2012 Starex TCI Variant

[mda]

4D56? same po sila ng engine ng mga Mitsubishi Adventures? please correct me if I am wrong. TIA

It might be a derivative of the 4D56. At least the first ones were, not sure about the new ones/GS units. Hyundai calls it the D4BH.

Yep it's a 4D56. Check nyo yung owner's manual. "4D56" is indicated somewhere there sa specs page hehe.

Yes, it's the same <base> engine shared with the Adventure, L300, Montero

[IMm29]

Ah ok. Thanks!

[lastpogi]

Can somebody pls post pictures ng TCI and VGT CRDI variant ng GS?...Para makita exterior differences ng dalawang variants. I have no idea rin kasi sa itsura ng TCI and how would we know by the looks alone kung TCI or CRDI VGT na sya. Thanks

[bratski]

Most notable difference is black yung front/rear bumper and door handles ng tci, while two tone with body cladding yung vgt. May maliit na window din sa sliding door ng vgt while sa tci wala.

[jdee12]

Add pa natin. Yung tci. May saksakan ng key sa bawat door handles. Pati sa rear cargo door. Sa crdi VGT sa driver's side door lang may saksakan ng key.

[CVT]

Most notable difference is black yung front/rear bumper and door handles ng tci, while two tone with body cladding yung vgt. May maliit na window din sa sliding door ng vgt while sa tci wala.

Bro.,- iyong TCI M/T lang ang black and bumpers... kasi pag TCI A/T,- body colored ang bumpers.... this is for HARI units...

Kasi pag grey market units,- VGT na sila lahat,- pero kapag CVX,- body colored din ang bumpers at walang side cladding/two-tone...

Most noticeable difference between TCI and VGT units,- iyong "yosi window", sa right sliding door ng VGT... Sa TCI units,- wala iyan....

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[CVT]

Can somebody pls post pictures ng TCI and VGT CRDI variant ng GS?...Para makita exterior differences ng dalawang variants. I have no idea rin kasi sa itsura ng TCI and how would we know by the looks alone kung TCI or CRDI VGT na sya. Thanks

Punta ka na lang sa mga display showrooms, bro...

Again,- "yosi window" sa right sliding door,- VGT units lang ang mayroon niyan...

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[IMm29]

Punta ka na lang sa mga display showrooms, bro...

Again,- "yosi window" sa right sliding door,- VGT units lang ang mayroon niyan...

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Pero may 'yosi window' sa left sliding door ang TCi?

[IMm29]

Was having a discussion with the brother-in-law about a 3,000km used TCi vs say a Fortuner or GL Grandia both with the same 2.5L D-4D engine last Sunday. He likes the layout of the GS, which we were riding then with 7 adults and 4 kids and some cargo, but he was thinking twice about if the power was enough. The TCi does have about the same hp ratings, but lower and later peak torque ratings compared to the Toyota engine. And there's the weight factor, too.

I was relating to him CVT's experience with the Gen 3 TCi vs the GS TCi, and how the newer one felt more powerful despite having a heavier curb weight. And that was going up to Baguio loaded at that. I told him to have a test drive to put doubts to rest. I told him that expectedly the CRDi should be faster, but that the TCi would be no laggard especially when compared to his '99 gas Revo. Not sure how it stacks up with a 2.5L Fortuner or Grandia. Any thoughts?

His next concern was the durability of the TCi engine. Would having to work harder throuhout its service life (due to the heavier body being hauled) take its toll on the length of its service life? His point was, the CRDi engine could be well matched with the weight it has to lug around, but the TCi might be a bit strained. What happens more than 5 years down the line?

[bratski]

Punta ka na lang sa mga display showrooms, bro...

Again,- "yosi window" sa right sliding door,- VGT units lang ang mayroon niyan...

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Right lang ba may yosi window pag vgt? Baka sa hari units lang. Yung akin kasi magkabila may yosi window.

[jdee12]

Right lang ba may yosi window pag vgt? Baka sa hari units lang. Yung akin kasi magkabila may yosi window.

Yung akin din, both have yosi windows

[CVT]

Right lang ba may yosi window pag vgt? Baka sa hari units lang. Yung akin kasi magkabila may yosi window.

Yung akin din, both have yosi windows

Hmmmm,- I really haven't noticed bro. I am obviously wrong. When I say "yosi window",- this is the "small cut" on the glass window near the second row of seats.

Pero may 'yosi window' sa left sliding door ang TCi?

Wala ang TCi niyan bro.,- plain glass window lang.....

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[kinyo]

His next concern was the durability of the TCi engine. Would having to work harder throuhout its service life (due to the heavier body being hauled) take its toll on the length of its service life? His point was, the CRDi engine could be well matched with the weight it has to lug around, but the TCi might be a bit strained. What happens more than 5 years down the line?

Matibay naman ang TCi engine. Regular change oil/filter lang ang katapat. Our Gen2 A/T Starex TCi, now 10 yrs old with 105k km mileage still performs like new, with (fully loaded) trips from Ilocos to Bicol in one summer, many times to Baguio and Isabela, once to Banaue. I only had to replace fuel filter once (some two years after water contamination incident) and had the timing belt replaced (as manual recommended) at 80k km although it was still intact.

[bratski]

In my opinion lang, my gs vgt's engine feels just right lang for the heavy body, acceleration is brisk although not phenomenal. The tci engine make do with 74 horsepower less and around 170nm of torque short, but with an equally heavybody. Now for me that screams under power. Although some swear that the tci engine is enough, I'll hold my judgment until i get to try a tci unit.

[Starex_Gold]

In my opinion lang, my gs vgt's engine feels just right lang for the heavy body, acceleration is brisk although not phenomenal. The tci engine make do with 74 horsepower less and around 170nm of torque short, but with an equally heavybody. Now for me that screams under power. Although some swear that the tci engine is enough, I'll hold my judgment until i get to try a tci unit.

IMO nasabi lang na matulin ang GS VGT kasi makupad ang competitors. Pero para sa'kin okay naman.

Lalo na yung Super Grandia na A/T. Susmiyo

[bratski]

IMO nasabi lang na matulin ang GS VGT kasi makupad ang competitors. Pero para sa'kin okay naman.

Lalo na yung Super Grandia na A/T. Susmiyo

May nakasabay akong Super grandia sa highways and ok naman humataw, ayoko nga lang unahan kasi baka mawala yagbols nun sa hiya hehehe.

[Starex_Gold]

May nakasabay akong Super grandia sa highways and ok naman humataw, ayoko nga lang unahan kasi baka mawala yagbols nun sa hiya hehehe.

Hanggang 140km/h o 150km/h lang yun, bro. Sabi ko sa'yo nung pinatulan ko yung GS VGT (using Hiace GL Grandia M/T), wala eh.

Parang wala na ako mukhang maiharap arangkada palang patay na Hiace.

[IMm29]

IMO nasabi lang na matulin ang GS VGT kasi makupad ang competitors. Pero para sa'kin okay naman.

Lalo na yung Super Grandia na A/T. Susmiyo

Well, that's a good point. The CRDi GS's acceleration is great compared to the local competition. I think it's enough for the local conditions though.

I was able to take the Super Grandia of my friend up to about 140 kph on SLEX when it was brand new. Never tried flogging the aerodynamice brick past that though. The GS can go 50 kph more tho.

[IMm29]

In my opinion lang, my gs vgt's engine feels just right lang for the heavy body, acceleration is brisk although not phenomenal. The tci engine make do with 74 horsepower less and around 170nm of torque short, but with an equally heavybody. Now for me that screams under power. Although some swear that the tci engine is enough, I'll hold my judgment until i get to try a tci unit.

Not that I do not trust CVT and the TCi owners on the board who have taken their TCi GS units much farther that I have been, but it really is a case to case thing. Pa-test drive CVT

[IMm29]

Matibay naman ang TCi engine. Regular change oil/filter lang ang katapat. Our Gen2 A/T Starex TCi, now 10 yrs old with 105k km mileage still performs like new, with (fully loaded) trips from Ilocos to Bicol in one summer, many times to Baguio and Isabela, once to Banaue. I only had to replace fuel filter once (some two years after water contamination incident) and had the timing belt replaced (as manual recommended) at 80k km although it was still intact.

Thanks bro. I told him that maintenance wise, he would stand to spend less. Anyhow, let's see how that goes.