2012 Ford Ranger

**jut703** · July 13th, 2014 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by number001

This may have been covered before already and I used the search function to no avail.

Why does the XL engine have less output than the XLT?

XL
Maximum Power (ps/rpm) :
120*3,700

Maximum Torque (Nm/rpm) :
285*1,500-2,500

XLT
Maximum Power (ps/rpm) :
150*3,700

Maximum Torque (Nm/rpm) :
375*1,500-2,500

They say it's because the XL has no VGT.

I think that Ford intentionally gave it less power because a lower state of tune means less stress on the engine and potentially better durability. Since the lower-end models are usually used as workhorses, durability is a primary consideration.

As you would see, all intercooler issues are with XLT and WT models.

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**Walter** · July 13th, 2014 08:53 AM

^^^ They made it like that so they could price it competitively for fleet purchases. Don't over analyze everything.

**jut703** · July 13th, 2014 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Walter

^^^ They made it like that so they could price it competitively for fleet purchases. Don't over analyze everything.

So why didn't they give the Defender the same 150hp/375Nm that the Ranger has? Why only 120hp/350Nm? Is it also because of cost?

Cost is one factor, but durability is equally important if you plan to use the truck as a workhorse.

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**niwde11** · July 13th, 2014 01:12 PM

stability. high center ang defender.

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**rktec G** · July 13th, 2014 01:26 PM

What do you think of this?

Cover lids / Canopies - Ford - FORD RANGER T6 (New) '11/2012->

is it worth than the locally available lid? more than 60kphp plus shipping cost.

**yebo** · July 13th, 2014 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by rktec G

What do you think of this?

Cover lids / Canopies - Ford - FORD RANGER T6 (New) '11/2012->

is it worth than the locally available lid? more than 60kphp plus shipping cost.

For half the price you can get a Pace Edwards roller lid that has the same features. AND that is with no shipping cost and already installed by a professional installer. E yan may shiping pa then babayad ka pa ng magi-install. And how about warranty and repair?

Answer is a big NO.

**jut703** · July 13th, 2014 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by niwde11

stability. high center ang defender.

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And an extra 30 hp will make it tip over? If you want on-road stability, get an anti-roll bar. Some Defenders actually came with it from the factory.

All Defender owners I've talked to prefer that their 2.2 Puma be slightly detuned if the tradeoff is better durability. Noone wants a broken intercooler in the middle of a jungle.

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**rktec G** · July 13th, 2014 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by yebo

For half the price you can get a Pace Edwards roller lid that has the same features. AND that is with no shipping cost and already installed by a professional installer. E yan may shiping pa then babayad ka pa ng magi-install. And how about warranty and repair?

Answer is a big NO.

I've read in some post here or other sites that Pace Edwards (not sure) and carryboy lid are not also worth it. Though that doesnt make this Greek product any better since no one had tested it yet. As mentioned, the locally available products would get stuck or misaligned and needs consistent maintenance to have it work properly. They also said that water leaks inside the bed.

Anyway, thanks for the info.

**yebo** · July 13th, 2014 06:18 PM

^^^ i have a pe, it only leaks when it rains really hard. Light to moderate rain the gutters can handle it. Baka naman the local roller lids you refer to are the ones without the vynil top.

All roller lids will require maintenance. Given na yan if you want one installed you must be willing to spend half a day every year to go back to the installer so they can clean and lubricate it. Or diy, if you are so inclined.

**rktec G** · July 13th, 2014 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by yebo

^^^ i have a pe, it only leaks when it rains really hard. Light to moderate rain the gutters can handle it. Baka naman the local roller lids you refer to are the ones without the vynil top.

All roller lids will require maintenance. Given na yan if you want one installed you must be willing to spend half a day every year to go back to the installer so they can clean and lubricate it. Or diy, if you are so inclined.

Im now inclined to get from PE, rather than this Greek product. Its just seems look better on their specifications and the toughness of the lid where 4 persons can sit on top of it, though of course we are not going to do that anyway.

Where can I get Pace Edwards roller lid for Wildtrak? Is there any supplier/installer, south of luzon?