Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

[crazy_boy]

Ako I'm not sold on semi synt, either mag mineral ka or fully synth...

it will really depend on the price na for me. may ibang semi-syn kasi na hindi malayo price sa mineral oil. a good example is Zic brand. pero pag nasa 300 peso range na semi-syn, id rather buy mineral oil nalang.

[shadow]

Well if short on budget then put mineral oil if meron extra then go for full synt, parang nakakaloko yun semi synth eh.. It's doesn't give protection as much as synth anyways so why pay extra if you can get away with mineral

[batosai]

it will really depend on the price na for me. may ibang semi-syn kasi na hindi malayo price sa mineral oil. a good example is Zic brand. pero pag nasa 300 peso range na semi-syn, id rather buy mineral oil nalang.

Sir ZIC kala q fully synthetic po ito?

[miko101130]

pag mineral ang importante eh yung base oil... dapat maganda ang base oil na ginamit nang brand na bibilin mo...
madame din naman magandang minerals out there... if 40 to 50 pesos lang difference per liter, its better to buy a good oil...

i once saw a suzuki multi cab on catltex near us, it was having its change oil before i arrived...
i saw that the driver poured in mobil 1 0w-40... the most expensive line from mobil...
from what i saw the multicab is being used as a delivery...
the owner must have known something out oil... cause he used mobil 1...
he knows the benefits of using a good oil and therefore preventing downtime on his delivery vehicle... which is essential to his business... i just smiled...

[crazy_boy]

Sir ZIC kala q fully synthetic po ito?

may mineral, semi-syn, and fully syn.

[doy]

ZIC oil price estimates dito sa probinsya:

ZIC SD5000 15w-40 multi-grade Php 175/liter
ZIC UP 10w-40 semi-synthetic Php 210/liter
ZIC XQ 5w-40 fully synthetic Php 550/liter

Konti lang ang price difference ng multi-grade at semi-synthetic nila kaya ok lang mag-semi-synthetic. Pero sa performance ang layo. Sa multi-grade medyo rough na ang engine response at around 4,000kms pero sa semi-synthetic smooth pa rin sa 4,500kms. Observed this on my 2010 strada 4x2 with OEM oil filer and OEM air filter.

[Walter]

ZIC oil price estimates dito sa probinsya:

ZIC SD5000 15w-40 multi-grade Php 175/liter
ZIC UP 10w-40 semi-synthetic Php 210/liter
ZIC XQ 5w-40 fully synthetic Php 550/liter

Konti lang ang price difference ng multi-grade at semi-synthetic nila kaya ok lang mag-semi-synthetic. Pero sa performance ang layo. Sa multi-grade medyo rough na ang engine response at around 4,000kms pero sa semi-synthetic smooth pa rin sa 4,500kms. Observed this on my 2010 strada 4x2 with OEM oil filer and OEM air filter.

Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40 is cheaper at 450 / liter but in Manila. Shipping surely won't cost 100 / liter.

[Retz]

ZIC oil price estimates dito sa probinsya:

ZIC SD5000 15w-40 multi-grade Php 175/liter
ZIC UP 10w-40 semi-synthetic Php 210/liter
ZIC XQ 5w-40 fully synthetic Php 550/liter

Konti lang ang price difference ng multi-grade at semi-synthetic nila kaya ok lang mag-semi-synthetic. Pero sa performance ang layo. Sa multi-grade medyo rough na ang engine response at around 4,000kms pero sa semi-synthetic smooth pa rin sa 4,500kms. Observed this on my 2010 strada 4x2 with OEM oil filer and OEM air filter.

Sir, pwede paki indicate na rin ung API rating ng ZIC oil above para malaman kung pwede sa gasoline/diesel or pang diesel lang ba ito. Thanks po.

[Retz]

The Castrol Magnatec (semi-synthetic) is price at roughly Php310/Li. Anyong using this type of oil? okay ba ito?

[doy]

Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40 is cheaper at 450 / liter but in Manila. Shipping surely won't cost 100 / liter.

Kaya semi-synthetic ng ZIC lang ako para change oil every 5,000kms even with Fleetguard oil filter. Around Php 185/liter nalang ang ZIC UP kung by gallon.

[doy]

Sir, pwede paki indicate na rin ung API rating ng ZIC oil above para malaman kung pwede sa gasoline/diesel or pang diesel lang ba ito. Thanks po.

More info at this link:

SK ZIC

[shadow]

Used it last time on my FD, Meron ako voucher Sa true value..same, same....

[miked]

I'll be using Delo 400 on my next oil change. Delo 400 is P295/liter at my place. About P1.4 - 1.5k per 5 liter jug. The label itself have no claims of it being a synth or a semi so i concluded it's a regular dino (w/ chevron's so-called ISOSYN tech). it also claims that it is at par with prevailing other synthetics' performance. we'll see. TBN as per the internet is 12.6. am not sure with the ZDDP. but i suspect it has still considerably high amounts of it.

Yung Mobil TDT na nakita ko sa mall eh P600 plus per liter dito....Delo 400 na lang kung ganun.

[miko101130]

delo 400 is a very very good oil...

[Retz]

I see some poster mentioning the Shell Helix HX5. Upon looking at its API rating it is rated API SL/CF which I think is more suitable for gasoline engine whereas Shell Rimula R3 is rated API CI-4 which is designed for diesel engine.

[Ry_Tower]

^ API CI-4 na ba Shell R3? Afaiak CH-4 lang. Anyway it's a good oil naman.

[Gerbo]

So which is more suitable for both the 4JA1 NA and turbocharged powerplant? Shell Helix diesel HX3 or the Shell Rimula R3?

[crazy_boy]

it would really depend on your budget. and yan lang ba option mo sir? or open kayo sa ibang options?

[Retz]

^ API CI-4 na ba Shell R3? Afaiak CH-4 lang. Anyway it's a good oil naman.

Yes, If my recollection is correct yan ung nabasa ko sa front label. I think it is around Php230 or 250/Li. Mas mahal ng konti ung Helix HX5.

[Gerbo]

it would really depend on your budget. and yan lang ba option mo sir? or open kayo sa ibang options?

No question sa budget. I'm asking about the suitability between the 2 choices of Shell engine oils.

Or I can paraphrase my question...Is there a real advantage if I use HX5 instead of Rimula R3 for old school diesel engines?