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I personally tried out their new features which is the Park Assist and Auto City Stop.
How do you guys find it?
Here is a video of me testing it out:
Ford Focus Experience -> View #135 Jeffrey Pascual
Would you agree that the price of PHP 1.2M is reasonable for this kind of monster?
I was actually rooting for the Ford Fusion but I believe it will be until next year upon arrival in the Philippines..
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Originally Posted by jrqp30
The price is simply too high at P1.2M. The older model could be justified because it was a turbo-diesel. With the current model, I find it hard to say the price tag of P1.2M is worth it because the Park Assist and Auto City Stop are just added "toys" that would not be missed if they were removed.
i wonder how park assist works. sana pwede din palagyan yung manual nav ko. :grin:
With all the electric nannies you'll find in more expensive euro brands, you could say the Focus is a real bargain at 1.2M. But it competes with more mainstream Jap brands here making it the more expensive among the compact roster, still, top line Japs costs about as much and not as well equipped. Add to that a new powerful engine, wonderful euro compliant ride and handling, features galore and a gorgeous styling. Still a bargain after all imo.
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Originally Posted by basti08
That powerful engine will also consume a lot of expensive gasoline. Not something most people would want in their compact sedan or compact hatch. People buying a car in this category would like a bit of style but fuel economy and purchase price still matters more as well as long term maintenance cost/service. This is why Japanese brands like Honda and Toyota will still be top choices.
It's a matter of priority. I believe this (Focus)could provide cross shopping among euro brand buyers rather than those of usual Jap sedan target market. I, myself, doesn't have the balls to own one. I tend to lean on simpler, much easier to maintain japs. But for those who could afford a rather bare A4 1.8 Non FSi or BMW 316i or Benz C180 or even a Volvo S40. The Focus (at least here locally), could put up a good fight against those euro sedans. Ford is not tagged as cheap brand here as it is elsewhere. Not only is it priced way down low, it offers greater features, amenities and up to par engines and even tranny (dual clutch)against those pricier entry level premium branded compacts.
Only the top of the line Focus has much of the "toys" ... the lower priced variants are pretty much bare and only a little more than basic transport. So comparing the top of the line Focus with the likes of BMW, Audi or Benz is a false comparison because the euro-car vs focus price tag difference is too big (euro car brand usually starting at P2M and up).Quote:
Originally Posted by basti08
Many would be comparing it with the likes of the Hyundai Sonata which has a much closer price tag or the cheaper Hyundai Elantra 1.8L or Toyota Corolla 1.6L or Mitsubishi Lancer EX GTA.
Yes, but because of the Focus' content is more closely resemble a premium euro sedan than a japanese compact. It would just be fair for the Focus to acknowledge its pseudo-premium brand packaging.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghosthunter
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mbiente:
1.6L 5MT/6PS AT
1.6L engine, All power amenities, Dual airbags, ABS, Anti theft system, EPS, 4w disc brakes, 16" wheel covers, 205/60R16 Michellin Primacy, 4 speakers. Ambiente 6PS AT adds: EBD, Hill launch assist, ESP
Trend:
Ambiente 6PS AT plus: 16" alloy wheels, 2 additional speakers (total of 6), 3.5" dot matrix multi info screen, Ford SYNC, front foglamps
Titanium Plus:
Trend plus:2.0L Ti-VCT engine, side airbags and curtain airbags, torque vectoring control (a brake based LSD), front and rear parking aid, active park assist, active city stop, BLIS, perimeter alarm (?), LED HID headlamps with DRLeds, power retract mirrors with puddle lamp, dual zone auto climate control, leather, titanium trimmings, 4way power driver seats, big power sunroof, auto dimming mirrors, smart keyless entry, engine start/stop, 3 additional speakers (total of 9), cruise control, global open and close windows, heated accoustic windshield, rain sensing wipers, auto on/off headlamps, retractable HL washers.
Those listed "content" or features is not anymore than what you would find in a top of the line car like the Subaru XV or Mazda CX5...Quote:
Originally Posted by basti08
which costs far more and categorically, are compact SUVs.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghosthunter
eto na yata yung Edmund comparison [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szQO32uV1vY]Comparison Test Video: 2012 Ford Focus Titanium vs. 2011 Hyundai Elantra Limited - YouTube[/ame]
ok kung ganon, local car enthusiasts can verify yung results ng Edmund
If it's worth the buy... the next thing I might have to ask is the maintenance value.
If in case of electronic malfunction, which it features, or breakdown, I wonder how repairs could be made and how much.
It's too bad that the features come only in 2.0 which fuel consumption would be a bit pricey in the end.
Not really. Compact SUVs are better value cars compared to the Focus for the same money. Example is the Mitsubishi ASX GLS 4x2 which has the same retail price at P1.2M as the top of the line Focus. Advantages of the ASX is bigger interior space and additional ground clearance. Or even just the Lancer EX GTA which is in the same car category and still cheaper than the Focus by around P100K.Quote:
Originally Posted by basti08
Just saying, for the same money (or adding a little bit more), you can get either a bigger better vehicle.
The Ford Focus is NOT comparable to euro-brands because it was meant to compare primarily to the Honda Civic in size and buying market.
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Originally Posted by jrqp30
That is the part, I am afraid, might cost the Focus owner quite a bit.
As always, you gotta be a brave heart to maintain one..
So if Chevrolet decides on bringing the price of the Cruze VDCi down at a lowly 1.1M do we have a new winner here? :grin:
Not really. The Chevy Cruze VDCi is still slow on the acceleration due to the fault of the A/T and the body design of the Cruze already feels dated just a year or two after it was initially launched.Quote:
Originally Posted by renzo_d10
Isn't the Lancer EX GT-A P1.295M, almost P96K more than the Focus Titanium + and Sport +?Quote:
Originally Posted by ghosthunter
The Focus is comparable to other non-luxury C-segment Euro cars (Golf, Astra, 308, C4, Mégane etc)Quote:
Originally Posted by ghosthunter
For the C-segment, most European companies usually benchmark two C-segment cars, the Focus and Golf.
The new Focus is still one of the top selling C-segment cars in Europe, and is number 1 in the UK (Golf is 2nd, Astra is 3rd)
true but you do get the P155,000 srp discount with the GTA. This lowers the price to P1.14M. That is already 60K cheaper than the Ford Focus.Quote:
Originally Posted by AG4
But we are not in europe.Quote:
For the C-segment, most European companies usually benchmark two C-segment cars, the Focus and Golf.
The new Focus is still one of the top selling C-segment cars in Europe, and is number 1 in the UK (Golf is 2nd, Astra is 3rd)
It really depends on the buyer, its more powerful 170PS 2.0L Ti-VCT GDi engine, and additional safety or handling features like the standard ESP(Electronic Stability Program), Active City Stop & Torque Vectoring System of the new Focus Sport+ and Titanium+ makes the additional P59K over the discounted GT-A's price worth it, and that's not counting its less important additional entertainment and convenience features previously only found in mid-size cars or luxury cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghosthunter
Of course, that's if you have the extra P59K to spend, if not, the older discounted GT-A seems to be a good alternative. :D
I know, this was in response to your comment "The Ford Focus is NOT comparable to euro-brands", it happens to be one of the cars other Euro brands actually benchmark.Quote:
Originally Posted by ghosthunter