Remote bypass oil filtration

[dvldoc]

Diesels are tough, when talking about engines like Cummins were talking going millions of miles on the same motor on big rigs.

The question is using cheap filters is how much compression have you lost over time, how worn are your internals and how efficient is your engine still running.

Cheap filters like Fram for example collapes all the time leaving oil unfiltered.


Poor made filters like this OEM Honda with the typical cardboard end caps have cheap glue that breaks down and allows unfiltered oil to run through. Really not what I want to run on my POV.



How well do you think this is going to hold up.


You at least want your filter to have a metal end cap on both ends that covers the whole filter and a metal center tube so it does not collapse under pressure and a decent bypass valve in case it gets plugged and a good anti drain back valve so you don't have dry starts.

Filters should look like this after a average oil change. The one in the middle is a OEM Subaru made by Tokyo Roki.









The question is is do you want a filter that is this weak protecting your engine. Especially on a newer vehicle, These are big investments and repairs can be costly.


Nothing wrong with the basic filters as long as they meet the minum standards, they are fine for normal duration oil changes and that is no more than 8000klm. You should change the filter after that for sure.

But VIC filtration is below par

[Ry_Tower]

What i do is changed oil, oil filter and fuel filter for peace of mind every 5,000 kms. Only VIC is widely distributed that is good enough. Bosch also has poor distribution in the provinces kasi.

I also installed OCC to ensure cleaner turbo and prevent dirty oil and soot from coming back to the engine.

What i don't understand is why OEM oil filters perform poorly? Any tech guys here from one of the car manufacturers care to enlighten us?

[dvldoc]

What i do is changed oil, oil filter and fuel filter for peace of mind every 5,000 kms. Only VIC is widely distributed that is good enough. Bosch also has poor distribution in the provinces kasi.

I also installed OCC to ensure cleaner turbo and prevent dirty oil and soot from coming back to the engine.

What i don't understand is why OEM oil filters perform poorly? Any tech guys here from one of the car manufacturers care to enlighten us?

A oil catch can is a must and makes a world of difference.

Here's a quick clue about OEM, do you honestly think say Nissan wants your engine to last for double it's life. That's shooting themselves in the foot, they engineered this way for more frequent changes so you buy more filters and make more trips to the dealer to get them.

Lets look at this Nissan filter do you think they put a lot of design effort on these?







Of course not all OEM filters are of this poor quality but you get the point. This is not ment to be a tough filter just good enough to make it from oil change to oil change. The aftermarket is out there to provide a better product for better protection of your engine. This filter can be torn with no effort at all, heck it's not even Cellulose it's some kind of foam.

[crazy_boy]

I know many TD42's have dual filters and Pajeros 4D56 and 4M40's have a combo filter with 2 elements so basically a stacked bypass filter.

sir, so you mean 4d56, 4m40, and td42's are better since they have the dual filter set up?

[dvldoc]

sir, so you mean 4d56, 4m40, and td42's are better since they have the dual filter set up?

Better than a standard single filter system, but then again if your using low quality filters that can't filter efficiency then the difference is not much difference. But in theory it should work. The TD42's that do have the dual system do use a bypass system, They also have two different filter threads one is 3/4 16 and the other is 1-12UNF kinda weird. But I guess it keeps you from mixing up the full flow and the bypass filter.

[miked]

One more thing: How about the pressure loss after passing through the dual filtration system? Is it still within the acceptable pressure readings?

No doubt bibili ako ng magandang klaseng filter kung may available. Magkano lang naman. Ang problema ay wala masyado kaya regular change na lang.

Mabuksan nga sa weekend yung Vic na gamit na sa bahay. I'll check the internals kung ano klaseng material ang ginamit.

[crazy_boy]

Better than a standard single filter system, but then again if your using low quality filters that can't filter efficiency then the difference is not much difference. But in theory it should work. The TD42's that do have the dual system do use a bypass system, They also have two different filter threads one is 3/4 16 and the other is 1-12UNF kinda weird. But I guess it keeps you from mixing up the full flow and the bypass filter.

how about for 4D56 and 4M40, when you said combo filter, it doesnt have the dual filter right?

sir, i have a 4M40 motor, please expound. because we only change 1 oil filter everytime this is a very interesting topic


PS, do you plan to do a fuel filter study as well?

[miked]

sir, so you mean 4d56, 4m40, and td42's are better since they have the dual filter set up?

single filter lang naman ang mga ito pero ang sinasabi is pwede imodify to a dual set-up....

Actually, about 1 liter or a little bit greater than 1 liter ang nagcicirculate sa engine (ang usual order of lubrication is: oil pan-oil pump-crankshaft/piston-camshaft/rocker arms-oil pan). Oil cooler comes into play when the operating temp is achieved.

Eh bakit 4-6 liters ang usually kinakarga? the primary reason is cooling of the oil (aside from the dedicated oil cooler). The greater the oil, the greater time for the oil to dissipate the heat absorbed from metals grinding other metals.

Therefore, if you install dual filters dadami din ang kelangan mo na oil and so on aside from the fact na mas marami ang "screen" na magfifilter ng dumi sa oil..

[dvldoc]

sir, so you mean 4d56, 4m40, and td42's are better since they have the dual filter set up?

One more thing: How about the pressure loss after passing through the dual filtration system? Is it still within the acceptable pressure readings?

No doubt bibili ako ng magandang klaseng filter kung may available. Magkano lang naman. Ang problema ay wala masyado kaya regular change na lang.

Mabuksan nga sa weekend yung Vic na gamit na sa bahay. I'll check the internals kung ano klaseng material ang ginamit.

You may loose a psi or 2 but nothing that is outside the norm. Most higher quality filter actually flow better. We just did this on my co-workers F250 6.0 liter turbo diesel, he had no pressure loss. This is a very common filter mod.

[edtf]

as a side note baldwin filters are available here in the Philippines. I use their oil and fuel filter.