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    Quote Originally Posted by Type 100 View Post
    I'm hoping prices will remain roughly the same. Mechanically the GD and GE aren't very different from each other; most of the change is concentrated in the engines' cylinder heads, a new torque converter on the CVTs, and perhaps slight fettling of the suspension.

    I understand that this will address the initial lag when starting from a full stop. That's my issue with the current Jazz CVT, when caught in a stop and go traffic,- reason why I need to step on the gas pedal harder and consequently step on the brake pedal harder so that I do not lose lane position ....


    Quote Originally Posted by wilcats View Post
    overall body rigidity increased by 160++%
    now thats a big improvement from our current GDs.
    I bet this'll sell really well.
    Is this by "increased by or to 160%", bro.?

    Quote Originally Posted by AG4 View Post
    The new Fit/Jazz still looks a bit odd, but at least its now a bit sleeker...
    The wheelbase has been stretched by 50mm(1.9 inches) and now measures 2500mm(98.4 inches).

    From my point of view, the structure of the front face looks more like the Toyota Yaris now....


    Quote Originally Posted by Type 100 View Post
    Even with the raised rigidity, the inevitable weight gain is kept to just 22 lb.
    Impressive too but I worry that this weight-saving came at the expense of the spare tire. JDM GE Fits are shod with run-flat tires; the old spare tire well in the back has become an extension of the rear load bay for deep loads.
    Uh-oh.

    To me, that is also a big concern.... I may be old-schooled, but a spare tire will always be a psychological insurance for me....

    5505:home:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Type 100 View Post
    Even with the raised rigidity, the inevitable weight gain is kept to just 22 lb.

    Impressive too but I worry that this weight-saving came at the expense of the spare tire. JDM GE Fits are shod with run-flat tires; the old spare tire well in the back has become an extension of the rear load bay for deep loads.

    Uh-oh.
    They call it ULTR luggage...
    Isn't that extra space under the trunk floor/carpet big enough to hold a spare tire or space saver?




    Maybe the ASEAN Jazz version might have a spare tire, I guess we'll find out in a few months.
    Last edited by AG4; February 26th, 2008 at 10:35 AM.

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    #43
    This is definitely going to be my next car. Ang ganda talaga...pag-iipunan ko ito...

    OT: Nice move of Honda for the civic...they increased the price a bit but they put in ABS in the V model.

    Ngayon hindi nako malilito kung civic or Jazz..hehe.

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    #44
    kelan lalabas itong bagong jazz? any info..

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    #45
    first thing that came to mind is the MB A-class... more pics here:

    http://www.leftlanenews.com/honda-fit.html
    Last edited by gerald_g; February 26th, 2008 at 12:26 PM. Reason: add info

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    #46
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post
    Is this by "increased by or to 160%", bro.?
    I believe it should be "increased BY 160%."

    With newer cars nowadays, this is a normal development over their predecessors, especially those that prioritize handling.

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    #47
    What will happen to the spare tire if this ULTR luggage is adopted for the new model? Runflat?

    The current model's torsion beam rear axle setup is compact enough to provide additional room for a few things under the rear subframe so maybe the ULTR utilizes this space, but I hope there still is room for the spare.

    Quote Originally Posted by AG4 View Post
    They call it ULTR luggage...
    Isn't that extra space under the trunk floor/carpet big enough to hold a spare tire or space saver?




    Maybe the ASEAN Jazz version might have a spare tire, I guess we'll find out in a few months.

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    #48
    Like I mentioned, the ULTR luggage setup just makes use of the old spare tire well of the GD Jazz. Based on diagrams and photos I've seen, if Honda so chooses, it can easily convert this "deep" luggage area back into a spare tire well.

    It would be wise for Honda to avoid run-flats in the Philippines as they're very expensive tires to replace. As of this writing, tires with normal sidewalls are expensive enough as they are.

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    #49
    I can't wait for it to come in.

    So that secondhand first-gens will finally depreciate. I still want a secondhand Jazz! :hysterical:

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    ay news when will it come here in the philippines?

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    Speculation says it'll be here by September. Honda seems to have prioritized the launch of the Accord first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Type 100 View Post
    Speculation says it'll be here by September. Honda seems to have prioritized the launch of the Accord first.
    Thats because the new Accord and ASEAN Accord were both introduced earlier.
    The ASEAN Accord was introduced in Thailand on November 2007, while the ASEAN spec Jazz is still being tested in Thailand.


    -autoincar
    Last edited by AG4; February 28th, 2008 at 06:34 PM.

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    sa 2007 padin ako hahaha though maganda yung dash pero yung labas walang sinabi sa 2007. ilaw palang e

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    #54
    a bit OT: is it true na maingay ang CVT?

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    #55
    ganda ng bagong jazz, my dad couldnt wait for it though. sabi kasi sakin ng SQ sa honda QA, october dadating yung bago. sa tingin ko, earlier kasi wala na display ng GD jazz sa showroom ng honda QA. ewan ko lang.

    manager, hindi naman maingay CVT ng jazz ko., yung lag lang nakakainis. parati ako nasisingitan pag traffic. kailangan ng malupitang tantiyahan ng gas pedal
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    #56
    Quote Originally Posted by caloyski5 View Post
    manager, hindi naman maingay CVT ng jazz ko., yung lag lang nakakainis. parati ako nasisingitan pag traffic. kailangan ng malupitang tantiyahan ng gas pedal
    Ang gusto ng CVT, gradual ang pag-apak sa gas, it doesn't want you to suddenly floor it. I guess sanayan lang.

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    #57
    Kung nababagalan ka sa acceleration, try mo na ilagay sa "S" mode imbes na "D" mode.

    Mayroon nga na nagcomment na parang rubber band daw ang transmission ng Honda CVT. Aarankada na ang makina then aabante. Hindi sabay na sabay

    nakikipag car pooling ako. 2x a week, I am driving a CVT Jazz Idsi. But has not used the "S" mode yet.

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    The all-new Honda Jazz



    -CSS/autoincar

    Honda Automobile (Thailand) Co aims to sell 32,000 units of the all-new Jazz at home and abroad this year.

    “We are confident we can achieve the target, given the innovative design and impressive features. The model is a very smart choice among many customers in the region,” said president Kenji Otaka, who joined Honda executives to launch the second-generation model at a Bangkok hotel yesterday.


    Honda expects that about 20,000 units will be sold locally, while the remaining 12,000 units will be exported to Australia, Malaysia and the Philippines.

    The new five-door hatchback comes in three major versions: the top-of-the-line Jazz SV, the Jazz V and the Jazz S. All versions can use E20 fuel and comply with Euro 4 emissions standards.

    The top-end model is priced at 695,000 baht, the mid-range one between 620,000 and 640,000 baht and the Jazz S 587,000 baht for an automatic and 550,000 baht for a manual transmission.

    The new Jazz is 45,000 baht cheaper than its predecessor because of the government’s reduced excise taxes on E20-compatible cars.

    Mr Otaka said the second-generation Jazz had been redesigned to achieve a sportier look, outstanding fuel economy, bigger cabin space and attractive appeal.

    Pitak Pruittisarikorn, a director, said the company was targeting customers who are fashion and lifestyle trend-setters aged between 18 and 30 years old.

    The new Jazz features a 1.5-litre engine that produces 120 horsepower, the highest in the subcompact segment in Thailand. It also has an advanced module audio system, USB port and audio-control switch at the steering wheel.

    Local car sales last year exceeded 170,000 units, of which 51% were subcompact models. The Jazz has been the top selling five-door hatchback in the subcompact category over the past five years.

    News from : Bangkokpost

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    #59
    Saw the new Jazz up close last week when I was abroad.

    It looks nice -- comparable to the current Jazz we have here now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manager View Post
    a bit OT: is it true na maingay ang CVT?

    For me, hindi maingay ang CVT.

    However, I noticed that when your tranny is in "R", there is this noise that you can hear even when you're inside the car.... Has anyone noticed or was aware of it?

    And the lag from full stop to roll, sometimes is irritating.....

    5707:tumbleweed:


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