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April 15th, 2011 04:42 PM #151
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April 15th, 2011 06:02 PM #152Nice thread going here dvldoc. Thanks for sharing...
Anyway, just wanted to get more inputs from you, as you would know that the driving conditions here are typically warmer, and considered "heavy duty" especially if one drives in Manila's bumper-to-bumper traffic. So assuming that if most of the time, the vehicle is on idle or low speed, would you still advise having the by-pass or just changing to a bigger and better filter? I'm concerned about oil pressure. Would I need to install gauge then? How low is "acceptable low" when it comes to pressure?
I have a thousand questions in my mind, and am a firm believer in replenishing fluids faithfully so your thread is very helpful, indeed. Keep it up...
Please, don't mind the vermin roaming around...let's just "filter it out."
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April 15th, 2011 07:58 PM #153
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April 15th, 2011 08:49 PM #154
I can't really say how stupid your comments are, you know jack about water injection or how it's use, or the vehicle applications, We know all the vehicle applications the nozzles sizes, the mix, what works what doesn't I don't need to be a chemist to know that, we also a vendor on around 50 car forum including our own to answer question just like that.
Your almost so low on the intellect lever your really not worth arguing with. I been doing that gig for over 7 years. It's been around since the 1930's brain child These kits are on every make and model of car on the planet.
Please email the rest of the companies that make the kits how they need to do more research after the 10's and 1000's of vehicles we have already installed these on. Do you know what a dyno is, OBD-2 scan equipment, you ever build a motor or squeeze 1000hp out of a 4cly engine. Is anyone at your local dealer a chemist or scientist. How about Speedlab or Autoplus, or Bermmia diesel? Yet they know everything about cars, hmm that weird huh.
You simply come off as a CRAB and you seem to be jealous of everyone else and this is your only outlet to express yourself. Once again I will message the mods and I suggest the rest of the members do the same so we can get these childish and uneducated comments off the board for good.
You have no experience, you can't provide one bit of tech data on anything you say. It's because you have no clue what you are talking about. I bet you didn't even know for ever gallon of fuel burnt your car produces a gallon of water during the internal combustion process. Do you know anything about thermal dynamics? no you don't. I have a degree by the way, Navy pays 75% of your college while your in and you can get pale grants to pay the rest you'd be a fool not to use it. How many college level courses do you have.
You don't have to have a degree to understand how things work but you need to have some intelligence and there are plenty of tsikot members who are highly knowledgeable that I would seek advice with any day that might not be a scientist or chemist (it's called training). You just can't except your wrong, you don't know anything about the subject matters your speaking .
I guess all AFP members love war, and security guards that carry guns, or PNP, that's your logic not mine. Hmm lets see lets hang around people that want to kill us because of there stupid religious beliefs with no protection, that's a good ideal. World politics are beyond your grasp so stop reaching. I like to see how we like war.
I think we should do a poll to guess how old you are I am guessing around 16. Because these are not the comments of a adult with any kind of education. And as a health care professional as well I suggest you seek some professional help.
PUT UP SOME FACT or get out the tread EXPERIENCE what experience could you possibly have that outdoes anyone on here. Anyone else sick of this guy.
Oh I forgot you don't want to expose yourself whatever that means, You have already exposed more than enough.
Back to the subject at hand.
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April 15th, 2011 08:56 PM #155
Stop and go traffic is basically the hardest on your engine, Bypass is not for everyone, a good quality filter and good oil with the proper additives like Shells oils or Mobil1 are good enough for a long healthy engine life. The basic combo is good oil and good filtration. Do the oil catch can if possible, I didnt' say this but block the EGR With sythetic and a quality filter it's easy to do 10000 to 15000klm between oil changes.
The bypass filter set up does not effect your oil pressure you still have a full flow filters then the bypass filter only filters around 10% of the oil per pass. So after about 10 minutes it will have filtered all the oil in your engine. I keep a oil gauge just for a safety measure like a hose comes loose or something. Just did a kit on my co-workers F350 6L turbo diesel, oil pressure is like 2psi lower probably because the filters flow better.
(I highly suggest people report irresponsible posters on the forum)
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April 15th, 2011 09:18 PM #156
OT: do that And ignore all the troll's posts whatever the content. Do not reply to its posts (feeding). pls read about trolling, flame baiting.
i'll bite, why do you often call it sYThetic? my question before is about the bypass filter. are you adding that to your product lineup in Devil's Own?
i'm looking around at pvc pipe traps for an oil catch can but IDK if that can handle the temps.
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April 15th, 2011 09:40 PM #157
Yeah I am done with that guy. He's just embarassing himself.
Now are you asking why i call oil or the oil filters synthetic? (I did type -o it a few times, fat fingers I guess lol) The filters you use for a bypass set up have to be a synthetic fiber or super high efficiency cellulose synthetic mix of filter media. This is the only way to effectively remove the particles that are less than 20 microns in size.
PVC should have no issue holding up to engine heat as long as it’s not the thin cheap stuff. In my Grand Prix GTP I use a DIY PCV fenderwell intake system, never had a problem and it runs over the exhaust manifold.
If you mount your catch can along the side of the car like on the fenderwell you should have no issues. Even the ones with the clear plastic bowls on air compressor oil separator hold up fine under the hood.
And no we will never get into filters to many people speciallize in it already. I'm sure I will bring a few set-ups with me next year for anyone who wants to run one.
Try foam, steel wool or a steel scrub pad for your catch can's media they work the best at trapping the oil particles from the incoming air.Last edited by dvldoc; April 15th, 2011 at 09:43 PM.
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April 15th, 2011 10:15 PM #158
A good add on to this thread if people can post the aftermarket filters they see on the shelf there so we can tell you which are the good and the not so good.
So far we know this.
Fleetguard - Fleet service heavy duty filter
Baldwin- Fleet service heavy duty filter
Bosch- good over the counter filter
Mann- decent filter not the best specs for efficiency but well built
Fram- Orange can of death, one of the worst on the market.
OEM-Toyota black can not made by Mann, Low quality filter
OEM-Honda low quality filter paper end caps, cheaply made
OEM-Madaz decent filter good for 5000k oil changes
OEM-Nissan white can, total garbage, foam filter media thin cardboard
Nissan- made by Mann, decent over the counter filter 5000k use.
Mobil1-good over the counter filter
K&N - good over the counter filter
WIX- above average oil filter heavy duty construction.
OEM-Ford (Motorcraft filter) Good over the counter filter
ACDelco-None Ultraguard and Duraguard are of very low quality
OEM-Hyundai-good OEM filter
VIC- Very cheaply made, restrictive bypass valve, poor filter media
Union-Decent over the counter filter, basic paper media 5000k Change out
JHF- Decent Koren made over the counter filter 5000k use
Fil- lable says (for) Toyota, red and white box, Yellow lettering on filer, undersized filter media, bad bypass valve cause filter to recirculate unfilterd oil.
Fil-Fram Koren version. same issues. Steel on steel relief valve fails to seal, leaves dirty oil circulating.
Toyota (Denso) Japan, has on average fewer pleats for fitering vs other filters. Example MANN has 60 pleats vs Densos 29, vs Frams 59 in the same size filter. Very short life filter.
Fellow Tskoit member await your input
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April 16th, 2011 11:38 AM #159Im not jealous to somebodys achievement.Ive got mine.You are a navy.I am an engineer.Both of us i think is happy of the path were going.Life is like that.We need to be satisfied with what we have.You think i dont know about obd scan tool & performance parts with complete set that cost more than a new normal car.Common,those are simple technologies.I dont want to race and got caught on accident.Not my type,very childish.
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April 16th, 2011 12:19 PM #160
As requested, Here is the what the Mitshubishi 4D56 and 4M40 filter look like inside. They use a Full flow and a bypass element, The reasoning is they run fairly dirty and are hard on the oil, so they need the extra filtration to keep the oil intervals. Without the bypass set up in them you'd go through oil filters like crazy. If you run a non bypass filter on them your going to have serious issues.
Donaldson version (also a high end filter like Baldwin and Fleetguard) they make Amsoils filters.
You can clearly see just how different these are from your average filter. To bad they are about the only ones with this unique factory set up.
Here is Luberfiners version (another good filter) They use a role vs stacked disk.
Now here's a example of a good filter vs a knock off Nissan filter after about 10000k. Which do you prefer?
This is what happens when you never change your oil or filter on a diesel, But hey diesels are tough thank god, or half the Jeepneys would be long dead.
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