Remote bypass oil filtration

[zix888]

Just got my mobil 1 turbo diesel truck, now 450 *trading post , 2nd floor of cash and carry

[Ry_Tower]

Just got my mobil 1 turbo diesel truck, now 450 *trading post , 2nd floor of cash and carry

P10 price hike ah. hehe

[sirkosero]

hey doc, do you know the technical specs of mobil1000? it readily available is it a good dino juice?

[zix888]

P10 price hike ah. hehe

Yup you are correct! I saw some mobil 1 15w-50 fully syn, is it also good? In case these tdt ran out?

[dvldoc]

hey doc, do you know the technical specs of mobil1000? it readily available is it a good dino juice?

It's no better and no worse than a oil of the same API rating that is group II oil.


Mobil Super 1000

Here is a good listing I found which breaks down oils brands with what group of oil they are ie. Group II, III, IV or V.


Auto-Rx (Philippines) | About Oil

[dvldoc]

hey doc, do you know the technical specs of mobil1000? it readily available is it a good dino juice?

It's no better and no worse than a Group II oil with the same API rating. Not a big fan of Group II as it has a lower TBN and will have to be replaced sooner. You would be better off with a group III oil.

Here's a good listing of some oils there with the groups types.

Auto-Rx (Philippines) | About Oil

[Ry_Tower]

Yup you are correct! I saw some mobil 1 15w-50 fully syn, is it also good? In case these tdt ran out?

Mobil 1 15W-50 Advanced Full Synthetic Motor Oil

API rated only as CF plus its rated SN which is not ideal for diesel per se, maybe better off using Mobil Delvac MX 15w40 or Mobil Delvac 1 5w40 instead if meron sila sa Trading post.

MOBIL DELVAC 1 5W-40
Viscosity, ASTM D 445
cSt * 40ºC 102
cSt * 100ºC 14.8
Viscosity Index, ASTM D 2270 151
Sulfated Ash, wt%, ASTM D 874 1.35
Total Base #, mg KOH/g, ASTM D 2896 12
Pour Point, ºC, ASTM D 97 -45
Flash Point, ºC, ASTM D 92 226
Density * 15ºC kg/l, ASTM D 4052 0.854


Moreso from 2 threads i've read they stopped making this already.

mobil 1 synthetic 15w 50 silver cap auto oil - Bob Is The Oil Guy

[miked]

^in contrary, API CF is rated for use with diesel fuels having greater than 0.5% ppm sulfur. higher than CF are those oils for use with fuels lesser than 0.5% ppm sulfur. not that i'm against those high ratings with regards to API ratings (actually, i've been a user of CI-4 delo gold multigrade). what i'm saying is if you use API rated oils higher than CF, you have to change your oil more often than when you are using CF. by the way, i dropped my pan for the first time and i'm really surprised with the internal condition. no sticky gunk on the pan as well as on the sides of the block. well, thanks to delo of course. found only bits of silicone sealant at the pump screen and on the pan as well. i filled her up again with valvoline CF-4 15w-40.

[zix888]

Mobil 1 15W-50 Advanced Full Synthetic Motor Oil

API rated only as CF plus its rated SN which is not ideal for diesel per se, maybe better off using Mobil Delvac MX 15w40 or Mobil Delvac 1 5w40 instead if meron sila sa Trading post.

MOBIL DELVAC 1 5W-40
Viscosity, ASTM D 445
cSt * 40ºC 102
cSt * 100ºC 14.8
Viscosity Index, ASTM D 2270 151
Sulfated Ash, wt%, ASTM D 874 1.35
Total Base #, mg KOH/g, ASTM D 2896 12
Pour Point, ºC, ASTM D 97 -45
Flash Point, ºC, ASTM D 92 226
Density * 15ºC kg/l, ASTM D 4052 0.854


Moreso from 2 threads i've read they stopped making this already.

mobil 1 synthetic 15w 50 silver cap auto oil - Bob Is The Oil Guy

Alright thanks for the info sir Ry_Tower

[jodyola13]

Yup you are correct! I saw some mobil 1 15w-50 fully syn, is it also good? In case these tdt ran out?

Sir bought mine at Shopper's Delight, 2nd floor also at Cash&Carry, 440 per quart and yes madami sila stocks ng engine oils there like Top1 and different grades of Mobil 1's, all made in USA

[Ry_Tower]

^in contrary, API CF is rated for use with diesel fuels having greater than 0.5% ppm sulfur. higher than CF are those oils for use with fuels lesser than 0.5% ppm sulfur. not that i'm against those high ratings with regards to API ratings (actually, i've been a user of CI-4 delo gold multigrade). what i'm saying is if you use API rated oils higher than CF, you have to change your oil more often than when you are using CF. by the way, i dropped my pan for the first time and i'm really surprised with the internal condition. no sticky gunk on the pan as well as on the sides of the block. well, thanks to delo of course. found only bits of silicone sealant at the pump screen and on the pan as well. i filled her up again with valvoline CF-4 15w-40.

As you said, higher rated diesel oil is good enough for 5,000kms COI.

[zix888]

As promised, here is my bd28(5000kms , oil on its 10000kms)

[dvldoc]

Filter held up like a champ, Oil is still pretty black but that's mainly from soot, The lower quality fuel there makes it hard to keep that from happening besides soot particles are down in the sub 10 micron range.

What are you using to cut your filters, that's a pretty clean cut.

[zix888]

Filter held up like a champ, Oil is still pretty black but that's mainly from soot, The lower quality fuel there makes it hard to keep that from happening besides soot particles are down in the sub 10 micron range.

What are you using to cut your filters, that's a pretty clean cut.

So should i use these filters for 10000kms? Or just 5000kms? I just cut those filters manually sir(saw). Thanks so much, we really need your expertise on this

[HardCharger]

According to dvldoc, you can use these filter for up to 12,000 KMs per oil change using a good quality oil. So you change every 12,000 KMs together with your oil, am I correct Doc?

[zix888]

According to dvldoc, you can use these filter for up to 12,000 KMs per oil change using a good quality oil. So you change every 12,000 KMs together with your oil, am I correct Doc?

Yup that's what doc mentioned before. I just wanted to show him the actual condition of the filter after 5000kms, because the oil is really black after 5000kms on these engines(4d56)

[dvldoc]

The oil being that black is not a big deal, soot particles suspended in oil can be as small as 5 microns, Even with the synthetic media filters engine like our 5.9 Cummins diesel turns black the day after you change the oil. Not much you can do about it. But it does not have a detroment to the oils service life. Some engines are just sooty which is a combination of not the best fuel and that's it's a diesel engine.

That filter is in rock solid condition, that media has a long way to go before it stops filtering, Remember these fitlers are designed for extended oil change intervals over factory oil filters.

If your changing them out every 5000km your just throwing away money. And for the bypass section the dirtier they get the better they filter. Changing them out early reduces this effect. In reality the bypass section is good until it stops flowing oil these filters hold about 4 times more dirt than most OEM filters so a 10000km to 12000km oil and filter change interval is advisable


But if you really want to know how your oil is doing get it tested. Found this link for a long time ago I don't know is this CAT dealer is still around but it might be worth a look.

http://tsikot.com/forums/other-troub...sis-lab-14481/

And here is a company that also does testing.

CRE Laboratory - Oil Analysis


PTT Philippines Corporation

[zix888]

The oil being that black is not a big deal, soot particles suspended in oil can be as small as 5 microns, Even with the synthetic media filters engine like our 5.9 Cummins diesel turns black the day after you change the oil. Not much you can do about it. But it does not have a detroment to the oils service life. Some engines are just sooty which is a combination of not the best fuel and that's it's a diesel engine.

That filter is in rock solid condition, that media has a long way to go before it stops filtering, Remember these fitlers are designed for extended oil change intervals over factory oil filters.

If your changing them out every 5000km your just throwing away money. And for the bypass section the dirtier they get the better they filter. Changing them out early reduces this effect. In reality the bypass section is good until it stops flowing oil these filters hold about 4 times more dirt than most OEM filters so a 10000km to 12000km oil and filter change interval is advisable


But if you really want to know how your oil is doing get it tested. Found this link for a long time ago I don't know is this CAT dealer is still around but it might be worth a look.

http://tsikot.com/forums/other-troub...sis-lab-14481/

And here is a company that also does testing.

CRE Laboratory - Oil Analysis


PTT Philippines Corporation

Alright doc, this will spare me from the hassle of topping up * 5000kms, plus save me a lot(filters and oil). Learned a lot from you doc, thanks. Oem filter cost around p900+ and needs to be replaced * 5000kms, while baldwin is just p765 to last upto 10000kms, this is really great!!!

[locoroco777]

sir zix, what oil are you using again? TIA

[zix888]

sir zix, what oil are you using again? TIA

Yung nasa image sir turbo xp ng mitsu 15w-50 fully syn. Yung inilagay ko ngayon is mobil 1 TDT 5w-40 fully syn