Hyundai Tucson

[totoybato]

[QUOTE=orly_andico]diba the regular tucson 2.0 diesel already HAS a turbo? kaya siya nakaka-110ps out of only 2.0L
generally a 2.5L NA diesel only puts out 70 to 80hp

i was comparing the matrix diesel with the tucson diesel nung nag show sila sa glorietta. in every aspect, the matrix has the better engine, pero turbo din yung sa tucson. pareho torque (250Nm * 2000rpm), down by only 8ps yung matrix (102ps vs 110ps) pero 1.5L lang yung matrix.[/QUO

hindi po ito naka turbo, actually, first choice ko yung jeep liberty, buti na lang di pasok sa budget ko, laking sisi ko sana, hehehe

[alwayz_yummy]

ung crdi na tucson walang turbo? di ko ma-gets....been reading here, wala na kasi nag-upupdate ung tucson crdi trhead...

[bryantpark]

been reading here, wala na kasi nag-upupdate ung tucson crdi trhead...

I guess there just aren't as many CRDi owners yet. I think si totoybato lang ang naka CRDi dito. I've been seeing more and more Tucsons on the road lately but rarely do I see a CRDi. I have the impression that pinoys aren't still willing to pay that much for a Hyundai unlike the North Americans. The gas version, on the other hand, is just right on the money.

[orly_andico]

hindi po ito naka turbo, actually, first choice ko yung jeep liberty, buti na lang di pasok sa budget ko, laking sisi ko sana, hehehe

Huh?
according to this page
http://www.myhyundai.com.ph/showroom.../specs_4x4.htm

it's a "2.0 CRDi Turbo Intercooler"

if that's not a turbo, i don't know what is. also i had a look at the engine bay in glorietta, it most definitely has an intercooler in there.

[number001]

The brand still somehow suffers from a certain degree of stigma in the minds of people. The 4x4 CRDi variant costs almost Php250,000 more than the 4x2. With this difficult and uncertain economic conditions, many people are scrimping on their spendings. As for me, the 4x2 makes lots of sense since if I needed a 4x4 capable vehicle, I would prefer one with a proper transfer case and not some AWD system.

The only downside I see in the 4x2 is that it is completely devoid of any form of safe features (ie airbags, abs+ebd, etc). I believe if Hyundai added all of those missing features to the 4x2 then it is possible to see its selling price go up to levels that is very close to a CRV 4x2 and if that is the case then the majority of buying public just might go for the CRV. As I said, the brand does still suffer from stigma even if its just perception. To attract customers, Hyundai tries to compensate with lower prices (ie. P888K pre evat), a practice that is not unusual for new market entrants(ie. new entrant Sun Cellular vs. established playes : Globe Telecom and Smart Communications).

[orly_andico]

i was just reading this article by Jeremy Clarkson about the Hyundai Accent. He's full of bad things to say about it.

he pointed out something interesting --- unlike China, the cost of labor and manufacturing in Korea is almost the same as Japan. and the raw materials cost the same. In other words, the only way Hyundai and Kia can reduce the price of their offering vs their Japanese rivals, is to economize on other things.

[giantjay]

Info alert guys...for those wanting to know the post-evat price of the Tucson, 2.0 M/T is P898,000 from P888,000. A/T is now P948,000 from P938,000. Ok na yung 10K increase! before i estimated an increase of about P18,000. Ok na to! Great buy, greater car!!! Keep those pics coming guys...

[rj_tim]

Info alert guys...for those wanting to know the post-evat price of the Tucson, 2.0 M/T is P898,000 from P888,000. A/T is now P948,000 from P938,000. Ok na yung 10K increase! before i estimated an increase of about P18,000. Ok na to! Great buy, greater car!!! Keep those pics coming guys...

sir, e yung CRDi 4x4 model magkano na po? sa pagkakaalam ko, pre-eVAT Php1,188,000 ang price e.

[jeanpierre]

I guess there just aren't as many CRDi owners yet. I think si totoybato lang ang naka CRDi dito. I've been seeing more and more Tucsons on the road lately but rarely do I see a CRDi. I have the impression that pinoys aren't still willing to pay that much for a Hyundai unlike the North Americans. The gas version, on the other hand, is just right on the money.

I think, most of the Tucson buyers prefer the model with the higher horsepower and with a much cheaper price. I believe that Tucson CRDI is very good too since the designer/supplier is the same with Sorento CRDi which is Bosch of Germany

[theveed]

Sigurado ba sila sa VAT related yung increase? If you do the math, that's not even 2% increase... Parang dealer increase lang ata yun eh and not VAT.

[eggman]

I think R-VAT increase nga yan pero hindi naman masyadong malaki.Marami nang 2.0 Tucson gas ngayon sa roads ha!

[bryantpark]

Sigurado ba sila sa VAT related yung increase? If you do the math, that's not even 2% increase... Parang dealer increase lang ata yun eh and not VAT.

Well I just hope that that's it and nothing more. I would like to think that certain adjustments were made on the pricing so as to minimize the effect of the eVat implementation and still maintain its competitiveness.

[totoybato]

Huh?
according to this page
http://www.myhyundai.com.ph/showroom.../specs_4x4.htm

it's a "2.0 CRDi Turbo Intercooler"

if that's not a turbo, i don't know what is. also i had a look at the engine bay in glorietta, it most definitely has an intercooler in there.

i got my unit in korea and definitely hindi ito naka turbo kasi wala namang turbo na inilabas sa domestic market sa korea hanggang sa makabalik ako dito sa pinas late last year. Btw, i have pics of my tuc's engine bay in the members gallery. medyo madami ngang components na hindi available sa mga units being sold here. like yung dual airbags. siguro bulok yung unit ko kasi hindi naka turbo as described dun sa website ng hyundai philippines hahaha anyway, almost 10k na ang mileage ng tucson ko, at sa calculation ko, aabot ako ng mga 12km/liter this week after driving tipid mode for the whole week, meaning keeping my speed under 100kph.

[bryantpark]

The brand still somehow suffers from a certain degree of stigma in the minds of people. The 4x4 CRDi variant costs almost Php250,000 more than the 4x2. With this difficult and uncertain economic conditions, many people are scrimping on their spendings.

It's perfectly understandable since the Korean car companies really bungled bigtime on its initial effort to enter the US market. I for one never entertained the thought of getting a Korean car when I started shopping around for one. Even when I finally got to test drive one and really liked it, I was still quite apprehensive. These are just some of the reasons why I finally settled for a Tucson and a Hyundai at that not to mention the number of test drives and more than a month of deliberating.

JD Powers praises Hyundai
http://autonet.ca/News/story.cfm?sto...0/1096746.html

Hyundai wins 'most reliable' ranking in US according to the Annual Consumer Reports magazine
http://www.ameinfo.com/62524.html

Hyundai vehicles ranks second in U.S quality report
http://www.ameinfo.com/39384.html

[oldblue]

basta ok after sales, it doesn't matter kung Korean, American or Japanese.

[kimpOy]

correct...

test drove my friend's 21 days old Hyundai Tucson 2.0 Gas Manual (pegged at 888K) but his company got 3 unit at 860K each...

my impressions...
clutch is too soft...wimpy i may add...brakes are a little weak (atleast for my liking) and the rear visibility is somehow compensated....

those being said, this little machine is bang for the buck...
great engine, nice interior, superb sound setup, adequate cargo room, legroom, a great feel vehicle... a mini-ute for a sedan price...its a steal...

imho if i would to get one i'll probably get the AT

[bryantpark]

correct...

test drove my friend's 21 days old Hyundai Tucson 2.0 Gas Manual (pegged at 888K) but his company got 3 unit at 860K each...

my impressions...
clutch is too soft...wimpy i may add...brakes are a little weak (atleast for my liking) and the rear visibility is somehow compensated....

those being said, this little machine is bang for the buck...
great engine, nice interior, superb sound setup, adequate cargo room, legroom, a great feel vehicle... a mini-ute for a sedan price...its a steal...

I test drove my officemate's manual and I had the same impression with the clutch. The brakes were ok though. He had the clutch adjusted on his first 1k PMS and it seems to be ok now.

I've so far logged 1,140kms. and just had my first 1k PMS on my automatic today at my dealer (Hyundai Commonwealth). Spent P 1,195 for 5 L of oil and oil filter. I was advised by service reception to use regular oil first then shift to synthetic on my 5k PMS if I wanted. It was nice of them to have allowed me to observe while they were working on my Tuc on the shop floor. I requested for it since I always get irked with Toyota everytime I check in my previous Revo. The Toyota service guys would always make it a point to mess up my sound system and cd's, even changing the settings, and hardly clean up after. This time, I made sure it wouldn't happen. I was just advised to keep a safe distance so as to avoid getting involved in any accident. I also observed from afar how the other vehicles were worked on. So far, i was pleased as none of them fooled around with the other vehicles and mine. It was a quick oil change then some electrical components were checked if it were working right. All fluids were also checked and replaced if needed. They likewise worked systematically and was very organzied. So far took around 2 hours since I didn't have an appointment and had to line up. I also had the chance to familiarize myself with the engine and to ask the mechanic some questions. He was kind enough to give me some useful maintenance tips. So far so good as far as the service I'm getting

[glockmeister26]

Updated FC readings:

First week: 8.4kms/liter - mixed highway and city
Second week: 9.2kms/liter - mixed highways and city
Third week: 7.1kms/liter - city driving
Fourth week: 8.95kms/liter - city driving

I use Petron Extra unleaded.

[pixelparadigm]

Updated FC readings:

First week: 8.4kms/liter - mixed highway and city
Second week: 9.2kms/liter - mixed highways and city
Third week: 7.1kms/liter - city driving
Fourth week: 8.95kms/liter - city driving

For the sake of comparison, a RAV4 4x4 2.0L would guzzle gasoline around 8-9km/L in city driving and 10-12km/L on the highway. Although the difference can be factored out by their different weights, I doubt Hyundai gas engines are as efficient, powerful and sophisticated as engines offered by the Japanese makes.

Yes, I share the sentiments of others about the clutches of Hyundai cars. It feels so dull, there's no feel at all of your left foot being involved in the shifting process. And that's rather worrying.

[glockmeister26]

For the sake of comparison, a RAV4 4x4 2.0L would guzzle gasoline around 8-9km/L in city driving and 10-12km/L on the highway. Although the difference can be factored out by their different weights, I doubt Hyundai gas engines are as efficient, powerful and sophisticated as engines offered by the Japanese makes.

Yes, I share the sentiments of others about the clutches of Hyundai cars. It feels so dull, there's no feel at all of your left foot being involved in the shifting process. And that's rather worrying.

Yup, I agree, the Jap 2.0's do have about 10hp more than the Tucs and The Toyota VVTi engines are known for their fuel efficiency. I've driven our '04 4x2 CRV up to 185kph on the NLEX one summer afternoon with 5 passengers (including myself) and this CRV is a 4 speed A/T. With the CRV I get about 6-8 kms/liter in the city and at 10.5kms/liter with an all-highway 500km provincial trek, I guess the M/T version could give out better fuel consumption readings. For a 2.0 heavy vehicle, the Tuc's fuel consumption so far is just fine with me, I still haven't tried going up to the provinces with it just to test the fuel consumptions on a long highway trek and maybe a speed test. Personally I don't have any issues with "clutch feel" on the M/T Tucson. For a shade under 900k, I know value for my money when I see one.