Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

[chookchakchenes]

Tama yung explanaiton ni dvldoc dati na pangit pag masyado mataas na molybdenum.

Frequently Asked Questions about Motor Oils / LN Engineering - Knowledge Base LN Engineering

IS THERE MOLY IN MY MOTOR OIL? IS MOLY BAD FOR MY ENGINE?

From our testing, most SM oils have some level of boron and moly to make up for the lower level of Zn and P and is now more commonly found in SM oils and CJ-4 oils. In the development of long-life motor oils with reduced Zn and P, organic soluble moly has been added to help neutralize oxides formed in the motor oil from byproducts of combustion in addition to its use as a friction modifier to improve fuel economy and reduce engine wear in GF-4 and energy conserving oils. Some brands of oils have more moly than others, with Redline and Royal Purple using significantly high levels of moly in their lubricants. Some oil manufacturers claim that the addition of moly can reduce friction up to 38%, reduce bearing wear up to 60% and reduce overall operating temperatures.

On the flip side, some advertise their product does not have moly intentionally, claiming moly is an abrasive and deposit forming, which are both true in as much as ZDDP, although forming good anti-wear films, it increases friction and the oil's traction coefficient. CMW Oil is one of the most vocal proponents of the elimination of moly all together from motor oils and does not use any moly friction modifiers in its street, race, or fleet lubricants. CMW is not alone in their recommendation against the use of moly in oils, with Cummins Engine Oil Recommendations, Bulletin No. 3810340-02, stating that "there is firm evidence that certain friction modifiers, molybdenum dithiophosphate for example, can in certain formulations result in cam follower pin failure at relatively low mileage." Also, molybdenum compounds in motor oils can degrade and cause bearing corrosion and is particularly aggressive towards copper. In almost all cases, any engine oil formula having "moly" will also contain a copper deactivator which will protect bearings from the moly compounds. The only problem, the copper deactivator decomposes at relatively low temperatures and looses it's potency after a few thousand miles, which can be seen in used oil analyses of moly rich oils having higher than normal copper levels. Additionally, there is documentation in various SAE publications showing a vast number of different species of moly friction modifiers, some providing better wear than fuel savings and vice-versa, and unfortunately, there is no easy way to determine how a friction modified oil is formulated other than to assume that a GF-4 and now GF-5 also known as energy or resource conserving oil is most likely to bias fuel savings for lower wear protection in thinner oils, like the aforementioned 5w20 viscosity so many import and domestic engines now require to meet CAFE requirements. Furthermore, the addition of start-stop technologies almost certainly require the use of zero weight oils to ensure immediate oil flow to prevent accelerated start up wear.

[romeocharlie]

Safe choice pag shell helix.. I doubt there would be significant change sa engine noise mo.. If wala yung mga primary choices ko, shell helix would always be my alternative..


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[zechs]

Kung ganun, eh di pangit pala ang royal purple oil and liqui moly oils as they contain molybdenum?

Kakapalit ko pa naman into royal purple hps which contains zddp.

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[monty_GTV]

Kung ganun, eh di pangit pala ang royal purple oil and liqui moly oils as they contain molybdenum?

Kakapalit ko pa naman into royal purple hps which contains zddp.

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obserbahan mo muna epekto sa makina mo kung pangit o hindi mas pangit yung mumurahing oil dahil ginagandahan ang mga oil analysis para lang bumenta. yung mga malalaking kompanya may R&D yan at nakikita mo na ginagamit sa malalaking racing circuits. bottomline depende pa rin yan sa bulsa mo kung anong afford mo. hindi naman alam nung makina mo kung rp oil. liquid moly o sick oil inilagay mo

[chookchakchenes]

Wag kayo papabola sa mga probinsyano nabola ng mga expensive oil pero failure sa independent used oil analysis. Hindi matanggap na yung ginamit na super expensive engine oil eh tinatalo ng mga ch-4/sJ or ci-4/sL oil. Ang pagkakaintindi ng mga yan eh kailangan maging mahal ang engine oil para maging ok ang engine.

Sa mga newbie backread kayo mga post ni dvldoc the diesel injection expert.

Ingat kayo sa mga nagbabase sa butt dyno in tagalog puro pakiramdam ng pwet. :butt: hahahahha :hihihi:

[monty_GTV]

Wag kayo papabola sa mga probinsyano nabola ng mga expensive oil pero failure sa independent used oil analysis. Hindi matanggap na yung ginamit na super expensive engine oil eh tinatalo ng mga ch-4/sJ or ci-4/sL oil. Ang pagkakaintindi ng mga yan eh kailangan maging mahal ang engine oil para maging ok ang engine.

Sa mga newbie backread kayo mga post ni dvldoc the diesel injection expert.

Ingat kayo sa mga nagbabase sa butt dyno in tagalog puro pakiramdam ng pwet. :butt: hahahahha :hihihi:

maybe isa ako sa probinsiyanong sinasabi pero nakakapagbasa naman kami at nakakaintindi

kung hindi ka butt dyno din lang meron ka ba used oil analysis ng ginamit mong oil sa makina mo? paki-post naman dito ng ma-educate naman ang kagaya kung probinsiyano. yung oil analysis ng ginamit mo mismong oil ang i-post mo dito hindi yung nababasa mo lang sa mga forums o naipost ni dvldoc. kung wala ka maipost eh nakikiramdam ka lang din sa pwet mo

now kung wala kang used oil analysis ng ginamit mong oil, pwede tayo magpa-analysis for the benefit of other forumers? yung oil na ginagamit mo saka yung premium oil na ginagamit ko like RP oil. taga siyudad ka siguro naman ma-afford mo. o nagtitipid ka nga pala sa oil so hindi mo ma-afford ang magpa oil analysis. kahit ako na magpa-analysis ng oil mo kung hindi mo ma-afford. interesado din ako malaman anong resulta ng oil analysis sa premium oil against sa murang oil.

my montero averages 2-3k kms/month so every 10k kms interval ako magpalit ng oil. ikaw anong OCI mo?

matanong ko nga din pala taga siyudad ka, saan ba pwede magpa-oil analysis? i'll be home from sep 19 to oct 3 and i'm due for my 65k pms. tamang-tama may sample ako ng RP oil used in 10kms. kung may sample ka ng fresh at used oil * 10kms pwede nating isabay ipa-test. yan ay para may actual basis, hindi lang pakiramdam sa pwet, kababasa ng forum at tipa ng keyboard ang basehan

[chookchakchenes]

maybe isa ako sa probinsiyanong sinasabi pero nakakapagbasa naman kami at nakakaintindi

kung hindi ka butt dyno din lang meron ka ba used oil analysis ng ginamit mong oil sa makina mo? paki-post naman dito ng ma-educate naman ang kagaya kung probinsiyano. yung oil analysis ng ginamit mo mismong oil ang i-post mo dito hindi yung nababasa mo lang sa mga forums o naipost ni dvldoc. kung wala ka maipost eh nakikiramdam ka lang din sa pwet mo

now kung wala kang used oil analysis ng ginamit mong oil, pwede tayo magpa-analysis for the benefit of other forumers? yung oil na ginagamit mo saka yung premium oil na ginagamit ko like RP oil. taga siyudad ka siguro naman ma-afford mo. o nagtitipid ka nga pala sa oil so hindi mo ma-afford ang magpa oil analysis. kahit ako na magpa-analysis ng oil mo kung hindi mo ma-afford. interesado din ako malaman anong resulta ng oil analysis sa premium oil against sa murang oil.

my montero averages 2-3k kms/month so every 10k kms interval ako magpalit ng oil. ikaw anong OCI mo?

matanong ko nga din pala taga siyudad ka, saan ba pwede magpa-oil analysis? i'll be home from sep 19 to oct 3 and i'm due for my 65k pms. tamang-tama may sample ako ng RP oil used in 10kms. kung may sample ka ng fresh at used oil * 10kms pwede nating isabay ipa-test. yan ay para may actual basis, hindi lang pakiramdam sa pwet, kababasa ng forum at tipa ng keyboard ang basehan

Premium??? Marketing gimmick. hahahahahah

Yung "overprice oil" mo vs sa mga hddeo gamit ko. Mamili ka dito.

Delo gold ultra 5L 15w40 ci-4/sL (700 pesos ko ata nabili i forgot) nasa 6,000kms ngayon - car is civic ek. (delo gold ultra din gamit dati)

Zic UP ci-4/sL 4L 10w40 (nabili ko 750 before) 10kms - car is civic fd. (kakaoil change lang gamit dati zic a sn 10w40)

Ano specific na ruyal poorpool ang ilalaban mo at price? Ano sasakyan?

MONARK EQUIPMENT CORPORATION
150 E. Redriguez Jr. Ave., Libis Quezon City
Quezon City, Metro Manila
Tel: (632) 635-0901 loc. 224 / 635-0972
Fax: (632) 635-2644

[chookchakchenes]

obserbahan mo muna epekto sa makina mo kung pangit o hindi mas pangit yung mumurahing oil dahil ginagandahan ang mga oil analysis para lang bumenta. yung mga malalaking kompanya may R&D yan at nakikita mo na ginagamit sa malalaking racing circuits. bottomline depende pa rin yan sa bulsa mo kung anong afford mo. hindi naman alam nung makina mo kung rp oil. liquid moly o sick oil inilagay mo

Ang basehan mo dahil ginagamit sa malalaking racing circuits? Hello sponsorship.

Malaking companya? Yung ruuuyal poorpool ba tinutukoy mo?

bottomline depende pa rin yan sa bulsa mo kung anong afford mo

May natamaan ba ako nagbebenta kaibigan mo or family or ? or ? or ? :hihihi:

[jaggerx3]

Ang basehan mo dahil ginagamit sa malalaking racing circuits? Hello sponsorship.

Malaking companya? Yung ruuuyal poorpool ba tinutukoy mo?



May natamaan ba ako nagbebenta kaibigan mo or family or ? or ? or ? :hihihi:

ANo po pinaglalaban natin? Hahhaa

May pambili sila ng Royal Purple hayaan na lang natin. EH kung Zic lang afford natin (Zic User din ako)
DI na natin kailangan mag rant.

[chookchakchenes]

ANo po pinaglalaban natin? Hahhaa

May pambili sila ng Royal Purple hayaan na lang natin. EH kung Zic lang afford natin (Zic User din ako)
DI na natin kailangan mag rant.

Pag nagback read ka maintindihan mo bakit nasaktan si "premium oil" at nagparatang ng "mas pangit yung mumurahing oil dahil ginagandahan ang mga oil analysis para lang bumenta."

So all along yung delo gold at rotella sa nababasa ko used oil analysis eh ginagandahan lang pala. hahahahahaha

Inaantay ko yung hamon muntiy at sya daw gagastos. Bring it on!!!

[Christian Gañac]

Sir ano mai suggest niyo na oil for my AE92. 2E engine po.

[chookchakchenes]

Sir ano mai suggest niyo na oil for my AE92. 2E engine po.

Hanap ka meron api rating CH-4 / SJ or CI-4 / SL

Sa makina mo kahit 15w40 or 10w40 ok jan.

[Christian Gañac]

Noted sir. Mag change oil na rin kasi ako nitong November at try ko ibang oil naman ang gamitin. Current oil na gamit ko yung castrol gtx 20w-50

[monty_GTV]

chooktogo,

panay ka yabang dre wala ka naman maipakitang analysis ng langis mo dito sa forum isa ka ring butt dyno o sa tagalog nakikiramdam lang din sa pwet mo. nagbabase ka lang naman sa nababasa mong mga forums at independent oil analysis kuno, taga siyudad ka pa naman

ipa-analyze natin langis mo dre ng may maipost ka naman dito. kahit useless na ipa-analyze yan dahil mas mahal pa ang pa-analysis kesa isang litro ng langis mo

[chookchakchenes]

Sandali ano yung dre? Dr dre? hahahahahh

Kung magbaback read ka pinost ko dito hindi practical magoil analysis kung isa or dalawa kotse lang. Pero kung may fleet vehicle or hobby kumakarera eh justified. Malay mo may kamag-anak pala ako may fleet vehicles or kumakarera na feeling schumy na nirequest ko igamit sa kotse nila delo gold, castrol and zic engine oil (mga heavy duty diesel engine oil na bang for the buck) Though ang ayoko lang sa castrol nagvavarnish sa dipstick.

Mas mura ang oil analysis dito sa pinas kumpara sa blackstone labs. :hihihi:

Ang argumento mo kasi dapat ginagamit sa malalaking racing circuits at expensive. Hayaan mo kausapin ko may-ari premium minola oil na magsponsor sa nascar racing. Tapos pag sumikat ibenta 2000 pesos per liter. Ang magiging name minola master. Tatalunin yung royal flushes mo. ahahahahah

Kaya nga payag ako sa hamon mo ikaw magpaoil analysis tapos post natin dito resulta.

190pesos vs 550

Sana hindi pangit kakalabasan ng 550 per liter.

[wutangclan_79]

Guys and best oil for Isuzu sportivo medyo maingay na kse ?

[jyg1995]

Ahihihihi epekto ng umiinit na klima,,relax lang mga kuya! Usapang langis parang usapang lasing na! Pero for me Baguio oil is better,lalo na during cold start,protektadong protektado. :D :D :D

[Monty]

OT: ahead of its time ang Baguio oil. Bago pa nauso ang VCO may coconut oil na sila. :-D

[miko101130]

ang cute ng usapan lately dito ha.

guys, iba't iba ang target market segment ng different oil brands...

although there won't be any big real world difference sa overall performance ng oil group II/III/IV on a normal daily driven vehicle,
siyempre there will be different market segments on the basis of buying capability ng owner,

most John deere farm equipments and heavy duty hauling vehicles all over the world adhere to some form of fleet and oil maintenance program, and results indicate that regular oils like delo gold/400, rimula, etc, can adequately provide the protection even after 1,000,000 miles/ 30,000 plus hours on severe punishing conditions ( which family vehicles will never experience).

there is not enough stress in regular/normal/well maintained operated vehicles to push HDEO to failure with normal OCI.

yung RP oil was already sold and bought by another big company,
if im not mistaken same company who owns ashland (makers of valvoline)

[TheGreenThing]

Basta palit every 5000km
Doesnt matter kung baldwin or vic basta palit every 5000km..


"I'd rather have a dirty oil rather than no oil fpr a second."