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    #61
    I had a few more questions about keeping the EGR clean, Yes it keeps it clean and will extend its life by alot.

    Here are two vehicles, both have just over 100,000 miles or 160,000K the first one is without alcohol injection and was getting ready to install his kit and decided to check it since he had been having low fuel economy and alot of black smoke. By the way the EGR was dead and cost around 400USD to replace.




    Now this is alcohol injected since 50,000 miles he mostly just runs water to keep the EGTs down while towing the trailer. Almost like new what do you want on your vehicle? Once again this is a example of a kit paying for itself. This EGR will last the life of the vehicle with no replacement, cleaning or block-off plates needing to be installed to keep it clean.

    Plane and simple no carbon longer engine life.




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    #62
    Another question sir dvldoc - if i order a kit and for some reason i cannot go personally to clark on march 22 to claim it, what happens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan17 View Post
    Another question sir dvldoc - if i order a kit and for some reason i cannot go personally to clark on march 22 to claim it, what happens?
    Put in the comments section of your order that fact, and what mailing service you want to get it delivered to you with and I will get it delivered,, You will just have to pay the cost from Angeles city to there. If your in Manila then I can have you make arrangements for a pick up point for 500P.

    System in action this is a shot from our older kits, Your not going to get this with a windshield washer pump folks. You get a super fine fog like mist and this is key to the cooling effect. You have to have proper atomization of you solution into the intake for even distrubution through the intake and to cool the intake air charge.

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    #64
    dangit why have i stumbled upon this thread just now?! so now im guessing the EB pushed through, how was it?

    im actually more interested on installing this device in a NA gas engine.
    question is do you have a specific product for gas engines or would the universal kit do the trick. and how hard is it to install in an NA gas engine given that its design for a diesel engine?

    additional question is will this system work for a carbed engine?

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    #65
    sir dvldoc will you have an official distributor here in P.I. ? i'd like to put one in my engine although I still have to get it top overhauled this year. Another is how much power/torque (81hp/179nm) will I gain with my 2.5Ltr 4cyl diesel engine thats not turbo charged? tnx


    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    Put in the comments section of your order that fact, and what mailing service you want to get it delivered to you with and I will get it delivered,, You will just have to pay the cost from Angeles city to there. If your in Manila then I can have you make arrangements for a pick up point for 500P.

    System in action this is a shot from our older kits, Your not going to get this with a windshield washer pump folks. You get a super fine fog like mist and this is key to the cooling effect. You have to have proper atomization of you solution into the intake for even distrubution through the intake and to cool the intake air charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_gambit View Post
    sir dvldoc will you have an official distributor here in P.I. ? i'd like to put one in my engine although I still have to get it top overhauled this year. Another is how much power/torque (81hp/179nm) will I gain with my 2.5Ltr 4cyl diesel engine thats not turbo charged? tnx
    We don't have a distributor there yet, And is one of the reasons for the meeting and show of the kit is to get the word out. Were looking for a retailer to stock, sell and install the systems.

    As for your engine you would gain around 10% on a regular diesel maybe a little bit more depending on your alcohol concentration. It will burn all your fuel with the methanol so no more black smoke, you guys being in a hot climate you pick up additional power from the intake temp drop you could see as much as 12% more power you will have a nice bump in torque and the other benefits of the clean motor, lower intake temps and egts as and a lot less money spent on visits to.

    Bottom line alcohol injection will out perform Biodiesel hands down, more power at less throttle means better gas mileage, complete fuel burn equal less emissions, lower intake temps equal more power.

    The power down low will not be as extreme as on a turbo diesel because you can feel the system kick you back in the seat but you will notice it in daily driving. You will have to use a different type of activation switch like a momentary switch to activate the system or use or digital progressive controller. Any reputable auto service center should have no problems installing this kit. And even a novice should have no problem using simple tools.

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    #67
    Sir, just a question, i bought a brand new mitsubishi strada (triton) 2.5 diesel 4x2 CRDi with turbo-intercooler just last month. My total mileage reads 1800km only. Would i need the kit this early? I'm very impressed with all the stuff i read about this. But the thing is, installing it might give me warranty issues. So i have to make sure this will be all good for my engine. Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pauland View Post
    Sir, just a question, i bought a brand new mitsubishi strada (triton) 2.5 diesel 4x2 CRDi with turbo-intercooler just last month. My total mileage reads 1800km only. Would i need the kit this early? I'm very impressed with all the stuff i read about this. But the thing is, installing it might give me warranty issues. So i have to make sure this will be all good for my engine. Thanks in advance!
    Cannot void a factory warranty, There is nothing about the system that can cause any bit of damage to a vehicle. Its pretty much a secondary fuel system. You can also remove the kit in about 15 minutes. All the fittings are push to connect and disconnect in 1 second.

    The kit will keep you out of the shop not put you in it. Putting this on a new vehicle is one of the best things you can do for it because you are eliminating carbon buildup in the motor before it gets a chance to get started. Alcohol injection nearly doubles the life of your internals due to the lower exhaust gas temps and almost total lack of carbon build up. It also keeps things like 02 sensors and catalytic converters from failing due to carbon build up.

    So if you want more power, faster spooling turbo, reduced engine temps, reduced exhaust gas temps, almost no carbon build, better gas mileage. Then I would suggest a kit. The difference in performance is night and day. Take a Baguio trip with the kit and your going to power up those inclines with ease.

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    #69
    Bull's Eye Devildoc!
    The main reason I bought the water methanol injection unit is for my isuzu's accents in Tagaytay, Baguio and Bicol. Loaded with 10 people, a roofrack for baggages and essentails, trully a crawl or overheating without the assistance of the WM injection.

    The extra push and the cooling properties of alchohol and water solves that critical undertaking.

    The crosswind will be a good candidate for the W/M injection. As well as those turbodiesels that have turbos but not equipped with after/intercoolers, Chemical intercooling will be the best solution.

    Visited the Devils own site/forum after quite sometime and saw the 4cylinder univeral diesel option. Regarding +12 and -12 psi selection. Can you explain more so our peeps will understand the difference and will not be confused in selecting the right boost switch.
    Last edited by 4JGtootsie; February 23rd, 2008 at 01:56 PM.

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    For those who's engines make under 14psi or less than 1bar (I would go with the 2-10psi switch) or low boost

    If your vehicle makes from 1bar to 2 bar or 14psi to 30psi use the 6-30psi switch. Or high boost

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    1800 views, theres got to be more questions

    If you don't ask you'll never know right ?:evillaugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    1800 views, theres got to be more questions

    If you don't ask you'll never know right ?:evillaugh
    OK one question (might be a dumb one but here it goes) - how would you know how much pressure your engine makes?

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    You need to get a boost gauge (pressure gauge) You can either get a automotive boost gauge or go to some were like ace hardware and get a cheap 30psi pressure gauge. You just T into any vacuum line and run it to the guage so you can monitor how much boost your vehicle makes.

    You'll pick up PSI with the alcohol injection, If you ever add something like a manual boost controller this is absolutely critical that you have one.

    I will have one at the event at Clark to see the change and boost and show people the difference in boost rise.

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    #74
    sir dvldoc,

    would the boost gauge be permanent or just used to measure the psi to determine the right size of nozzle?
    i might order one but may not be able to join the march 22 EB. in the meantime, i need to figure out where to insert the pressure gauge.
    post na lang ako ng picture ng mazda MPV engine, then let me know where the gauge should be inserted.

    TIA

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    #75
    The automotive gauge you would mount the pressure gauge in a gauge pod our in your dash by drilling a 2 in hole to mount it. Many options for mounting. You vehicle uses a M2 nozzle 80% of the vehicles there will run a M2 or M3 nozzle, The larger engines 4 liter engines can run up to a M4 or M5 nozzle if they choose to raise the stock boost.

    You splice into any vacuum line to run the gauge

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    #76
    dvldoc, thanks for the explanation. if the 4 cylinder WI kit will include m2 and m3 nozzles, i will order earlier so as to avail of the discount . i'll just add $5 for the local courier cost to cover delivery from angeles to my home address in manila.

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    #77
    Sir dvldoc i'm thinking of using a large alcohol/water tank which i plan to locate in the rear cargo area of my isuzu trooper. Will the items that come with the Universal Kit allow me to do this kind of installation or do i have to place an additional order for something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan17 View Post
    Sir dvldoc i'm thinking of using a large alcohol/water tank which i plan to locate in the rear cargo area of my isuzu trooper. Will the items that come with the Universal Kit allow me to do this kind of installation or do i have to place an additional order for something?
    The kit is designed to to work with anything, The tap will work on any plastic container, (DO NOT USE METAL IF USING METHANOL)!!!

    You might require more hose for your system, I comes with 15 feet or 4.5 meters of nylon tubing, You can find similar tubbing at Ace hardware and other places, It is 1/4" OD (Outer diameter) nylon tubing. It just needs to be rated at 20bar or 300psi. Its pretty cheap per foot.


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    #79
    Sir dvldoc, i got charged for USPS shipping ($39.90) when i placed my order. I hope this will not be reflected in my credit card billing.

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    No worries my friend, This is your order details, The code takes out that shipping and it ships to me. But unlike some places the We do our best for 100% customer satisfaction You'll always get the price we quote so even if you forgot the code we would still give you the discount

    This is your order details.

    SKU # Tax Price (ex) Price (inc) Total (ex) Total (inc) 1 x 4 cylinder Turbo diesel stage 1 - High Boost +12psi 5001a 0% $220.00 $220.00 $220.00 $220.00 United States Postal Service (1 x 5.995lbs) (Priority Mail International (6 - 10 Days)): $39.90 Discount Coupons:salamat: -$39.90 Sub-Total: $220.00 Total: $220.00

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