpare ko, naka XT din sya dati bago nya binenta dahil nag migrate na sila. That was about 2 years ago. I didn't need a second car back then, kaya hindi ko pinag interesan.

Ok naman ang ride para sakin, kahit ma-vibrate at matagtag ng konti pag walang laman or isa ka lang sa sasakyan.

Dati kasi akong nag 4x4 every weekend nung buhay pa yung U.S. version Jimny ko kaya sanay na'ko sa less than smooth ride.

What I'm really looking at is durability and FC since ito yung gagamitin namin sa negosyo ni kumander.

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Originally Posted by renzo_d10

Oo nga tsaka yunh adventure subukan mo rin, malay mo naman magustuhan mo yun :)

Imo mas maganda adventure vs crosswind

BTT: brand new ako. peace of mind at bragging rights na din hahaha

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No offense bros but my personal and also family experience with Mitsu units is very bad. Yung sa kapatid ko nasabak lang sa baha ng isang beses nasira na A/T nya. That was a Lancer GLX 07 model.

Yung sa amin naman dati, Pajero '01 model, nasunog na lang bigla ang wiring, stock yun ha, casa maintained.

Ewan ko, malas ata kami sa Mitsu cars.

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Originally Posted by sparc179

Greetings to all, my first time to post here because I never had this dilemma before.

Here is the situation, I and the wifey agree that we need a second car because we need to go to Manila every once in while and we can't use my car (2010 Grand Vitara), all the time due to coding and high fuel consumption. So we are thinking of getting a Crosswind XT.

The dilemma is this, should we get a brand new XT, cash price PhP853K with all of the basic features OR we found a good used 2010 XT that has been upgraded with all of the bells and whistles of the Sportivo, head-rest monitors, HID headlights, JVC stereo/DVD/USB player, silver side view mirrors, keyless entry, etc. etc.

They are asking PhP700K for the used unit. Is it worth it? Odometer reading is 30K+ All casa maintained, with new tires and other enhancements.

Ano po pipiliin nyo sa dalawa?? :help:

Many thanks in advance for your honest and intelligent replies.

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i think that the price for the second hand cosmetically upgraded model is within the standards of the XWind depreciation.
if i am to choose, i would get the second hand model. the price difference is still significant considering maliit naman ang kilometrahe and wala ka ng ipaapaganda pa.

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Originally Posted by 1D4LV

i think that the price for the second hand cosmetically upgraded model is within the standards of the XWind depreciation.
if i am to choose, i would get the second hand model. the price difference is still significant considering maliit naman ang kilometrahe and wala ka ng ipaapaganda pa.

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Thanks for the input happy_gilmore. I was also thinking the same thing which is why I was considering it.

I will certainly factor in all variables before making the final decision. I still have until the end of the month anyway.

since gagamitin naman sa negosyo, buy a new one. anyway income earning naman sya so me return on investment. Even though 30K kms ang takbo ng 2nd hand Iba pa rin ang brand new. Tsaka sa dami ng upgrade you gotta ask yourself... was the upgrades done properly? especially the wirings...

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Originally Posted by blue_gambit

since gagamitin naman sa negosyo, buy a new one. anyway income earning naman sya so me return on investment. Even though 30K kms ang takbo ng 2nd hand Iba pa rin ang brand new. Tsaka sa dami ng upgrade you gotta ask yourself... was the upgrades done properly? especially the wirings...

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Very good points blue_gambit. Thank you, I did not consider the upgrades as being potential problems since ang sabi sakin casa daw nag install with receipts. Anyway, leaning towards brand new na talaga kami.

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Originally Posted by sparc179

Very good points blue_gambit. Thank you, I did not consider the upgrades as being potential problems since ang sabi sakin casa daw nag install with receipts. Anyway, leaning towards brand new na talaga kami.

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Yung brand new nga nag kaka problema... yung intalls pa.. hehehe..

Check mo rin yung Advie, tingin ko mas bang for the buck yun kesa crosswind. although mas mababa nga lang FC.. pero since wife mo gagamit, I think she'll be more comfortable in the advie than the Crosswind.. both are reliable cars so wont go wrong with either given your requirements.

I've driven both for long periods especially out of town.. all I can say I'd rather have less vibration (Advie) over a small advantage in FC (crosswind). not to mention the seating configuration ng GLS sport vs. XT... Since they are evenly matched in price..

Thanks again bros. Nag check na kami sa mga dealers na mabilis namin mapuntahan, looking now for the best deal we can get.

More power to Tsikot.com and drive safe.

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Originally Posted by sparc179

Thanks Niky and Gerbo.

Unfortunately, ayaw nya ibaba presyo, kesyo daw marami na sya upgrades na ginawa at all casa maintained, etc. etc.

It's actually 695K, pero take into consideration yung transfer, notary, macro-etching, etc.

You guys may wanna take a look here:

http://www.**************/index.php/...=crosswind+xti

Nagtataka lang ako bakit tinatawag pa nyang XTi, because of the upgrades? Alam ko discontinued na yung model na yun eh.

Meanwhile, kinukulit na'ko ng sales agent ng BMD, she said she can offer me a free keyless entry upgrade if I pay in cash up front.

Hmmm, watdoutink bros?

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Hi maybe you would be interested in an upgrade XTRM 2010 look, instead of getting the non-sporty model. here's the link.

http://www.**************/index.php/...ords=xtrm+2003,
I personally know the owner of this Crosswind. Let me know I could refer you to him.