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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    mainly fuel consumption is affected.

    its your vehicles. I dont care if you want to use very thick oil and have the added benefit of higher fuel consumption.
    And how much is the difference? Can you site credible studies showing better FC as you said? Just asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    mainly fuel consumption is affected.

    its your vehicles. I dont care if you want to use very thick oil and have the added benefit of higher fuel consumption.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    And how much is the difference? Can you site credible studies showing better FC as you said? Just asking.
    that's the oil companies marketing strategy claiming that using thick oil = wear engine protection where as thinner oil = improve FC. personally, I've already tried both oil viscosity for quite sometime but the FC difference is negligible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monty_GTV View Post
    so mas malabnaw ba o thinner ang 5W40 kesa 15W40 considering na parehas lang viscosity nila na 40?
    mas malabnaw ang 5w40 kesa sa 15w40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    mas malabnaw ang 5w40 kesa sa 15w40.
    Sir i disagree based on the rating same 40 sila.

    Pero to dig more details makikita sa msds ang actual viscosity index ng parehas na oil at 40C and at 100C.

    Imho, mas mababa mas magaan or malabnaw na oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    mas malabnaw ang 5w40 kesa sa 15w40.
    Wrong, pareho lang sila 40weight oil once engine is at operating temp. Ang mas malapot yung higher number after the W. Sa tropi al climate pareho lang silang malabnaw.

    I think you should read more about engine oil and their rating and meaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    mas malabnaw ang 5w40 kesa sa 15w40.
    afaik, parehas lang sila ng viscosity of 40 (o lapot) at given testing temperature. mas madali lang dadaloy yung 5W kesa 15W during start-up dahil may additives na applicable sa winter weather, kahit malamig, dadaloy pa rin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monty_GTV View Post
    afaik, parehas lang sila ng viscosity of 40 (o lapot) at given testing temperature. mas madali lang dadaloy yung 5W kesa 15W during start-up dahil may additives na applicable sa winter weather, kahit malamig, dadaloy pa rin.
    Exactly my point.

    Motor Oil Viscosity Grades Explained in Layman's Terms

    Oh ayan stockengine, layman's term na yan ha.

    I agree, newer engines maybe better of with W30 oil than W40 when brand new FC wise. Kaso sa post mo kasi nung una parang sinasabi mo na hindi pwede sae40 eh. Eh nasa manual naman. Tska karamihan nang FC test ay sa mga bansa na may winter. Sa pinas na tropical country wala pa comprehensive study dyan. So yung FC gain na sinasabi mo, might just be irrelevant if you consider the cost of a w30 FS oil vs a w40 dino oil. Just saying. I might be wrong of course.

    But if the car manual specifically says use only w30, then of course who am I to question that.
    Last edited by Ry_Tower; May 8th, 2015 at 11:04 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    And how much is the difference? Can you site credible studies showing better FC as you said? Just asking.
    shell tested this....hehehe ill find the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Wrong, pareho lang sila 40weight oil once engine is at operating temp. Ang mas malapot yung higher number after the W. Sa tropi al climate pareho lang silang malabnaw.

    I think you should read more about engine oil and their rating and meaning.
    viscosity*100c is different between a 5w40 and a 15w40.

    shell helix ultra 5w40 is 13.5 much lower than a rotella t6.

    link is from pqiamerica.com.

    http://www.pqiamerica.com/conshdeo2015.gif

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    Viscosity index na yata yun.

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    nakalagay sa manual ng sasakyan ko para daw gumaganda ang fuel consumption use 0w20 oil, kaso gamit ko RP 5w30.

    less viscous yung engine oil na gamit, mas di hirap gumalaw yung mga engine parts.

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    nakalagay sa manual ng sasakyan ko para daw gumaganda ang fuel consumption use 0w20 oil, kaso gamit ko RP 5w30.

    less viscous yung engine oil na gamit, mas di hirap gumalaw yung mga engine parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimot View Post
    nakalagay sa manual ng sasakyan ko para daw gumaganda ang fuel consumption use 0w20 oil, kaso gamit ko RP 5w30.

    less viscous yung engine oil na gamit, mas di hirap gumalaw yung mga engine parts.
    may i know anong reason mo sir bakit ka gumamit ng mas malapot na oil kesa recommended sa manual?

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    Quote Originally Posted by monty_GTV View Post
    may i know anong reason mo sir bakit ka gumamit ng mas malapot na oil kesa recommended sa manual?
    nakalagay kasi sa manual na maganda yung 0w20 sa cold weather, eh di naman ganon ang weather condition saten hehe.

    ang nakalagay rin naman sa manual ng oto ko pwede gumamit ng oil 0w20 to 20w40

    nakaindicate lang dun na mas gaganda ang fuel consumption sa 0w20

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimot View Post
    nakalagay kasi sa manual na maganda yung 0w20 sa cold weather, eh di naman ganon ang weather condition saten hehe.

    ang nakalagay rin naman sa manual ng oto ko pwede gumamit ng oil 0w20 to 20w40

    nakaindicate lang dun na mas gaganda ang fuel consumption sa 0w20
    compromise kasi yang fuel efficiency at engine protection... if you want them both, 0W-40 ang option mo. kaso 0W-40 only comes in Fully synthetic form, kaya mahal. pero it would be the best all around viscosity.

    we want the first number to be 0W, so it flows without restriction like water during first start / dry starts, regardless kung meh winter o hindi( its not an issue na dapat bangitin),
    as we drive around and the engine starts to warm up, we want the last number to be around 40W so that the "oil when hot doesn't behave like water" anymore , so that it provides adequate protection.

    the goal is to have an oil that is thin(less viscous) during starting= less wear , more fuel efficient
    the goal is to have an oil that is thick(more viscous) during hot normal engine temp =less wear and more protection

    answer is 0w-40... problem is mahal nga ito. kaya we settle for other cheaper alternatives like 10w-40/5w-30 etc....
    Last edited by miko101130; May 9th, 2015 at 01:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimot View Post
    nakalagay kasi sa manual na maganda yung 0w20 sa cold weather, eh di naman ganon ang weather condition saten hehe.

    ang nakalagay rin naman sa manual ng oto ko pwede gumamit ng oil 0w20 to 20w40

    nakaindicate lang dun na mas gaganda ang fuel consumption sa 0w20
    ok sir kimot, pasok pa rin sa required viscosity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimot View Post
    nakalagay sa manual ng sasakyan ko para daw gumaganda ang fuel consumption use 0w20 oil, kaso gamit ko RP 5w30.

    less viscous yung engine oil na gamit, mas di hirap gumalaw yung mga engine parts.

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    nakalagay sa manual ng sasakyan ko para daw gumaganda ang fuel consumption use 0w20 oil, kaso gamit ko RP 5w30.

    less viscous yung engine oil na gamit, mas di hirap gumalaw yung mga engine parts.
    Ingat lang bro. Yung 0w20 oil hindi malapot. Pag mag-init makina mo, kagaya ng summer, traffic, noon time traffic, traffic in summer etc..., lalabnaw pa yung oil. Baka di na kaya protect makina mo.

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    Anybody using idemitsu 5w30 or 5w40. San may stock bukod sa unioil? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saksidriver View Post
    Anybody using idemitsu 5w30 or 5w40. San may stock bukod sa unioil? Thanks.
    me before but I switched to casa oil. hirap maghanap halos lahat ng unioil branch ala pero last week napadaan ako sa san juan going to kalendong, madami raw silang stocks gallon & per liter din. try mo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by saksidriver View Post
    Anybody using idemitsu 5w30 or 5w40. San may stock bukod sa unioil? Thanks.
    me before but I switched to casa oil. hirap maghanap halos lahat ng unioil branch ala pero last week napadaan ako sa san juan going to kalendong, madami raw silang stocks gallon & per liter din. try mo...

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    Thanks. Try ko daanan.

Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?