i dont know what the folks in Honda are smoking right now...with the price of the Pilot...i'd rather buy the Explorer...if i had the money hehehe
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If we're talking large... the Kia Carnival is almost as wide and is taller, is available for less money and comes with a diesel to boot. But it's not very popular, locally. In fact... sales aren't really that great for what is arguably the most modern diesel van on the market.
The problem is, if you don't think locally and adapt yourself to the market, you lose. It doesn't matter if a car is a best-seller elsewhere... if it doesn't meet local demands in this market, it will flop.
The US-style minivan formula doesn't translate very well to the Philippines. Relatively low-slung MPVs like the Odyssey or the Carnival are not going to lord it over truck-based vans like the Grand Starex. Especially not considering the price difference. And the V6? A sure death sentence. Much as I like the Alphard V6, I can probably count the sales of this car here on one hand.
The Philippines has a few demands for vans. They have to be big. Not necessarily wide. Wide is a handicap in this country, where it's easy to lose a side mirror to passing motorbikes. Instead, for some reason, despite Filipinos being an average of five-foot-nothing in height, local buyers like tall vans. And they want them diesel.
I've seen buyers go into a Toyota dealership looking for a luxurious van, and instead of going for a very comfortable leather-equipped dual captain's chair Previa, they go home with a hard-riding, ladder-frame refrigerator box HiAce. Just because it has more headroom and a diesel motor.
There are a few rich folks who like nice, big gasoline vehicles... but if you're looking for a 2.8 million peso status symbol, most of these people will be buying SUVs, instead.
You have to realize, selling the Odyssey here at nearly three million bucks is going to be a very hard sell. Even the otherwise excellent Pilot had dismal sales. Consider that the much smaller Nissan Murano sold ten times as much... and the CX9, despite Mazda's sales woes in this country, also outsold the Pilot.
Despite the fact that Toyota and Honda enjoy a good reputation amongst local buyers, people aren't going to pay huge premiums for all their products. Cases in point: The Toyota RAV4, whose sales are dismal, and the Honda Pilot, whose sales were even worse. Bringing the Pilot back when there was no demand in the first place represents a fundamental disconnect between management expectations and market reality. The Odyssey will have to be at least 400,000 pesos cheaper to compete in this market... not that the market for V6 US-style minivans is that big, to begin with.
And this is me... talking as a Honda fan. One who enjoyed the much-maligned FB Honda Civic when I drove it last month, and one who's happy with our 2007 Honda CR-V. I will inevitably get a chance to drive the new Odyssey. And if it's anything like the Accord, I will enjoy it very much, but I'm not holding my breath on it selling well.
Boo. Hyundai did it with the Eon...
Ang pagbalik ng comeback...
Si LNopal kaya yan defensive kasi meron sya (aw, butthurt!)
Dude must think he lives somewhere else, he's not in the philippines
So yung MPG MPG nya na sinasabi, wala yan dito
Yung 7+1, 7+1 ek ek wont work here
You want to sell your products well? Cheap + diesel engine
We're not in the US dude. We're in THE Philippines
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