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    #81
    Quote Originally Posted by IMm29 View Post
    His next concern was the durability of the TCi engine. Would having to work harder throuhout its service life (due to the heavier body being hauled) take its toll on the length of its service life? His point was, the CRDi engine could be well matched with the weight it has to lug around, but the TCi might be a bit strained. What happens more than 5 years down the line?
    Now, I think that this is a valid concern bro, as it is hauling a lot more weight than the previous gen. Iyan ang kalaban ng mga diesel engines....I remember that the Gen4 body is heavier by 500Kg(?) than the Gen3 body,- and that's significantly heavy.

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    #82
    Quote Originally Posted by IMm29 View Post
    Not that I do not trust CVT and the TCi owners on the board who have taken their TCi GS units much farther that I have been, but it really is a case to case thing. Pa-test drive CVT
    Hahaha!

    Bros.,- I don't blame you guys, if you do not trust me anymore....

    Look at my perception of the "yosi window",- mali pala after all of these years. I went down just to verify with a HARI VGT unit here in the office,- iyon nga the small window is present on both sliding doors....

    Now, let me try to remember what I've been smoking for the past 4-5 years.... :hysterical:

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    #83
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    Hahaha!

    Bros.,- I don't blame you guys, if you do not trust me anymore....

    Look at my perception of the "yosi window",- mali pala after all of these years. I went down just to verify with a HARI VGT unit here in the office,- iyon nga the small window is present on both sliding doors....

    Now, let me try to remember what I've been smoking for the past 4-5 years.... :hysterical:

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    Wahaha! Penge na din bro!

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    #84
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    Hahaha!

    Bros.,- I don't blame you guys, if you do not trust me anymore....

    Look at my perception of the "yosi window",- mali pala after all of these years. I went down just to verify with a HARI VGT unit here in the office,- iyon nga the small window is present on both sliding doors....

    Now, let me try to remember what I've been smoking for the past 4-5 years.... :hysterical:

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    Eb na yan para ma test drive na tci ni cvt hehehe. Sa totoo lang matagal nako na curious dyan sa tci a/t mo bro. No offense meant bro pero feeling ko kasi medyo kapos na yung tci m/t, tapos a/t pa yung sayo. Iniisip ko parang yung 2.0 engine ng 2003-2004 camry big body. Hirap humatak yun sa laki ng kaha niya, kaya discontinue ni Toyota yung 2.0 engine and naging 2.4 na yung base engine in later models.

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    #85
    mga TCI m/t users...wl bng adjuster ng clutch ang GS ntin?
    sinilip ko n s clutch pedal at secondary clutch cylinder pero wl tlaga akong makita

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    #86
    Quote Originally Posted by bratski View Post
    Eb na yan para ma test drive na tci ni cvt hehehe. Sa totoo lang matagal nako na curious dyan sa tci a/t mo bro. No offense meant bro pero feeling ko kasi medyo kapos na yung tci m/t, tapos a/t pa yung sayo. Iniisip ko parang yung 2.0 engine ng 2003-2004 camry big body. Hirap humatak yun sa laki ng kaha niya, kaya discontinue ni Toyota yung 2.0 engine and naging 2.4 na yung base engine in later models.
    Well bro relativity issue naman yan. Di naman nakakabitin ang power ng 2.0L on the heavy '03 Camry body. Toyota low to mid end Torque made up for it IMO. Stock 15s still spin at sudden low speed jabs at the throttle so kaya naman ng engine.

    Perhaps the only times nabitin ako were when i replaced the stock airbox with an open type - too much air, it didn't like - and when i was on 20s as in my avatar. Kaya naman ang 18s. Will not win drag races but is comfortable at mid to high speeds.

    Shempre the 2.4 would have been better.

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    #87
    Quote Originally Posted by bratski View Post
    Eb na yan para ma test drive na tci ni cvt hehehe. Sa totoo lang matagal nako na curious dyan sa tci a/t mo bro. No offense meant bro pero feeling ko kasi medyo kapos na yung tci m/t, tapos a/t pa yung sayo. Iniisip ko parang yung 2.0 engine ng 2003-2004 camry big body. Hirap humatak yun sa laki ng kaha niya, kaya discontinue ni Toyota yung 2.0 engine and naging 2.4 na yung base engine in later models.
    Bro.bratski,- in that respect, I can agree with you. I also drive the Gen4 TCi M/T of our company and am surprised by the response of the engine....para ngang kapos....lalo na sa low gear...

    Baka nga lang mas maganda ang gearing ng A/T (??)......

    "Enigma" na nga lang kaya ang maipangalan ko rito, instead na Aircraft Carrier....

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    #88
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    Bro.bratski,- in that respect, I can agree with you. I also drive the Gen4 TCi M/T of our company and am surprised by the response of the engine....para ngang kapos....lalo na sa low gear...

    Baka nga lang mas maganda ang gearing ng A/T (??)......

    "Enigma" na nga lang kaya ang maipangalan ko rito, instead na Aircraft Carrier....

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    It's possible that the A/T could have a slight torque advantage to offset the tranny loss, and perhaps a bit better gearing. Same concept, I think, on the GS Limo vs a regular CRDi GS. A bit different tune to offset the weight.

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    #89
    Quote Originally Posted by IMm29 View Post
    Well bro relativity issue naman yan. Di naman nakakabitin ang power ng 2.0L on the heavy '03 Camry body. Toyota low to mid end Torque made up for it IMO. Stock 15s still spin at sudden low speed jabs at the throttle so kaya naman ng engine.

    Perhaps the only times nabitin ako were when i replaced the stock airbox with an open type - too much air, it didn't like - and when i was on 20s as in my avatar. Kaya naman ang 18s. Will not win drag races but is comfortable at mid to high speeds.

    Shempre the 2.4 would have been better.
    Was commenting about this when i had a chance to drive my bro's Camry, it's an 03 model 2.0g, naka 18's kasi yun and sa akyatan kinakapos.

    I agree with you about the different torque specs for manual and matics, the previous gen3 crdi m/t has only 330nm of torque while the a/t 360nm. This is to compensate the power loss of the matic torque converter. Not familiar with the gen4 tci m/t and a/t though.
    Last edited by bratski; July 21st, 2012 at 02:06 AM.

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    #90
    Bro CVT, l think the m/t has about 230nm of torque, how about your a/t?

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    #91
    Quote Originally Posted by bratski View Post
    Was commenting about this when i had a chance to drive my bro's Camry, it's an 03 model 2.0g, naka 18's kasi yun and sa akyatan kinakapos.
    Same unit for me bro. Must be a different set of variables - sabi nga ng kanta, 'It's the climb.' bwahaha!

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    #92
    Quote Originally Posted by IMm29 View Post
    Same unit for me bro. Must be a different set of variables - sabi nga ng kanta, 'It's the climb.' bwahaha!
    Parehas pa yata kayo ng color, bronze shade yung sa bro ko. Though tingin ko kaya underpowered yun kasi badly maintained yung car. Drive lang kasi ng drive yun. Hehe ot na tayo.

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    #93
    Grayish brown bro. Sorry sa OT.

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    #94
    nxt week 5k pms ko n, gastos na naman!!

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    #95
    sa wakas after 3months..nakuha n nmin plate number!!
    ang tagal!!

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    #96

    Patience is a virtue....

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    #97
    i had my 5k pms kanina inabot ng 3,235pesos change oil/filter,tbb,lubricate hinges and suspension
    6ltrs semi synthetic oil (voltronic)= 2,100
    free labor
    oil filter=620
    penetrant=175
    drain plug gasket=40
    misc=300

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    #98
    *sir ACMC...kmusta n po unit nyo!

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    #99
    Quote Originally Posted by skyflakes View Post
    i had my 5k pms kanina inabot ng 3,235pesos change oil/filter,tbb,lubricate hinges and suspension
    6ltrs semi synthetic oil (voltronic)= 2,100
    free labor
    oil filter=620
    penetrant=175
    drain plug gasket=40
    misc=300
    mahal naman nung penetrant.. bago pa yung auto eh.. di pa kailangan ng penetrant nyan sa hinges... talaga pag casa maka singil lang

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    #100
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    mahal naman nung penetrant.. bago pa yung auto eh.. di pa kailangan ng penetrant nyan sa hinges... talaga pag casa maka singil lang
    *yapoy86..negosyo talaga sir!

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