Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

[StockEngine]

Has anyone used MITASU ULTRA DIESEL CI-4 5W-40 100% Synthetic? I saw it at Blade for P1899.00 per 4 liters. Is this a good synthetic oil?

here is the link for its complete description: MJ-212. MITASU ULTRA DIESEL CI-4 5W-4 1% Synthetic - MITASU OIL CORPORATION, JAPAN

The manual for my vehicle (Fortuner) recommends 5W30 Fully Synthetic with the following Oil Grade: API CF-4, CF or ACEA B1

On the other hand, the MITASU is 5W40 Fully Synthetic with the following Oil Grade: API CI-4/CH-4/СG-4/CF ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4, E7

Should I go for the MITASU?

mas maganda to..



if price is a concern..zic is affordable


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[StockEngine]

3fiddy per litre at tgc

[94mitsukid]

Hello All,

May nakatry na ba netong engine oil na ito? USLube Metax Extreme 5W-40

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[StockEngine]

Hello All,

May nakatry na ba netong engine oil na ito? USLube Metax Extreme 5W-40

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thats just a rebrand, PDS looks the same...

.: United Oil :. - manufacturing, product development and marketing of lubricants and oil specialties for automotive, industrial and marine applications. this is their supplier/bottler

locally available ... same bottle design...
https://shopee.ph/United-Oil-United-...356.1133393541

[attyallanlatras]

Mararamdaman nyo ba agad agad yung difference if you use a fully synthetic oil vs just a mineral oil? Or would it be the long term effect?

[StockEngine]

Mararamdaman nyo ba agad agad yung difference if you use a fully synthetic oil vs just a mineral oil? Or would it be the long term effect?

if you read posts on bobistheoilguy forums.. many use mineral oils like the PYB, this is the shell helix hx5. and they've done over 200,000mi with them.


truth is all you need is to follow your cars recommendation, time based oil change interval because of our traffic. you can follow distance based based oil change intervals if you're in other parts of the world lol.

[attyallanlatras]

Just to clear up something about Isosyn tech that in Caltex Delo gold ultra oil if you notice in it's MSDS it's different then normal group II oil, It's actually classified as Group II plus. And has been proven to protect as well as group III (synthetic) It also has a heavy additive package.

Solvent dewaxed heavy paraffinic distillate
Hydrotreated heavy paraffinic distillate
Solvent refined heavy paraffinic distillate

KEY PROPERTIES
SAE Grade 15W-40
Density at 15°C, kg/L 0.89
Base No., D2896 mg KOH/g 10.2 Has a good TBN
Flash Point, °C > 215
Pour Point, °C < -24
Sulfated Ash, %m 1.4
Viscosity, cSt at 40°C 115
Viscosity, cSt at 100°C 15.1
Viscosity Index 137 (same as most group III oils) That's why it performs as well as group III

PERFORMANCE CHARACTERISTICS
API CI-4, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4, CF, CD, SL
ACEA E7-08, E5-02
Cummins CES 20078, 20077, 20076, 20072, 20071
JASO DH-1
Mack
EO-N, EO-M Plus
MAN M 3275
MTU Category 2
Mercedes Benz
228.3
Renault
RLD-2
Volvo VDS-3


When you see the Cummins rating you know it's good god oil.

Sir, *dvldoc, I know this is an old post but after reading it and comparing it with the specs of TOTAL RUBIA TIR 7400 15W-40, I wonder if this Total multi-grade mineral oil is as good as the Caltex Delo gold ultra oil as you have described above:

Here are the technical specs of the Total oil for diesel engines:

SPECIFICATIONS
API CI-4/CH-4/SL
ACEA E7

MANUFACTURERS’ APPROVALS
Cummins CES 20076/77/78
Kamaz
Mack EO-N
MAN M 3275
MB-Approval 228.3
Renault Trucks RLD-2
Volvo VDS-3

MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF
CATERPILLAR ECF-1a
DAF
IVECO
SCANIA
ISUZU

TOTAL RUBIA TIR 7400 15W-40 Method Value
Density at 15°C kg/m3 ASTM D1298 888
Kinematic Viscosity at 40°C mm2/s ASTM D445 98.7
Kinematic Viscosity at 100°C mm2/s ASTM D445 13.4
Viscosity Index - ASTM D2270 136
Flash point °C ASTM D92 236
Pour point °C ASTM D97 -30
T.B.N mgKOH/g ASTM D2896 11
Sulphated Ash % m/m ASTM D874 1.45

Is the Total RUBIA TIR 7400 15W-40 a good mineral oil for my Fortuner Dsl 2016?

[beepbeepph]

Mararamdaman nyo ba agad agad yung difference if you use a fully synthetic oil vs just a mineral oil? Or would it be the long term effect?

There's a huge difference between synthetic oil and mineral oil. In terms of the performance of the car, its highly recommendable to use synthetic oil as it has high resistance power, can withstand high temperature and most importantly it provides high performance. Despite its cost, synthetic oil lasts longer which avoids constant oil change. However, you can visit your trusted car shop to ask for better recommendation and know its risk that might ruin the car over the years. Hope this helps!

[attyallanlatras]

One of the claims of manufacturers is that using Fully Synthetic Oil improves fuel economy.... But after some readings in the net it appears that it is a myth. So the benefit of using Fully Synthetic Oil is more on the duration of the use of such oil in the engine such as 10,000 km vs the mineral oil which has a life of not more than 5,000 km. My concern now is the viscosity of the oil. The manual recommends a 5W 30 viscosity, but that if for fully synthetic oils which costs around 3 times (around 5k pesos) than a mineral oil which cost 1.5k. The mineral oil is at 15W 40 (pasok naman sa manual as minimum).... Some say that since we do not have winter in the Philippines so the first number does not really matter. It is the second number which is crucial. I have read that 40 is too thick as an oil and might have some issues in the long run.... Is this true?

[Ry_Tower]

One of the claims of manufacturers is that using Fully Synthetic Oil improves fuel economy.... But after some readings in the net it appears that it is a myth. So the benefit of using Fully Synthetic Oil is more on the duration of the use of such oil in the engine such as 10,000 km vs the mineral oil which has a life of not more than 5,000 km. My concern now is the viscosity of the oil. The manual recommends a 5W 30 viscosity, but that if for fully synthetic oils which costs around 3 times (around 5k pesos) than a mineral oil which cost 1.5k. The mineral oil is at 15W 40 (pasok naman sa manual as minimum).... Some say that since we do not have winter in the Philippines so the first number does not really matter. It is the second number which is crucial. I have read that 40 is too thick as an oil and might have some issues in the long run.... Is this true?

If the manual recommends a w30 then follow it by all means lalo na if brand new vehicle. Mas maliit pa tolerances niyan compared sa previous engines nga gawang 90's eh so magbenefit talaga engine sa lower viscosity dahil mas magaan i-circulate ng engine.

But if you say that the w40 is also in the manual, then pwede din yan of course. Lalo na if diesel engine. Kayang-kaya niya yan.

[oj88]

Some say that since we do not have winter in the Philippines so the first number does not really matter. It is the second number which is crucial.

The first number is not as critical, but it is still important. If it didn't, manufacturers will still be recommending straight viscosity oils in the manual.

It is important because a lower first number would mean that the oil can much more easily start flowing to get to all engine parts faster upon starting.

[XTO]

Mararamdaman nyo ba agad agad yung difference if you use a fully synthetic oil vs just a mineral oil? Or would it be the long term effect?

hi atty, kung 5w30 ang recommended meron nyan ang zic. baka meron dyan or marami sellers who can ship. very smooth sya on may 3.2 monty mura mura pa.

https://www.*******/all-results?q=zic+oil+5w30

[shelu]

on the benefit of using Fully Synthetic Oil is more on the duration of the use of such oil in the engine such as 10,000 km vs the mineral oil which has a life of not more than 5,000 kms.

Delo 400 mgx is a mineral oil but it has been tested for 80k kms.

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[StockEngine]

on the benefit of using Fully Synthetic Oil is more on the duration of the use of such oil in the engine such as 10,000 km vs the mineral oil which has a life of not more than 5,000 kms.

Delo 400 mgx is a mineral oil but it has been tested for 80k kms.

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bro 80,000km is possible for buses only. because they have some 40liters of engine oil and several oil filters to use up.

this 80,000kmoil drain interval is not applicable to 3-4 liters of oil

[mokong22]

bro 80,000km is possible for buses only. because they have some 40liters of engine oil and several oil filters to use up.

this 80,000kmoil drain interval is not applicable to 3-4 liters of oil

Nasa 32liters average ang oil sump Ng mga bus ngayon.

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[StockEngine]

Nasa 32liters average ang oil sump Ng mga bus ngayon.

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its varies, depending on the engine displacement and manufacturer.

[mokong22]

its varies, depending on the engine displacement and manufacturer.

Overkill yang 40liters Wala pa akong. Nakitang bus na 40liters ang engine oil capacity lolz... Kung meron man baka mga super size bus as ibang bansa

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[oj88]

Overkill yang 40liters Wala pa akong. Nakitang bus na 40liters ang engine oil capacity lolz... Kung meron man baka mga super size bus as ibang bansa

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So, meron.

Anyway, SE wasn't too far off the mark... at least, that is based on my limited research. Typical bus engines have between 16 to 37 liters of engine oil. And yes, it depends on displacement and manufacturer.

[attyallanlatras]

My 25,000 PMS for my Toyota Fortuner is due soon. I have been reading several threads and I am quite convince with the explanations made in those threads that there are better oil filters than what casa is offering. I bought a Baldwin Oil Filter for my fortuner and would want Toyota casa install that Baldwin oil filter, instead of their OEM oil filter. My scheduled PMS is actually just a top-up of 1 liter fully synthetic oil (5w30) and change of oil filter. So my question is would Toyota casa allow me if I ask them to install the Baldwin Oil Filter? Would they refuse and worse consider voiding my warranty?

[StockEngine]

My 25,000 PMS for my Toyota Fortuner is due soon. I have been reading several threads and I am quite convince with the explanations made in those threads that there are better oil filters than what casa is offering. I bought a Baldwin Oil Filter for my fortuner and would want Toyota casa install that Baldwin oil filter, instead of their OEM oil filter. My scheduled PMS is actually just a top-up of 1 liter fully synthetic oil (5w30) and change of oil filter. So my question is would Toyota casa allow me if I ask them to install the Baldwin Oil Filter? Would they refuse and worse consider voiding my warranty?

better filters as per spec. but have you heard of toyota engines failing because of their oil filters? engine failures occur because some forget changing their oils.