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    #501
    Quote Originally Posted by chicri View Post
    Ano po kaya ok na oil para sa gasoline mitsu 4b11 2.0? kakatapos lang ng 1k pms ko so nilagay nila is mitsu turbo xp gusto ko sana palitan pag 5k na. Driving it everyday to work via slex to makati pag weekends naman pacavite. Binabasa ko manual nung car daming oil na pwede (based on viscosity) hindi ako makapili kasi wala pa ako alam masyado about oil. Thanks guys.
    afaik, basta within the oil spec na nakasulat sa manual at ang change oil ay nasa required interval, kahit anung oil pwede (wag lang yung peke na lumalabas).

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    #502
    Quote Originally Posted by chicri View Post
    Ano po kaya ok na oil para sa gasoline mitsu 4b11 2.0? kakatapos lang ng 1k pms ko so nilagay nila is mitsu turbo xp gusto ko sana palitan pag 5k na. Driving it everyday to work via slex to makati pag weekends naman pacavite. Binabasa ko manual nung car daming oil na pwede (based on viscosity) hindi ako makapili kasi wala pa ako alam masyado about oil. Thanks guys.
    The turbo XP crap. You should have sticked with the mineral oil in your 1k pms since the engine is in break-in period pa. Mineral oil is better suited during break-ins. I suggest you change it back to mineral oil. Change it to synthetics na lang once you've reached 10k. I dont like your SA, he should have known better.

    And the turbo Xp is just a repacked Mitsu oil. There are lots of better oil out there.

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    #503
    Quote Originally Posted by fourtheboys96 View Post
    afaik, basta within the oil spec na nakasulat sa manual at ang change oil ay nasa required interval, kahit anung oil pwede (wag lang yung peke na lumalabas).
    Sabi kasi sa manual depende sa temperature? I'm wondering kung ok mag 5W-30 or 10W-40...

    Quote Originally Posted by Errol5 View Post
    The turbo XP crap. You should have sticked with the mineral oil in your 1k pms since the engine is in break-in period pa. Mineral oil is better suited during break-ins. I suggest you change it back to mineral oil. Change it to synthetics na lang once you've reached 10k. I dont like your SA, he should have known better.

    And the turbo Xp is just a repacked Mitsu oil. There are lots of better oil out there.
    Will keep that in mind sir. I have done some googling wala ako makitang spec nung turbo xp -_- When I reach 5k will change back to mineral oil. May suggestion po ba kayo sa brand and viscosity ng mineral oil? Dont know kung ako lang nakafeel nito. parang hina humatak ng mineral oil when i was at 500km. After the 1k pms ko ok na yung hatak. Salamat ulit sa inputs.

    Sabi sakin dun sa thread ng lancer gta liquimoly daw or RP. Naghanap din ako ng magandang oil sa net sabi Mobil 1 0W40 ata ok. Daming options... Of course I only want the best to protect my investment.

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    #504
    Mobil 1, Liquimoly and RP are good oils. My brother uses Motul Htec (API- SN) 5w-30 in his 4b11.

    Difference in temperature of the 30 and 40 weight wont matter much, the engine is new naman kaya 30 would be fine.

    You can afford it naman so why not. Turbo XPs are crap, even mitsulancerph can attest to that.

    The practice is to use mineral oil til 5k kms, you can google it so you may understand better.

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    #505
    Quote Originally Posted by Errol5 View Post
    Difference in temperature of the 30 and 40 weight wont matter much, the engine is new naman kaya 30 would be fine.

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    If you check the chart below, at high temperatures, 40 can go beyond what 30 can do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    If you check the chart below, at high temperatures, 40 can go beyond what 30 can do.

    I understand. But the engineers would think twice about recommending the 30 weight if its to mean harm right?

    In real world, even in this climate of ours switching from 40 to 30 or vice versa are like changing your shoes to slippers after coming home from work.

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    #507
    Just by looking at the chart, the kind of temperatures that is reached in our kind of traffic is way beyond what weight 30 can handle.

    As for me I want protection for my engine, so its either 40 or 50 for me.

    PS: I came from 30 and now using 40. At room temperature, 30 flows like water. 40, OTOH, is like syrup. Now imagine their viscosity, if both are heated up. I wouldn't want a 30 in the kind of heat of our traffic.

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    #508
    ^I agree with everything you said. Temperature at the engine bay is way more hotter too.

    But it really depends on the users preference. For the expedition and old explorers, 40 weight is already thick for them na so 30 is the way to go (even 20 in US).

    its true 40 offers better protection than the 30, i dont deny it. Im using 40 weight oil on my gf's 08 Altis as well.

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    #509
    Its also better to follow what viscosity range specified by the vehicle's manual. That and as you said, user's preference as well.

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    #510
    Thanks for taking the time to reply to my query Erol.

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    #511
    Regarding oil viscosity, is it safe to assume that most diesel powered engine use a grade of "40" since diesel would likely be much hotter. Whereas for gasoline powered engines, pwede na ang viscosity grade na "30" in a tropical weather climate condition.

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    after reading all the pages, ive read that idemitsu and zic a are good for gasoline engines. im narrowing my choice on 10w40

    my engine is b16a honda civic ek year 2000. it says on the manual SG, SH or SJ. Can i use Higher Rating such as SL, SM or SN?

    since wala din catalytic converter yung oto, so pwede na din po ba gumamit ng Zic UP 10w40 SL rating?


    now im just choosing between:
    Zic Up 10w40 or Idemitsu 10w40 combined with Baldwin Filter for honda. oil gurus, which one would you recommend?

    At saan po ba nakakabile ng Zic Up 10w40? wala po ako makita sa ace hardware.

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    #513
    Quote Originally Posted by Errol5 View Post
    Mobil 1, Liquimoly and RP are good oils. My brother uses Motul Htec (API- SN) 5w-30 in his 4b11.

    Difference in temperature of the 30 and 40 weight wont matter much, the engine is new naman kaya 30 would be fine.

    You can afford it naman so why not. Turbo XPs are crap, even mitsulancerph can attest to that.

    The practice is to use mineral oil til 5k kms, you can google it so you may understand better.
    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    Just by looking at the chart, the kind of temperatures that is reached in our kind of traffic is way beyond what weight 30 can handle.

    As for me I want protection for my engine, so its either 40 or 50 for me.

    PS: I came from 30 and now using 40. At room temperature, 30 flows like water. 40, OTOH, is like syrup. Now imagine their viscosity, if both are heated up. I wouldn't want a 30 in the kind of heat of our traffic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Regarding oil viscosity, is it safe to assume that most diesel powered engine use a grade of "40" since diesel would likely be much hotter. Whereas for gasoline powered engines, pwede na ang viscosity grade na "30" in a tropical weather climate condition.
    Wow I was enlightened sa mga info nyo. Thank you very much. Just like hachooro, I'll narrow down my selection to 10W40 or a 10W30. Siguro this coming 5k pms for me I'll change to a 10W30 since tagulan na at ber months to feb ay malamig. Kung summer change to 10W40 since lagpas 30deg ang temps satin.

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    #514
    ^

    yes, pwede yan depende sa weather or climate condition natin.

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    #515
    Quote Originally Posted by hachooro View Post
    after reading all the pages, ive read that idemitsu and zic a are good for gasoline engines. im narrowing my choice on 10w40

    my engine is b16a honda civic ek year 2000. it says on the manual SG, SH or SJ. Can i use Higher Rating such as SL, SM or SN?

    since wala din catalytic converter yung oto, so pwede na din po ba gumamit ng Zic UP 10w40 SL rating?


    now im just choosing between:
    Zic Up 10w40 or Idemitsu 10w40 combined with Baldwin Filter for honda. oil gurus, which one would you recommend?

    At saan po ba nakakabile ng Zic Up 10w40? wala po ako makita sa ace hardware.
    No idea about the idemitsu. Is it fully synthetic ?

    Zic Up is a diesel oil. This is even better for gas engine since it has more detergents than the normal gas specific oil. Semi synthetic.

    ZiC A is a gasoline specific oil. Semi synthetic.

    You can PM . miko101130. He sells ZIC in the QC araneta ave area.

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    #516
    ^thanks for the reply sir, idemitsu 10w40 is semi synthetic rated SM. well since diesel oils are better i guess i may have to try the Zic up 10w40.

    sir do you have any idea how much for these zic up 10w40?

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    #517
    Quote Originally Posted by hachooro View Post

    sir do you have any idea how much for these zic up 10w40?

    PM mo na lang si miko101130

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    #518
    sa susunod subukan ko rin ung ZIC. pero sa delo gold ultra muna ako sa next oil change.

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    #519
    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    sa susunod subukan ko rin ung ZIC. pero sa delo gold ultra muna ako sa next oil change.
    Ako masaya na ako sa Zic. Fleet namin naka Zic + baldwin/bosch combo na lahat.

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    #520
    Quote Originally Posted by sirkosero View Post
    215 sa volmax

    Thanks sir. nung nag tanong ako sa Volmax alam na agad na tsikoter ako.

Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?