hazard light

[OTEP]

Ito yung chance natin na alamin kung ano ang tamang gawin. Most driving actions are universal and dapat matuto tayo based on what is universally acceptable not what that jeepney driver who cant even read road signs knows.

Dami ko na natutunan sa mga forumers dito and i guess it trickles down. Some people now understand what a flashing left turn signal on the overtaking lane means, why cars are driving with their lights on in the middle of the day, etc.

If we cannot change the wrong (and potentially dangerous) practice of other drivers, the least we could do is not imitate them.

[OTEP]

Nung araw (circa 1990) i started wearing my seatbelt. Now i realize i went 'against the flow'. Hehe

[Harangody]

Kasalanan rin ng LTO toh. Binebenta rin kasi nila yung mga codigo for the written exams kaya hindi na ina-aral ng mga tao yung rules.

[OTEP]

Yeah. Lto is corrupt in licensing and enforcing...

And ang pinoy naman, basta hindi nakasulat na bawal, ibig sabihin ay pwede. Hehe.

Hindi naman lahat ng tama ay dapat may legal basis. Minsan may practical or polite reasons din. safety is priceless.

[BratPAQ]

Hazard Light AKA "Park Anywhere Button".

Tawag ng iba dyan immortality button, nagiging imortal ang mag activate nyan, pede na silang sumingit singit, wag sundin ang traffic rules. hehe

Alam ko lang, basic driving technique dito sa atin sa Pinas is "go with the flow"!

Kung nakahazzard na mga kasabayan mo during heavy down pour e bakit hindi, yan naman ang common sa atin kasi nasa Pinas tayo at nagkakaintindihan tayong mga Pilipino. Same thing kung nagbabacking, dyan nakikilala kung taga saan ka at kung saan place mo. At dapat hindi naka-confuse sa mga kasamahan mong motorista, at added safety sabi nga.

Nagkakaroon lang ng double standard kasi maraming may dual citizenship dito sa atin.hehehe
(just kidding)

Sa Manila madalang ang nagtu-turn signal kung change lane lalo na kung nasa major roads ka, pero pag labas mo ng Manila ay unti-unting nagbabago attitude ng driver. So, lugar-lugar lang yan kung gusto mong mas maging maayos ang byahe mo.

one reason kaya bihira ako pumunta ng maynila, magulo, di mo na nga naman kailangang magsignal ng change lane kasi nga wala namang lane para sa kin kung gaano ako kaayos magdrive sa ibang city ganun din sa city tulad ng maynila, dahil di naman nagiging indestructible sasakyan ko immortal ang mga pasahero ko pag nasa maynila na. disiplina kahit saan.

The problem is if the driver will make a turn signal but forgets that his hazard lights are on.

kaya kailangan ng common sense, or kung makakalimutin talaga jeep at taxi na lang gamitin, sanay na tao na di sila gumaamit ng signal light

[Noel Salisipan]

Pakibasa na lang ang mga posts kung bakit di dapat nakahazard light pag malakas ang ulan. Hindi porke't ginagawa ng karamihan ng kasabayan mo eh magiging tama na iyan. So, kung maraming bobo ang pirmeng naka High beam pag magmaneho, puwede na rin silang gayahin?

Nabasa ko yun bro!
Sa akin naman kung makakabuti bakit hindi, yung highbeam selfishness yun at para sa mismong driver lang yun na nagmamaneho. Unlike hazzard like, it is to signal for extra carefullness sa mga nakakakita.

Hindi rin lahat ng tama nirerespeto kasi nasa pinas nga tayo, subukan mo lang magsignal light pag change lane ka ewan ko lang kung magawa mo after 2-3 car na magbigay sa daan na hinihingi mo.

Alam ko point nyo, proper use of hazard light, international standard, professional standard. Pero nasaan ba tayo, anong sitwasyon at ano ba pinagaralan ng mga karamihan sa atin!?

[Noel Salisipan]

Go with the flow din ba dahilan ng mga tukmol na ayaw umalis sa overtaking lane kasi 100kph na daw ang takbo nila?

At yung mga ambulance na naka sirena na naka hazard pa at hindi sumisignal pag lumiliko dapat na din gayahin ng mga drivers namin kasi mas madaming mga untrained drivers na ganun ang ginagawa?

Nagtatanong lang din.

Ipagpaubaya natin sa mga tukmol ito!hehehe

[Noel Salisipan]

Ito yung chance natin na alamin kung ano ang tamang gawin. Most driving actions are universal and dapat matuto tayo based on what is universally acceptable not what that jeepney driver who cant even read road signs knows.

Dami ko na natutunan sa mga forumers dito and i guess it trickles down. Some people now understand what a flashing left turn signal on the overtaking lane means, why cars are driving with their lights on in the middle of the day, etc.

If we cannot change the wrong (and potentially dangerous) practice of other drivers, the least we could do is not imitate them.

Agree naman ako dito Bro.

Yun nga lang ang changes ay unti-unti, di natin maapura yun dahil hindi lahat ng driver e pare-pareho ng knowledge.

For now kailangan talaga nating mag-adopt ng sistema kung nasaan tayo pero for good ng mas nakakarami.

Yun lang naman ang point ko, kung nasaan ka e makibagay ka pero siguraduhin na mas marami matutuwa sa action mo, o mas appropriate sa lugar mo!

[falken]

Nabasa ko yun bro!
Sa akin naman kung makakabuti bakit hindi, yung highbeam selfishness yun at para sa mismong driver lang yun na nagmamaneho. Unlike hazzard like, it is to signal for extra carefullness sa mga nakakakita.

Hindi rin lahat ng tama nirerespeto kasi nasa pinas nga tayo, subukan mo lang magsignal light pag change lane ka ewan ko lang kung magawa mo after 2-3 car na magbigay sa daan na hinihingi mo.

Alam ko point nyo, proper use of hazard light, international standard, professional standard. Pero nasaan ba tayo, anong sitwasyon at ano ba pinagaralan ng mga karamihan sa atin!?

Wow! So dapat pala gayahin natin ang ang mga maling ginagawa ng iba dahil nasa Pinas tayo. Good reasoning.

[gongrhey]

generally i don't use my hazard light during heavy rain i turn on my headlight. pero may experience ako that i use it during a very heavy downpour sometime early 2000 while driving sa NLEX. sa sobrang lakas ng ulan yung wiper naka-set na sa pinakamabilis. ang takbo namin around 50-60 na lang at pero very poor yung visibility so ang guide ko na lang yung blinking hazard light ng nasa unahan ko. i believe case to case basis din.

[onewaytrip]

eh bakit ang kotse sa F1, naka-"hazard" 'pag umuulan?

[12vdc]

eh bakit ang kotse sa F1, naka-"hazard" 'pag umuulan?

Para ma confuse ang ibang F1 driver at hindi sya overtakean.

Try mo dalhin ang F1 kotse mo sa EDSA at mag hazard light ka, baka sakaling hindi ka hulihin kasi road legal yan sa Pinas.

[Noel Salisipan]

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Wow! So dapat pala gayahin natin ang ang mga maling ginagawa ng iba dahil nasa Pinas tayo. Good reasoning.

Ikaw may sabi nyan!

Point ko lang, "hindi lahat ng mali e nakakasama At hindi lahat ng tama ay nakakabuti".

[marg]

generally i don't use my hazard light during heavy rain i turn on my headlight. pero may experience ako that i use it during a very heavy downpour sometime early 2000 while driving sa NLEX. sa sobrang lakas ng ulan yung wiper naka-set na sa pinakamabilis. ang takbo namin around 50-60 na lang at pero very poor yung visibility so ang guide ko na lang yung blinking hazard light ng nasa unahan ko. i believe case to case basis din.

Actually, a certain number of US States allow this:

Ohio law permits the use of hazard lights while driving in "unfavorable atmospheric conditions"

Could hazard lights be a hazard for moving cars? Road Rant | cleveland.com

[Noel Salisipan]

generally i don't use my hazard light during heavy rain i turn on my headlight. pero may experience ako that i use it during a very heavy downpour sometime early 2000 while driving sa NLEX. sa sobrang lakas ng ulan yung wiper naka-set na sa pinakamabilis. ang takbo namin around 50-60 na lang at pero very poor yung visibility so ang guide ko na lang yung blinking hazard light ng nasa unahan ko. i believe case to case basis din.

I agree with this.

Kung mali man ang mag hazard during heavy down pour, ito na yung mali na nakakabuti. Both sides, sa harap, sa likod at syempre ikaw na driver.

Hindi mo naman kilala yung driver na bumubuntot sayo kung proper ang standard o hindi. Importante mas may chance mag-ingat lalo ang isat-isa pag may hazard light sa ganung sitwasyon.

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IMO, the use of hazard lights during a downpour is a common practice here. Not to say that it's correct. Safe? Not necessarily. Confusing is more like it.

I guess it stems partly from the fact that not too many of us (myself included) religiously use his or her signal lights when changing lanes, hence no real feeling of losing out on the use of signal lights.

Another fact incorrect hazard usage could have come from is that we operate at speeds much lower than countries like the US or Canada or Europe. Since we're slower, there's a feeling of the capability of last minute determination of whether a vehicle is stalled or just moving slowly, and the necessary avoidance that should come after.

There's a bit too much "winging it" on our part. Sure, this makes a Filipino driver more flexible than our US counterpart, and perhaps more skilled to a degree, but adjusting and adhering to international driving standards is actually a good thing.

I still believe tail lights are the key. Vehicle Owners and operators must ensure that their tail lights are working properly and are visible. If these no longer do so, then the vehicle is not safe and compliant.

RFLs might be a good idea, assuming people getting them installed know what they're for. Some folks just slap on a fog lamp and turn this on in bad weather. Defeats the purpose of trying to be safe.

[Retz]

on this part, i am sometimes guilty. na-minimize ko itong practice when i drove our visiting american colleague around the city, and uttered WTF u're doing man, confusing bet your backing out intention w/ hazard light... pero i reasoned out na rin na hindi talaga kadalasan nirerespeto ang umaatras pag pure reverse light lang... on a side note, this is more debatable than using it during heavy downpour. peace.

Yes, I'm not sure if this is a good practice or required whenever you are doing reverse/backing in your vehicle.

[vinj]

The never ending hazard (a.k.a. the immortal, unlimited lives and unlimited traffic violation) light is up again.

Being a regular road user on NLEX, please don't use hazard lights while driving in the rain. If your visibility is very poor due to a very strong downpour then pull over at the nearest gas station or emergency area (dyan pwede ka mag hazard magdamag kung gusto niyo, until the weather improves).

If you have properly operating wipers, good wiper blades, and travel at the proper speed consummate to the conditions with ample space inbetween you and the car in front (around 4-5 seconds distance), you can still see the park lights of the vehicle in front of you and when he brakes, you'll definitely see that as well and have enough room to slow down, or signal and switch lanes if necessary.

RFLs or rear courtesy lamps are much, much better. Just ensure to hook it up with its own switch or with your front fog lamps switch as some people merely hook it up with their parklights and it can be quite glaring to the person following from behind during normal weather driving.

[cast_no_shadow]

Isama na dito yung mga Hinayupak na SUV ng mga congressman na nag counter flow pag traffic.

Parang bawal sila huminto sa traffic.

ayun high-beam tapos turn on the hazard lights, salubungin ang kasalungat na daan.

[falken]

Ikaw may sabi nyan!

Let me refresh your memory,

Alam ko lang, basic driving technique dito sa atin sa Pinas is "go with the flow"!

Ang point nga dito is nakakalito pag naka hazard light tuwing malakas ang ulan. Hindi ba nakakasama ang malilito ang kapwa mong driver. Nakakalito na nga, pinagpipilitan mo pang nakakabuti. And naging alibi mo pa sa paggamit ng hazard is hindi naman importante yung paggamit ng signal light.

Hindi rin lahat ng tama nirerespeto kasi nasa pinas nga tayo, subukan mo lang magsignal light pag change lane ka ewan ko lang kung magawa mo after 2-3 car na magbigay sa daan na hinihingi mo.

Sablay pa rin eh. Pag alam mo nang mali ang ginagawa ng iba, kahit marami pa sila. Huwag mo silang gayahin. Don't go with the flow.

Alam ko point nyo, proper use of hazard light, international standard, professional standard. Pero nasaan ba tayo, anong sitwasyon at ano ba pinagaralan ng mga karamihan sa atin!?

Kahit nasaang lugar tayo, pairalin mo yung tama, di mo kailangan gumaya, mas mabuti pang ipakita mo yung tama. Be an example.