the many problems of owning a ford focus

[mda]

Isa actually sa options namin yung Honda Civic Fd 2.0 2010.

But read somewhere na marami rin siyang issues. Haha. Sobrang torn na kami.

Budget lang din kasi ay around 200-300. Kaya limited options.

Can't say there aren't few issues with the FD, but most of them probably are NOT drivetrain related (i.e. lower chance of getting stranded)

Game of chance lang naman ito. Which type of car is more likely to leave you stranded? Hehehe

[jokwa114]

Can't say there aren't few issues with the FD, but most of them probably are NOT drivetrain related (i.e. lower chance of getting stranded)

Game of chance lang naman ito. Which type of car is more likely to leave you stranded? Hehehe

Kumbaga, talagang Civic or Corolla na lang best choices no? Considering the budget?

May mga dapat ba akong iwasang year nung dalawa? Or wala naman?

[_Cathy_]

Is the Ford Focus really that bad?

We're planning on getting a second hand 2008-2010 Ford Focus Hatchback.

Reading this thread, I am now hesitant. Please enlighten me.

My friend drives a focus around that age (Z plate), sobrang sakit ng ulo. Hindi siya nawawalan ng kwento sa mga problema ng focus He stopped using the focus and drove their older civic instead (X plate)

[Egan101]

It depends on the engine and tranny option for the Focus. Those models with MT trannies are not as problematic as those with the Powershift DCT tranny. The gas models with the traditional AT tranny are less worrisome also. For those Focus with Powershift DCT trannies, a few did have catastrophic tranny failures but a lot of them are still running on the road. From a maintenance perspective, it just happens that only a few local mechanics are well-schooled in fixing DCT trannies since it is not a common option for Asian cars. DCT or DSG is more common with Euro cars. As we all know, Ford cars are designed in Europe while their SUVs and trucks are designed in the US or Australia.

If you prefer MT and a diesel, a Focus TDCI MT is a good bargain for used car buyers.

Now, if you prefer something Japanese, you can never go wrong with a Civic or Altis. They are still not free of issues (like the engine support issue with the Civic FD) but the ease of maintenance is a plus for them. If you want something cheaper, a Sentra N16 or Mazda3 will be worth considering since their resale value is lower than the Civic or Altis.

[mda]

Kumbaga, talagang Civic or Corolla na lang best choices no? Considering the budget?

May mga dapat ba akong iwasang year nung dalawa? Or wala naman?

As the owner of an 11 year old FD 1.8 AT that is still seeing use 3-7 days a week:
Repair history namin:
1. Engine Support (1 of the 3) die every 3-4 years.
2. Starter motor rebuilt
3. Rear Wheel bearing replaced
4. Front shock absorbers replaced
5. Power steering high pressure hoses replaced
6. AC Pulley making a weird sound at present -- sabi ni speedyfix hindi pa raw kailangan palitan until the AC loses its temperature
7. Window motors needed a little fixing
Recommendations for FDs will be in this order assuming automatic hanap mo: 2.0S-L 2007-2008 OR 1.8S 2009-2012, 2.0S 2009-2012, 1.8S 2006-2008

For a Corolla of the same age:
1.6L ZZ engine tends to sludge up.
You may want to find a 1ZR engine (Corolla 10th gen facelift) 1.6G/V
Recommendations: 2009-2011 1.6V / 2.0, 2007-2008 1.8V (medyo rare), all others
Get the V variant if maliit yung price diff vs the G variants

[jokwa114]

It depends on the engine and tranny option for the Focus. Those models with MT trannies are not as problematic as those with the Powershift DCT tranny. The gas models with the traditional AT tranny are less worrisome also. For those Focus with Powershift DCT trannies, a few did have catastrophic tranny failures but a lot of them are still running on the road. From a maintenance perspective, it just happens that only a few local mechanics are well-schooled in fixing DCT trannies since it is not a common option for Asian cars. DCT or DSG is more common with Euro cars. As we all know, Ford cars are designed in Europe while their SUVs and trucks are designed in the US or Australia.

If you prefer MT and a diesel, a Focus TDCI MT is a good bargain for used car buyers.

Now, if you prefer something Japanese, you can never go wrong with a Civic or Altis. They are still not free of issues (like the engine support issue with the Civic FD) but the ease of maintenance is a plus for them. If you want something cheaper, a Sentra N16 or Mazda3 will be worth considering since their resale value is lower than the Civic or Altis.

Mukhang discouraged na ako sa Focus, since parang MT/Diesel combo lang yung matino.

With regards to Mazda3, saw somewhere na, masyado raw siya mabigat for its engine, kaya hirap masyado engine so malakas sa gasolina?

[Vodka]

this is the sort of thing that's making me hesitate in getting a FORD

eh kung ecosport m/t kaya?

[mda]

Mukhang discouraged na ako sa Focus, since parang MT/Diesel combo lang yung matino.

With regards to Mazda3, saw somewhere na, masyado raw siya mabigat for its engine, kaya hirap masyado engine so malakas sa gasolina?

Only heard about that for the first gen mazda3 1.6, the 2.0 is decent.

[Egan101]

Mukhang discouraged na ako sa Focus, since parang MT/Diesel combo lang yung matino.

With regards to Mazda3, saw somewhere na, masyado raw siya mabigat for its engine, kaya hirap masyado engine so malakas sa gasolina?

Yung Focus 2.0L gas 2006-2008 with traditional AT tranny oks din naman yun. Its platform is shared with the Mazda3 and Volvo C30 since during those times, Mazda and Volvo were owned by Ford.

[jokwa114]

Only heard about that for the first gen mazda3 1.6, the 2.0 is decent.

So a Mazda 3 2009 Hatchback, would be a good car?

[Egan101]

So a Mazda 3 2009 Hatchback, would be a good car?

I think the hatchback came only with the 1.6L engine. The 2.0L Mazda3 came in sedan form with sunroof and stock 17" rims.

If you want something different for something around 200k to 300k, maybe you can consider the Mazda6 2.3L 2006-2008 or the Honda Accord 7th gen 2003-2007. Fuel consumption would be about the same as the 2.0L compacts but you get bigger interior space and more powerful engines. Another option is the Civic ES 2.0L 2004-2005 but its platform is older.

[jut703]

this is the sort of thing that's making me hesitate in getting a FORD

eh kung ecosport m/t kaya?

My staff's Ecosport Trend MT has 77,000 km already and so far nothing major has been replaced - just the usual oil change.

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[jokwa114]

I think the hatchback came only with the 1.6L engine. The 2.0L Mazda3 came in sedan form with sunroof and stock 17" rims.

If you want something different for something around 200k to 300k, maybe you can consider the Mazda6 2.3L 2006-2008 or the Honda Accord 7th gen 2003-2007. Fuel consumption would be about the same as the 2.0L compacts but you get bigger interior space and more powerful engines. Another option is the Civic ES 2.0L 2004-2005 but its platform is older.

Thanks!

Am now choosing between Altis 1.6V/G (2009-2011) or Civic 1.8s (2006-2009).

Was almost about to consider a Mazda 3 2.0, but read na it has lackluster FC compared to the two mentioned above.

Almost considered the Accord, the 2003-2007 design seems to have not aged at all, but ultimately did not because of FC and potential high maintenance cost because parts maybe a lot more expensive.

[lowslowbenz]

Budget lang din kasi ay around 200-300. Kaya limited options.

Out of the box suggestion.

Here's a nice Camry.

https://www.*******/item/2005-toyota...l?h=a098a5d482

[JJB]

Is the Ford Focus really that bad?

We're planning on getting a second hand 2008-2010 Ford Focus Hatchback.

Reading this thread, I am now hesitant. Please enlighten me.

Yup, really bad ang ford focus. Best example is my dad-in-law's 2010 focus tdci AT. Talagang transmission ang problem and ford libis quoted 400k! Kaibigan pa nya mga Laus and regilar ang pms! He eventually sold it still with a broken tranny at 180k only. For a 6yr old car, he lost almost 80% value.
Side note: he still has the previous model explorer which is still strong despite a few glitches. Baka mas matibay mga SUV ng ford than their sedans?


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[Egan101]

Almost considered the Accord, the 2003-2007 design seems to have not aged at all, but ultimately did not because of FC and potential high maintenance cost because parts maybe a lot more expensive.

Based on experience, I found midsize cars to be built tougher than compacts and subcompacts. They have better suspension and platforms. If you are looking at the usual oil change and filters, it will be around the same cost as with a compact plus just an additional liter of oil. Unless you have a broken engine or tranny or aircon or power steering system, then it will be expensive like a compact with a similar problem.

[jokwa114]

Out of the box suggestion.

Here's a nice Camry.

https://www.*******/item/2005-toyota...l?h=a098a5d482

Wouldn't a Camry, and transitively, an Accord, have worse fuel consumption compared to a Civic or an Altis?

[JJB]

Wouldn't a Camry, and transitively, an Accord, have worse fuel consumption compared to a Civic or an Altis?

Due to a bigger engine displacement and heavier body, definitely itll have worse FC


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[Egan101]

Wouldn't a Camry, and transitively, an Accord, have worse fuel consumption compared to a Civic or an Altis?

The usual compact with a small 1.6L engine would do around 7-8 km/L on hellish metro traffic. A midsize car with something like between 2.0L to 2.5L engines will do around 6-7 km/L, similar to gas CUVs (CRV, Forester, etc.).

An Accord or Camry or Mazda6 is more comfortable inside and quicker/faster than a Civic, Altis, or Mazda3. If you're willing to trade a bit of fuel expense for a better ride, then a midsize car is worth it.

[hypnos]

Yup, really bad ang ford focus. Best example is my dad-in-law's 2010 focus tdci AT. Talagang transmission ang problem and ford libis quoted 400k! Kaibigan pa nya mga Laus and regilar ang pms! He eventually sold it still with a broken tranny at 180k only. For a 6yr old car, he lost almost 80% value.
Side note: he still has the previous model explorer which is still strong despite a few glitches. Baka mas matibay mga SUV ng ford than their sedans?


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mine's still runs well at 75k. and i have a very heavy foot. the PS tranny even shifts better than when it was new(never jerked on me). i reckon your folks didnt service the tranny well. sayang the tranny could have been repaired by specialist at below half of what he was quoted. And yes, I would avoid Libis for service at all costs.
Side Note: the PS tranny maintenance is not included in the regular PMS. Contrary to ford's belief that it doesn't need servicing.