Power Steering Pressure hose inquiry

Hi folks, pa-assist naman po dito sa noisy power steering problem ko.

I noticed that my power steering pressure hose had a very small swelling with possibility of bursting anytime soon so I immediately planned to replace it. I called up Honda and was told that the pressure hose would cost me 10k + installation cost. Due to the price, I called up Piyeza and was told that the part was available for 2,800 + 300 installation fee.

I have heard that there were 2 aftermarket brands of the pressure hose - isang maingay at iyung isang hindi maingay which is slightly priced higher. So I asked Piyeza and they told me that what they have is the silent one. So, I immediately had it installed.

Ngayon, when I turn the steering wheel, the power steering is noisy. I could hear the "eeeennnnnnnggggg..." sound in the cabin everytime I turn left or right. No sound when I don't turn the steering wheel.

May na-encounter na ba kayong ganito? Is the sound really coming from the pressure hose? Can you recommend a shop that can fix this? Or can you recommend where I can buy the original hose at a much lower price? My ride is a civic vti-s '05.

thank you very much.

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Originally Posted by milo012007

Hi folks, pa-assist naman po dito sa noisy power steering problem ko.

I noticed that my power steering pressure hose had a very small swelling with possibility of bursting anytime soon so I immediately planned to replace it. I called up Honda and was told that the pressure hose would cost me 10k + installation cost. Due to the price, I called up Piyeza and was told that the part was available for 2,800 + 300 installation fee.

I have heard that there were 2 aftermarket brands of the pressure hose - isang maingay at iyung isang hindi maingay which is slightly priced higher. So I asked Piyeza and they told me that what they have is the silent one. So, I immediately had it installed.

Ngayon, when I turn the steering wheel, the power steering is noisy. I could hear the "eeeennnnnnnggggg..." sound in the cabin everytime I turn left or right. No sound when I don't turn the steering wheel.

May na-encounter na ba kayong ganito? Is the sound really coming from the pressure hose? Can you recommend a shop that can fix this? Or can you recommend where I can buy the original hose at a much lower price? My ride is a civic vti-s '05.

thank you very much.

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did your original p/s hose have a restrictor? did the shop who replaced your p/s hose bleed the system? are you using honda or compatible p/s fluid in the system?

Hi Jick,

thank you for your reply. let me answer your questions as best as I could. The hose was installed by the Piyeza mechanic.

1) did your original p/s hose have a restrictor?

No idea. But what I saw is that they used all the parts that came with the p/s hose. i'm not sure which one is the restrictor.

2) did the shop who replaced your p/s hose bleed the system?

I don't think so. how do you bleed the system? Did you mean, keep the steering wheel fluid reservoir lid open, start the engine and then turn the steering wheel? If this is it, no we didn't do that. It was a quick change.

3) are you using honda or compatible p/s fluid in the system?

I'm just using the steering fluid brand that you buy from any spare part store. Not sure if it's honda compatible. I'll go ask Honda.

thanks.

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Originally Posted by milo012007

Hi Jick,

thank you for your reply. let me answer your questions as best as I could. The hose was installed by the Piyeza mechanic.

1) did your original p/s hose have a restrictor?

No idea. But what I saw is that they used all the parts that came with the p/s hose. i'm not sure which one is the restrictor.

2) did the shop who replaced your p/s hose bleed the system?

I don't think so. how do you bleed the system? Did you mean, keep the steering wheel fluid reservoir lid open, start the engine and then turn the steering wheel? If this is it, no we didn't do that. It was a quick change.

3) are you using honda or compatible p/s fluid in the system?

I'm just using the steering fluid brand that you buy from any spare part store. Not sure if it's honda compatible. I'll go ask Honda.

thanks.

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some p/s hose have restrictors to reduce the growl. this is installed along the length of the hose and appears as if it were a metallic tube or ferrule around the circumference of the hose. honda and acura are very sensitive to other than honda/acura compatible p/s fluid. as far as bleeding the system, this is usually done with the front tires unloaded (taken off the ground) and the car is on jackstands or car hoist, then, with the engine running at idle, turn the wheel left to right, right to left and so on avoiding hitting turn stops in either direction until the noise is eliminated. your "mechanic" is an amateur. have him do the process at earliest convenience or your pump gets damaged by cavitation

Jick, thank you bro. I'll quickly check on your suggestions. again thanks. balitaan kita kung mawawala iyung tunog.

dont use off the shelf ps fluid. use only Honda PSF.

may ganito ding tunog yung ES ko... mahal pala ng hose.

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Originally Posted by milo012007

Jick, thank you bro. I'll quickly check on your suggestions. again thanks. balitaan kita kung mawawala iyung tunog.

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Sir kamusta ang nawala na ba ang problem? Have a similar problem na may ingay or ugong na tunog when I turn the steering wheel.

Not sure if may ugong when I turn the steering wheel while running (road noise kasi from the outside mas malakas) but it is more evident when I turn the steering wheel from stand still.

Also, from time to time biglang tumitigas ang steering wheel from stand still. Kapag ganito umaabante ako ng unti then lalambot na ulit ang steering wheel.

Ang nakakainis is lumabas lahat ang problem AFTER ko ipa- O/H ang power steering pump ko and changed the hoses, kasi sabi ng CASA may leaks na daw. But nung hindi pa pinapagawa ok pa lahat! :twak2:

Btw, ang pressure hose is the hose na nakakabit sa taas ng power steering pump diba?

Try to check if there are leaks on the tubes and hoses. Noises usually are caused by leaks as the pump cannot work 100%. Also check if there are bubbles in your fluid reservoir. Had the same problem and it took sometime for me to find the leak. After replacing some o rings, the annoying sound disappeared.

* Milo
I just had the same problem as yours, kani-kanina lang. My ride is a Gen2 CRV, with a leaking high pressure power steering hose, may ingay din before ko ma notice yung leak, my question is, na solve na ba yung ingay nung sayo? wala na ba leaks sa pinalit mo na hose? Nasa 12k nga daw yung orig sa casa at wala pa ako budget para dun. :no:

* sir Jick
sir ano possibility na magkaroon ng ingay pag nagpa fabricate ako ng hose sa mga hydraulic hose shops? say, 80% magaya nila diameter ng hose? may nagsabe sa akin na somewhere inside, in between the hose, may check valve something daw, is that the restrictor your talking about? Can you give me an advise or at least some info before going to a repair shop?:help: thanks!

may kilala akong gumagawa nung steering hose mura lang, range nya 350-700php depende sa haba ng hose, hose replace return fittings.


*ryan mura lang ang hose tinaga kayo ng sobra.

Fabricated PS hose for a Nissan Sentra was only Php800 sa Rizal avenue. I don't mind the additional noise. Basta ok ang function.

Besides, kung 10k ang hose na orig, eh pambibili ko na lang ng sound system yung sukli kung fabricated ang gagamitin ko. hehe.

EDIT: Sa ABC Hydraulic ko pala pinagawa. Near LRT R.Papa station. You can take the LRT na lang. Just pack the leaking hose properly para walang tagas.

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* Milo
I just had the same problem as yours, kani-kanina lang. My ride is a Gen2 CRV, with a leaking high pressure power steering hose, may ingay din before ko ma notice yung leak, my question is, na solve na ba yung ingay nung sayo? wala na ba leaks sa pinalit mo na hose? Nasa 12k nga daw yung orig sa casa at wala pa ako budget para dun. :no:

* sir Jick
sir ano possibility na magkaroon ng ingay pag nagpa fabricate ako ng hose sa mga hydraulic hose shops? say, 80% magaya nila diameter ng hose? may nagsabe sa akin na somewhere inside, in between the hose, may check valve something daw, is that the restrictor your talking about? Can you give me an advise or at least some info before going to a repair shop?:help: thanks!

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Hi rynasc,

I used to have the same problem as yours. My Gen2 CRV got a leak sa high pressure power steering hose pero walang ingay during na nag leak. I have to replace the hose immediately dahil malakas ang leak. Nag start lang yung ingay nang nagpalit na ako ng hose. Sa mahal ng hose ng genuine honda napilitan ako pumunta sa hydraulic hose shop sa may santolan pasig to inquire at sinabi nila sa akin na hindi raw mag iingay ang hose nila. Mura 1.800 ang gastos so pinakabit ko. 1 week after installation nag ingay na siya. May bula na ang power steering fluid tank. every morning kailangan ko pang pihitin manubela left and right until mawala bula at the same time yung sound (some times sound humihina lang pero hindi mawawala). Sobrang hassle and pain in the head. I am still looking for other options para makamura at ma solve ang problem. In case meron kang makita na kayang magawaan ng lunas ang ganitong problem please let us know. IF non then I guess I will have to settle sa genuine honda parts na 12K ang price.

Hope this helps!

Anybody can advise if masama patagalin ang maingay ng power steering dahil sa fabricated na high pressure hose hose? I mean while saving for a genuine honda part?

Thanks,
Ronald

From what I remember a long time ago, Meron din brand ng mga hose, parang good year yata magandang brand, pars walang ingay aside from same diameter etc

Just bleed the system para tahimik. Even a 12k hose will make noises if you dont bleed it.

Good year, bridgestone, etc ang gamit ng hose shops. Pang high pressure applications unlike the flimsy original hose.

ever wondered why they have clamp the hose somewhere near the steering rack end?

for Honda cars, medyo maselan sa noise ang power steering hose niya kaya hindi pwedeng basta basta kung anong hose ang ikabit.
may kamahalan talaga ang power steering hose na brand new sa casa kaya mas advisable na sa mga hydraulic hose center niyo ipapagawa iyan. depende sa haba ng hose ang presyo.

may hydraulic hose center kami along commonwealth avenue in Q.C. at kung malapit kayo, mas okay na dalhin niyo yung kotse niyo at kami mismo ang checheck up ng power steering. kung gusto niyo rin ipabaklas mismo sa amin, pede rin pero additional charge yun pero mura pa rin naman. Magandang hose ang ikakabit namin at maganda rin ang pagka crimp. Two months warranty naman kaya in case na may problema pa rin, aayusin namin ulit. kayang tumagal ng ilang years ang power steering hose na gawa namin at bibihira naman ang back jobs na customers. kung power steering pump naman ang problema , marami rin na mekaniko ang mag aayos at katabi rin lang namin ang mga autosupplies.

For products, branch locations and contact details pakicheck nalang po ng tsikot ads ko.
My Tsikot Ads -> Megaflex Hydraulic Hose Center

Sir, nakipag sapalaran ako sa pag bili ng taiwan replacement ng hose for my CRV-Gen2. Update ko tong forum pag napakabit ko na sa shell :)

Nabili ko sa Kalentong priced at 2.8K. Punta pa akong shell kinabukasan para pakabit. Sana okay ang lahat

Pinakabit ko sa Toto Power Steering Specialist kanina lang, no bubbles, steering becomes lighter, very noticeable decrease in squeaking noise when maneuvering, walang tagas, so far so good. Ni drive ko around the metro. E.Rod to, Port Area and to San Juan. So far so good :)

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Pinakabit ko sa Toto Power Steering Specialist kanina lang, no bubbles, steering becomes lighter, very noticeable decrease in squeaking noise when maneuvering, walang tagas, so far so good. Ni drive ko around the metro. E.Rod to, Port Area and to San Juan. So far so good :)

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Hi soyuz1234! good to hear na ok ang power steering system mo. IF you don't mind pwede mo ba update forum after 1 week or 2 weeks kasi I also did the same sa CRV Gen2 ko. Nakipag sapalaran din ako sa murang replacement. First few days ay no problem at tahimik ang power steering system. After a week or 2 nag start na siyang mag ingay (eeeennnngggg) eveytime i-turn ko ang steering wheel. If you continue experiencing quiet power steering system ng matagal sa 2 weeks hingi ako ng request syo kung saan mo nabili ang hose mo.

Thanks.
Ronald