DAR chief, son allegedly mauls golfers [2012 edit: and now security guards, too]

[Galactus]

as usual, go against the flow para kontrobersyal.... dating gawi...

Exactly!!! Style talaga ni OB, bulok. Kesyo may kakilala at kamag-anak pa daw sa Valley Golf ha? Baka nga itsura ng putter or sand wedge, hindi alam ni OB.

Bagong taon na OB, mag-bago ka na rin ng style.

My take on the incident: Hothead yung tatay na dela Paz. I'm inclined to think that he did use an umbrella to poke and confront the younger Pangandamans on the green. May pagka-arogante siguro ang dating. He may have been used to getting his way before. Kaya nagulat siguro when they fought back. After this incident, I doubt kung siga-siga pa rin siya sa golf course (for a few months at least).

IMO, to prove that delicadeza is still alive, dapat mag-resign na si Sec. Pangandaman. And he should apologize to the dela Paz family and make restitution (financial or otherwise). That would make him a bigger man.

[oliver1013]

Si Bush nga presidente ng pinakamalakas na bansa sa mundo binato ng sapatos, yung attacker ni restrain lang at dinapa hindi kinuyog ng paulit ulit...

E kung si Bush kaya pagkabato ng sapatos at ilag, bumaba sa podium at pinagtatadyakan,suntok,siko,pyle driver, power bomb ang ginawa sa bumato,hindi ba maainis din tayo knowing na he is a man of such stature gagawa ng ganun?

[Gumusut_Amige]

IMO, to prove that delicadeza is still alive, dapat mag-resign na si Sec. Pangandaman. And he should apologize to the dela Paz family and make restitution (financial or otherwise). That would make him a bigger man.

ito ang problema sa karamihan ng politicians natin... mukhang burado na sa dictionary nila ang word na 'to! at kadalasan ang politician na meron pa nito ay sinususpendi o ginagawan ng "fictitious case" laban sa kanya.

[oliver1013]

Sabi nga ni erpats buti pa nung panahon ni Marcos kahit madami siyang kalokohang ginawa concerned parin daw siya sa public image niya or at least may effort to look good. Kahit daw ka alyado niya kung may pumutok na scandal talagang pinagbabantaan daw niya at kung di pa nagbago "tinototoo". Yung ngayon daw sus lantaran talaga. Wala na tayong(taongbayan) pinanalo kahit isa

[ab_initio]

Kung may delicadeza si cabinet official, he should resign. And the mayor son should at the very least, make a personal and public apology. Eh mukhang walang mga pinag-aralan at pinagkatandaan ang 2 ito eh.

nakupo! di uso yan dito...just take the case of our convicted leader! akala mo alang nangyari...may moral ascendancy pa kuno. that's preposterous...

no one's too willing to do a Nixon. kapal talaga!!! tangina nila!

[actor21]

nakupo! di uso yan dito...just take the case of our convicted leader! akala mo alang nangyari...may moral ascendancy pa kuno. that's preposterous...

no one's too willing to do a Nixon. kapal talaga!!! tangina nila!

ma'am puso nyo naka stepler lang yan hehehehe...kung sino ang nagpapasuweldo (taong bayan) yun pa ang takot..at kung sino naman ang pinapasuweldo't nangungurakot e yun pa ang galit sa amo(taongbayan padin)

[Firefighter]

Got this from another site:



I just spent some time with the head of the fact-finding committee. He has submitted all pertinent facts to the board and leaves it to them to make the necessary decision based on all the facts. I will outline the facts to you as it was outlined to me. Rest assured that the facts were obtained from all parties involved and all witnesses at each incident site. The statements were obtained both by the valley fact-finding group and by the NBI as well. Testimonies were recorded, verified, and re-verified. Fortunately for the parties involved, there were always witnesses to give supporting statements on the events as they occurred.

I will compose the outline shortly as it will be lengthy but just to whet your appetite or get you thinking, you will be quite surprised with the findings. Let's put it this way, the people we thought of as villains weren't quite what they were depicted to be. and the supposed protagonists may have yet been quite as factual in their testimony as it turns out to be. Even our 14-year old isn't as innocent and "prayerful" when all the details come out. just give me a few minutes....

In the interest of making sure that no facts might be left undisclosed, I will take it upon myself to start from the very beginning. Firstly let us start by saying that on or at about 12:40 p.m., the party of the Pangandaman's registered at the starter's area. They registered for 2 flights comprised of 4 individuals per flight. Unfortunately, they still had 2 members of their group that had not yet arrived, so they initially tee'd off as 2 successive threesomes. The starter and marshall were informed that the 2 individuals that had not yet arrived would just catch up with them in the fairway. On or at about 1:05 p.m. the Dela Paz group registered initially as a twosome but since this isn't normally allowed, they registered as a 3-some even if the elder Mr. Dela Paz was not really going to play.

When the Dela Paz 3-some was playing on hole number 3, they were passed by 2 golf carts containing Mayor Pangandaman and his companion (in one cart) and the caddies being brought by one of the starter personnell. The Pangandaman's did not ask permission to drive through because they did not want to disturb the Dela Paz's who were in the middle of the fairway. Upon reaching the green of the 3rd hole, Mr. Dela Paz asked the caddie why the people in the cart just went through. Mayor Pangandaman who was already positioned at the 4th hole, personally informed Mr. Dela Paz that they were part of 2 foursomes. At this point, Mr. Dela Paz said "ah okay, courtesy lang naman". This was verified by the caddies. Mr. Pangandaman said that he did not disturb them anymore because the player was about to hit. At this point, Mayor Pangandaman thought everything was okay so he proceeded to the 4th hole (Par 3) where his other flightmates were. In the records it says that Mr. Pangandaman was not yet even done pitching into the green when a ball landed near his 8-year old child so they immediately made sure the child was secured in the cart. ( For those unaware of the common practice at Valley Golf, on every par 3, the group behind you is signaled to hit into the green once everyone from your group is already on the green) Until you have been cleared to hit by the group ahead, you should not hit into the green. It is common sense and basic precautionary procedure.

In this particular case, we have no corroborative testimony. One set of caddies say they were given clearance, while the other say that no clearance was given as of yet when the ball/s had landed.

The Pangandaman's claim that the same situation happened in the 5th hole (Par5). Even the caddied confirmed this. At this time, Bambee Dela Paz had called the Marshall to tell him that the flight behind them was complaining about why their pace was slow and that the cause of the delay was the 5-some in front of them. Shortly thereafter, a marshall on his motorcycle appeared and approached the Pangandaman's and asked if they were playing as a fivesome to which the Mayor said no. "We are 2 foursomes". Nonetheless, the Pangandaman's had already agreed among themselves that they would rather the Dela Paz's play through. The Mayor was even quoted saying to his Father. " magagaling yung mga bata at malakas pumalo, baka mabagalan sa atin" They informed the marshall that they would just let the Dela Paz group play through and the marshall informed the Mr. Dela Paz of this. ( Just as an aside, the investigative group actually asked the group behind Dela paz if indeed they had complained about the slow down and the group said that the y said no such thing to the Dela paz flight. They were not even in contact at anytime before they arrived at the tee house to see the fight and eventually help stop it) When the Delapaz group reached the green of hole 5, the caddies of the 2 kids gave them their drivers so that they would waste no time playing through. The Mayor, who at that time was sitting along with their companions, stood up to personally tell Mr. Dela Paz to play through. Caddies, and the tee house server claim that the Mayor told Dela Paz na "Mauna na ho kayo" and walked to approach Dela Paz, The response of Dela Paz was "Huwag mo akong pagtaasan ng boses" Dela Paz began to question the Mayor why they were playing as a fivesome. The Mayor said that this was not the case but Dela Paz was insisting and even said (again corroborated by the caddies) "Linoloko mo ba ako?" "Member ka ba dito, Kilala mo ba ako?" (as you can see, this question did not come from Pangandaman. In fact, in the recorded testimony, this is exactly what Pangandaman claimed delapaz had said to him and yet in Delapaz' recorded statement, he never said that the mayor asked him " kilala mo ba ako" Completely different from when the media was already involved.

When Delapaz was posing the above question, the mayor was heard to say. "Sandali lang, hindi naman tayo nagaaway dito. Akala ko ba naayos na natin yung issue kanina sa hole 3? At about this point Delapaz closed his umbrella and then poked the mayor on his stomach using the pointed end ( some caddies say Dela Paz swung the umbrella and some say that he poked the Mayor) The investigative board asked Dela Paz what he did, he said that he poked the Mayor in self defense. When asked who was attacking him, Dela Paz said that he was being surrounded by 4 men. The caddies and other witnesses on hand said that when the umbrella incident happened, it was only Dela Paz and the mayor that were talking. The other parties were in the tee house about 15-20 yards away. The Mayor says he was poked and so he backed off and just as he was about to be poked again, his brother, Hussein ran and attacked Delapaz and hit Delapaz knocking him to the ground.( At this point the commotion took place. One of the things observed is 14-year old Bino hit the Mayor with his driver. Apparently, the mayor parried with his forearm and hand so this is where he sustaned the injury. In the process also, Hussein was being pulled off the older dela paz by his 2 children but again Bino was seen to hit Hussein in the face and head while Bambee had scratched the other side of Husseins face. At this time also, witnesses say, that 3 or 4 other members of the flight excluding the Secretary, the 8-year old boy, and the girlfriend of Hussein were involved in attacking or subduing the older dela paz but this lasted very shortly and when the combatants had been separated the existing people in the tee house as well as the new flight that was playing behind the dela paz's.

At this point the Secretary told the delapaz group to leave so as to avoid any more trouble. As the elder delapaz was leaving he was heard calling someone on his cellphone saying " may away kami, pumunta kayo dito"
No one knew who delapaz was speaking to as he walked away towards the main clubhouse. A few minutes later, the secretary and his group decided to end the day instead of continuing to play. When they got to the clubhouse, Hussein wanted to wash up because he was bleeding in the neck area. As he got near the reception area, he saw delapaz and was heard to have said "O, nandito pa pala kayo" to which Dela Paz said "Hindi pa tapos ito gaganti pa kami". At this point, Bino got in between his Dad and Hussein while saying " Tatandaan ka namin" (None of the witnesses in the clubhouse, and there were many, ever saw Bino kneel and say that he was only 14 years old at maawa na sila) On the contrary, Bino was acting like anything but a helpless child. He sounded tough, angry, and antagonistic enough that the fight broke out again. At this point, the bodyguards of the Mayor ran into the clubhouse via the poolside entrance. When questioned about this, the mayor said that one was his driver and the other was his "Yayo". As far as the board was concerned, the "Yayo" was also a bodyguard. Said Yayo came into the clubhouse with a clutchbag containing a gun and brought out the gun without pointing it at anyone. The Mayor immediately instructed him that there was no need for guns and the gun was put back. During the investigation, the Mayor said that the handgun was his and that his "yayo" was likely going to give it to him but he declined. Upon instructing his "yayo", the man just stayed in one corner. At this time the wife of Dela Paz and his other son arrived. The son was wielding a baseball bat and the wife had a knife which she pulled out of a scabbard. These two were subdued by security but they were verbally threatening the Pangandaman's during this time. There was also a reported incident where the driver of the mayor ran out and came back with a suitcase containing a supposed armalite as claimed by valley security. The driver never pulled it out or pointed it at anyone but it was readily accesible

[carbomb]

just heard in the news a while ago that atty. raymond fortun will represent the dela paz family. what???? kala ko ba mahirap sila
kumuha ng celebrity lawyer. he he he he. ika nga nila eh it takes two to tango. sabihin na natin na makapangyarihan ang mga mokong na politikong yan, di naman basta basta mag sisiga-sigaan yan sa isang golf club na pawang puros mayayaman,maimpluwensyan,at mga walang magawa sa buhay kundi ang magpalipas ng oras at salapi sa pag go golf. ilag din naman yang mga yan kaso nga na provoke eh. kaya bahala na sila sa buhay nila. Bayaan nyo nga silang lahat diyan at manuod na lang tayo ng dyosa. ha ha ha lapit na katapusan eh.

[Galactus]

Nice report. Makes good sense, taken in light of all witness and protagonists accounts. Kaya lang medyo bitin, and seems one-sided (in favor of the Pangandamans).

At any rate, dapat talaga mag-resign pa rin si Sec. Lintek naman kasi tong si Pandak, dapat pagalitan niya in public yung tao niya, para may kumpiyansa man lang kahit konti yung investigating bodies. Eh ni verbal reprimand, wala.

[monkey_wrench]

very interesting developments! abangan ang susunod na kabanata!