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    #1
    I'm about to have a change oil for my innova soon. I heard of GTOil (Green Technology Oil) selling here in Cebu. Its an Engine Oil Additive...But it has several claims which I need to verify...has anyone heard of this engine oil additive? here is its website: The Green Technology Oil
    add ko lang yung claim nila: http://gtofaq.blogspot.com/2011/04/n...il-change.html

    Hope to hear from anyone here soon...tia
    Last edited by attyallanlatras; January 26th, 2012 at 05:49 PM.

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    #2
    another one of those additives

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    One of the most uneducated ignorant marketing pitch I have ever heard, They clearly know nothing about oil or filters or how additives in the oil work or how a oil filter works. By the way the Cellulose based filer media will begin to break down after about a year of service use.

    I made that know on there blog.

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    OMG... i read the website..This is the mother of all hallucinated additive claims. i can't believe HUMANS have developed a substance that will melt the trapped particles in an oil filter while in service..(melt the particles trapped in the oil filter i repeat!) what a crap of B.S.

    its just plain stupid to even attempt to claim that filters will last forever, more-so to claim that oil will last forever...
    According to them "ALIEN technology for the masses", i guess the inventor of this product might be the one whose alien.. hahaha..
    no offense but its just plain obvious that this additive is a scam,,,

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    I just love it!!! Nano particles. Liquified dirt is still dirt

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    Thanks sa mga nag-reply. I know this is a scam due to its outrageous claims. What is worse herein Cebu is that this additive oil is sold thru membership-marketing style na mukhang pyramiding....here is there link sa business side ng oil additive nito: OTG_KARIS

    Hope this kind of scam will be stopped.

    By the way hindi lang sila dito sa Visayas, parang 3 lang sa Visayas, most of their "Centers" are in Mindanao and Luzon. see this link:
    http://www.otg-karis.com/ABC.html

    Meron pa silang facebook site: http://www.facebook.com/OTG.Karis?sk=wall

    Every time I have I have some queries or issues on my ride, I always rely on this site dahil authority ito dito sa pinas ang tsikot forums...thanks again
    Last edited by attyallanlatras; January 27th, 2012 at 09:11 AM.

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    I feel sorry for the poor trusting folks that don't have real automotive knowledge and have fallen victim to this clear ridiculous scam and ludicrous claims. Once your oils wear additives such as zinc and phosphorus and the main cleaning compound calcium is depleted and your viscosity breaks down with a TBN (total base number of 1.0) your going to get some serious wear in your engine.

    I'm sure the guy does not even know whats in oil let alone how it works or what a engine oil analysis is or what it is for nor the fact even with a true bypass system like Amsoils system which filters down to 2 microns at around 96% you can only go around 30000 miles to 50000 miles maximum on oil but that's only with the right type of filtration system and Group IV and higher oil.

    What's even funnier how is a oil additive going to reduce emissions significantly? Backwards thinking. Oh well everyone got to have there own little thing even if it's total scam.

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    eveyone has a diskarte para magka pera

    kaya DISCERN

    piliin niyo kung sino pinapayaman niyo

    huwag niyo payamanin mga undeserving

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    Quote Originally Posted by edtf View Post
    I just love it!!! Nano particles. Liquified dirt is still dirt
    Isn't liquified dirt also called mud? hehehe

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    It is not so wise not to have your own personal mind, to be easily persuaded into the suggestion of others indicates a weak brain.

    Firstly, you cannot react to something in such a manner - specially when something is not forced against your volition!

    If there is anything being forced into the consciousness of most people here in Manila... it's the use of LPG for cars! (Investigate Government Subsidy on this program at whose expense?)

    A Scam is a rip off, where people are not able to get anything in return but empty promises, pressures and quota and false hope.

    Take my advise, don't listen to anyone, including me - DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK! Do your own investigation! Do your own research!

    Ask the right questions - You'll get the right answers.

    To rely on Tsikot dot com as your sole guide in your automotive concerns... is an admission of your weak Automotive Culture/ Conviction.

    nuff said.

    Good day Ladies!



    Quote Originally Posted by attyallanlatras View Post
    Thanks sa mga nag-reply. I know this is a scam due to its outrageous claims. What is worse herein Cebu is that this additive oil is sold thru membership-marketing style na mukhang pyramiding....here is there link sa business side ng oil additive nito: OTG_KARIS

    Hope this kind of scam will be stopped.

    By the way hindi lang sila dito sa Visayas, parang 3 lang sa Visayas, most of their "Centers" are in Mindanao and Luzon. see this link:
    OTG_KARIS

    Meron pa silang facebook site: Green Technology Oil (GTO) - Wall | Facebook

    Every time I have I have some queries or issues on my ride, I always rely on this site dahil authority ito dito sa pinas ang tsikot forums...thanks again

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    Mockery of any one is not my cup of tea.

    Long time no hear my old friends! :-)

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    What is the point of your post???

    This is clearly a scam even if I was a uneducated 5th grader I would have the common sense to know engine oil wear out over time and a filter which is made from paper will break down over time. But since I am a ASE Certified Master Mechanic I think I know a little better. Tsikot has plenty of good information from other highly skilled individuals that have a wide knowledge base with many source and data posted here.

    A scam is a scam a fake is a fake and when you have proof to back it up there is no argument about the facts.

    Try not to post while drinking folks you'll regret it the next day

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    logic is very important... there are scientific and empirical experiences that would guide us into making opinions... there are additives that is backed by scientific data and accepted methods, there are those that without even blinking an eye, we would know were only scams... its just plain and simple. the very reason why there is a forum like this is to give opinions so that others may share and others may learn...

    A fact (derived from the Latin Factum) is something that has really occurred or is actually the case. The usual test for a statement of fact is verifiability, that is whether it can be shown to correspond to experience. Standard reference works are often used to check facts. Scientific facts are verified by repeatable experiments.
    scam - a fraudulent business scheme/deprive of by deceit
    Prima facie- It is used in modern legal English to signify that on first examination, a matter appears to be self-evident from the facts
    res ipsa loquitur- Latin for "the thing speaks for itself"

    "It is a FACT that at FIRST EXAMINATION, it is EVIDENT the claims are a SCAM, and doesn't require SPEAKING..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehnriko View Post
    It is not so wise not to have your own personal mind, to be easily persuaded into the suggestion of others indicates a weak brain.

    Firstly, you cannot react to something in such a manner - specially when something is not forced against your volition!

    If there is anything being forced into the consciousness of most people here in Manila... it's the use of LPG for cars! (Investigate Government Subsidy on this program at whose expense?)

    A Scam is a rip off, where people are not able to get anything in return but empty promises, pressures and quota and false hope.

    Take my advise, don't listen to anyone, including me - DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK! Do your own investigation! Do your own research!

    Ask the right questions - You'll get the right answers.

    To rely on Tsikot dot com as your sole guide in your automotive concerns... is an admission of your weak Automotive Culture/ Conviction.

    nuff said.

    Good day Ladies!
    I admit noob ako insofar as automotive, that is why i do some search...but prior to this thread, I tried to google "GTOil" and I could not see anything in the net saying bad things about it. in fact, in another forum, which is quite popular in Cebu, istorya.net, there is a thread about this GTOil and there are a lot of post saying good things about this oil additive...and precisely, this led me to post this kind of query on this oil additive here if only to get some reliable info... and i choose this forum, tsikot.com since i trust most of the members here...peace...

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    As expected - an invitation to a rhetoric battle.

    The Latin terms stated works both ways...

    I am impressed with how you are able to insinuate or paint anything good as bad with your lines (words).

    But I am not giving you the benefit nor the privilege of any information regarding the topic, It is earned... at this time, you don't deserve it.

    You can brand anything as you want - it really doesn't matter... because we really don't give a f#*!&* $#3+! about what you think.

    The only people who will be - very and violently reactionary about this are those who have business interest to protect. It will be hypocritical to act as if one is championing the truth for the protection of the consumers.

    Anyway - all opinions should be respected - even if they are biased... oh - also even if they are yours. :-)

    This is what I love about public internet forums.... anyone can make a fool of themselves with their own efforts. (I am not exempted from this fact.) (specially those who have abnormally large egos.)

    Bring it on guys!

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    For the information of the public... GTO was first tested in the field in Cebu... also in India... and also in Norway.

    Here's the link for the Cebu Forums.

    GTOil users - post your comments here

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    Just an observation...

    From ehnriko's posts, I could swear as if he has something invested in GTOil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehnriko View Post
    It is not so wise not to have your own personal mind, to be easily persuaded into the suggestion of others indicates a weak brain.

    Firstly, you cannot react to something in such a manner - specially when something is not forced against your volition!

    If there is anything being forced into the consciousness of most people here in Manila... it's the use of LPG for cars!
    Oh really? I thought it was the "forced acceptance" of the ill-planned electric public transport system, in the shape of the e-jeepney.

    Years later after so many press releases and then today.... where is it? But I think we are getting away from the topic. Anyway, nice to see you active again.

    Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Just an observation...

    From ehnriko's posts, I could swear as if he has something invested in GTOil.

    parang "nangangamoy" nga......
    medyo matindi yung dating ng mga posts eh.

    OT
    sir ehnriko.....di ba ikaw yung naloko sa saudi dati?
    na tinulungan ng tsikot?
    Last edited by chua_riwap; January 28th, 2012 at 07:11 PM.

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    aw... patay tau diyan... kaya pala defensive... what a pity,,,

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