2012 Honda Civic Sedan and Coupe

[number001]

now compare accent's entry lever transmission with city's. accent has a 4 speed automatic transmission compared to 5 for city. 4 speed is a thing of the past, and yet is being sold in the philippines. ok. 4 speed prolly can catch the 5 speed tranny, but do you really want to buy an obsolete tranny?

There's really nothing so advanced about a torque converter automatic transmission. Its been around for more than six decades already. The more gears present in a transmission gives the vehicle a better fuel efficiency (as the engine can spin at a lower rpm) for long highway drives.

Now if a dual clutch automatic transmission (like that found in the Fiesta or Focus) were to be compared to with an ordinary torque converter automatic transmission, then it can be said that some penny pinching has occurred.

[andywesteast]

Ano yan after 10 years 1.3 to 1.5 million na ang compact cars?

That wouldn't be so surprising.

[eljo3025]

The majority of A/Ts here in the Philippines are still 4 A/T examples are the Vios,Innova,MS GLS V,Ford Everest,Toyota Fortuner,Toyota Corolla Altis 1.6,Mazda 3, Suzuki Swift, Suzuki Vitara etc..

[dcph172]

other car companies can afford to have lower prices because they can cut corners. for example, compare civic with mazda3 in the philippines. the entry level of civic has 140ps compared to 105ps for mazda3. that alone is a clear way to cut the price. you will get a cheaper car with a lousy engine for a subcompact car. now try to put 4 passengers in both cars, see how the cars perform... just comparing family cars where the chances of having 5 people in the car is possible.

now compare accent's entry lever transmission with city's. accent has a 4 speed automatic transmission compared to 5 for city. 4 speed is a thing of the past, and yet is being sold in the philippines. ok. 4 speed prolly can catch the 5 speed tranny, but do you really want to buy an obsolete tranny?

well first, the civic and mazda 3 is a compact car. and not a subcompact. i wouldve believe everything you said if atleast you got this very simple fact right.

second, a more advance technology doesnt meant it has to be more expensive. hondas are mass production cars! i bet it doesnt cost much more to make a 5 speed transmission than a 4 speed transmission. computers are much cheaper now compared to 5-15 years ago. yet its more advance than anyone could've imagined that time.

third, what is the justification of raising the price of say a 2010 honda civic V fd by more than 100 THOUSAND PESOS since its launch in 2006?! its basically the same car with VERY minor upgrades!

[eggman]

The majority of A/Ts here in the Philippines are still 4 A/T examples are the Vios,Innova,MS GLS V,Ford Everest,Toyota Fortuner,Toyota Corolla Altis 1.6,Mazda 3, Suzuki Swift, Suzuki Vitara etc..

Ford Everest ay 5 Speed Automatic nayan noon pa..

Malamang mga nasa 890K up to 1.280M Pesos nayang new generation Honda Civic.Same engines at transmission parin yan yata pero mas matipid sa gas DAW.

[bolex]

The majority of A/Ts here in the Philippines are still 4 A/T examples are the Vios,Innova,MS GLS V,Ford Everest,Toyota Fortuner,Toyota Corolla Altis 1.6,Mazda 3, Suzuki Swift, Suzuki Vitara etc..

in congested manila roads, you seldom reach 5 or 6 gear...

[Starex_Gold]

third, what is the justification of raising the price of say a 2010 honda civic V fd by more than 100 THOUSAND PESOS since its launch in 2006?! its basically the same car with VERY minor upgrades!

Uhh.. The ABS + body colored mud guards?

Malamang mga nasa 890K up to 1.280M Pesos nayang new generation Honda Civic.Same engines at transmission parin yan yata pero mas matipid sa gas DAW.

Paano mangyayari yan.

Explain.

[renzo_d10]

Paano mangyayari yan.

Explain.

Ah kasi nilagyan ng i-VTEC light.

i-VTEC kicked in yo !

[Starex_Gold]

Engine ng CR-V. Nyahaha

[LNopal]

well first, the civic and mazda 3 is a compact car. and not a subcompact. i wouldve believe everything you said if atleast you got this very simple fact right.

second, a more advance technology doesnt meant it has to be more expensive. hondas are mass production cars! i bet it doesnt cost much more to make a 5 speed transmission than a 4 speed transmission. computers are much cheaper now compared to 5-15 years ago. yet its more advance than anyone could've imagined that time.

third, what is the justification of raising the price of say a 2010 honda civic V fd by more than 100 THOUSAND PESOS since its launch in 2006?! its basically the same car with VERY minor upgrades!

first, thank you for pointing that out. but my 7th gen civic is still in the subcompact category. and oh, it has 127hp, not 104ps.

second, did you read my comparison? i compared apple with apple. seriously dude, you want to compare computers with car engines?

third, have you read my other post about invoice price? you might want to learn more about it so you will be armed with knowledge next time you buy your next car. it is unfortunate that philippine government is not mandating manufacturers to give this information to the public. but once you learn the invoice price, you can negotiate better. also, the price increase is plain economics. outside the philippines, actual money is being paid for services and parts -- no freebies. honda is a publicly traded company, where stockholders own shares. stockholders will not invest in honda if they will be gaining money if not losing. however, not all money goes to profit, a big sum of them goes to research. no research, no technology, no safety, no tomorrow. you want status quo? honda is not your company to look up to.