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    #301
    ung iba po kasi kaya nag bibigay ng testimonials at sabi nila na madami na ang nag claim na maganda to kasi lahat ng mga yon ay kumikita.ginawa kasi nila itong MLM eh kya natural gagawa ng testimonials ung iba dahil gusto rin nila na sila ang lapitan ng mga tao para madagdagan ang kita nila. pero tama ung sinabi ng iba dito na dapat may scientific proof talaga or mga tests na gagawin hindi lang ung sa mga sabi sabi dahil wla na tau sa lumang panahon...

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    #302
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    dude, di mo ba nakita yung word na "parang"

    sabi ko PARANG ganyan ang dating mo

    ano akala mo sa akin? di marunong mag quote?

    kung i-quo-quote ko exact words mo i would have copied and pasted it


    kaya nagkaganyan ung balita eh dahil magiging iba ang dating sa iba kung iibahin mo ang pagkasabi....hindi magkalau yan sa taong nagbabalita na may nakita syang nasagasaan...tapos pagdating naman doon sa pang limang tao na sinabihan ang sabi eh namatay ung tao na nasagasaan...ang point ko lang parang ang sama kasi ng dating ko dahil sa iniba mo ung sinabi ko..pasensya na baka mali lang din ako ng interpretasyon ko sa nilagay mo.OT na to.pasensya na.thnx

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    #303
    walang kwenta testimony

    pwede ka mag fabricate ng testimony

    pwede ka magbayad ng tao mag testimony

    pwede ka makiusap sa mga kakilala mag testimony

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    #304
    pasensya na uls,na overlooked ko ung "parang"...iba kasi ang dating sa akin eh hehehe.thnx

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    #305
    Quote Originally Posted by bugsbunny View Post
    thnx ghosthunter. na interes lang po kasi ako nito dahil may nag alok din po kasi sa akin ng green product din daw.at may papers naman sila to back up their claims from DOST nasa ibang thread po un.OFW po kasi ako at pauwi na ko in 5 months time kya naghahanap po ako ng autmotive related na bisnis na pwedeng gawin dyan sa pinas...pero parang malau sa loob ko itong gtoil na ito hehehe!
    The documents which supposed to support their claims actually contradict their claims if you give the documents further study. Unfortunately most people will not give the documents even a passing look, taking it at face value. Hence the false claims by GTOil promoters.

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    #306
    Quote Originally Posted by bugsbunny View Post
    kaya nagkaganyan ung balita eh dahil magiging iba ang dating sa iba kung iibahin mo ang pagkasabi....hindi magkalau yan sa taong nagbabalita na may nakita syang nasagasaan...tapos pagdating naman doon sa pang limang tao na sinabihan ang sabi eh namatay ung tao na nasagasaan...ang point ko lang parang ang sama kasi ng dating ko dahil sa iniba mo ung sinabi ko..pasensya na baka mali lang din ako ng interpretasyon ko sa nilagay mo.OT na to.pasensya na.thnx
    inexplain ko sayo baket ganyan ang reaction ng ibang tao sa post mo

    kasi ang dating mo parang sinasabihan mo ang mga tao dito na huwag tawagin "fake" ang GToil kung di pa nila sinusubukan

    siguro ikaw lang ang di nakapansin sa dating ng post mo

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    #307
    nawala na si enriko

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    #308
    Quote Originally Posted by bugsbunny View Post
    .. burjegol, sa pagbabasa lang po ba ng lahat ng comments dito ay makagagawa na ako ng conclusions? eh parang hindi ata ako ganoon ka talino katulad mo hehehe
    Hindi naman kelangan ang talino para maunawa-an ang mga ito bugs. Sabi mo OFW ka. Kagaya mo rin ako. Nagkakaroon din ng munting pag uunawa dahil minsan sa pagbabasa. Kaya bilang isang OFW, granted meron ka ring sapat na ka-alaman. Kung sa pagbabasa nalalaman mo na 1 + 1 = 2, tanggap mo rin di ba?

    Ngayon, bibigyan kita ng isang equation. " If A = B; and B = C, it follows that A = C", di ba?

    Now, apply it in practicality. "Most MLM are scam, GTO is MLM, doesn't it follows that GTO is mostly a scam?

    Again. GTO claims is beyond mechanical reasoning. GTO makes testimonials. Chemical, and other tests required was not furnished. The claims that it could dissolve engine sludge and dirt but will not dissolve paper filter element. Just go and read some of the ridiculous claims of this GTO and form your own conclusion

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    #309
    Quote Originally Posted by burjegol View Post
    Hindi naman kelangan ang talino para maunawa-an ang mga ito bugs. Sabi mo OFW ka. Kagaya mo rin ako. Nagkakaroon din ng munting pag uunawa dahil minsan sa pagbabasa. Kaya bilang isang OFW, granted meron ka ring sapat na ka-alaman. Kung sa pagbabasa nalalaman mo na 1 + 1 = 2, tanggap mo rin di ba?

    Ngayon, bibigyan kita ng isang equation. " If A = B; and B = C, it follows that A = C", di ba?

    Now, apply it in practicality. "Most MLM are scam, GTO is MLM, doesn't it follows that GTO is mostly a scam?

    Again. GTO claims is beyond mechanical reasoning. GTO makes testimonials. Chemical, and other tests required was not furnished. The claims that it could dissolve engine sludge and dirt but will not dissolve paper filter element. Just go and read some of the ridiculous claims of this GTO and form your own conclusion
    so we are just speculating that it is a scam...so we don't have to conclude that it is a scam just because it's an MLM.I myself is a member of an MLM company for almost 1 year now kahit nandito ako sa labas. but by merely reading comments from other post and showing test results by unauthorized individuals of course I cannot say that it is a scam.am not saying that those are fabricated results, i'm just saying I cannot base my conclusion on this product through this forum.thnx

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsbunny View Post
    so we are just speculating that it is a scam...so we don't have to conclude that it is a scam just because it's an MLM.I myself is a member of an MLM company for almost 1 year now kahit nandito ako sa labas. but by merely reading comments from other post and showing test results by unauthorized individuals of course I cannot say that it is a scam.am not saying that those are fabricated results, i'm just saying I cannot base my conclusion on this product through this forum.thnx
    Kaya nga sabi ni burjegol sa equation niya na most MLM are scam. So when we read GTOil claims, common sense would say to treat it with a grain of salt.

    Now dahil na rin sa psot nila ng isang UOA (used oil analysis) lumutang na yung baho. SO confirmed nang fake at scam lang ito kahit di mo pa subukan kasi sobra-sobra na facts against it. Naging mainit na lang ang mga later post kasi nagpupumilit pa kasi at kung ano-ano nang magic nilalabas, eh hindi naman circus ito or mga bata mga nakakasagutan nila.

    Hope that clarifies it. ;)

    Yung sa red font, PM mo si dvldoc, he will gladly give you P2,500 just so we can test it in your ride. Read back on his post.
    Fasten your seatbelt! Or else... Driven To Thrill!

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    #311
    Well, then it's sup to you to look for the meaning of SCAM. And you can compare what GTO is offering/ Ciao

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    #312
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Yung sa red font, PM mo si dvldoc, he will gladly give you P2,500 just so we can test it in your ride. Read back on his post.
    hehehe.cge pag uwi ko PM ko sya....

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    #313
    Quote Originally Posted by bugsbunny View Post
    so we are just speculating that it is a scam...so we don't have to conclude that it is a scam just because it's an MLM.I myself is a member of an MLM company for almost 1 year now kahit nandito ako sa labas. but by merely reading comments from other post and showing test results by unauthorized individuals of course I cannot say that it is a scam.am not saying that those are fabricated results, i'm just saying I cannot base my conclusion on this product through this forum.thnx
    If you really want to try to product out for yourself simply to prove it, you are welcome to your own opinion.

    We welcome you trying out the GTOil products with their recommended method of usage (no oil change forever).

    Just don't blame us if your car's engine is scrap metal after going thousands of kilometers without a proper oil change.

    Just my two cents. Peace!

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    #314
    MLM: The art of selling niche products for more than they're worth. If I want herbal/alternative health and beauty products, I just buy straight from the source (Ilog Maria, Zen, etcetera) instead of going to the mall for higher prices or through 1,001 middlemen and their 1,001 incremental mark-ups.

    Of course, there's a difference between selling relatively harmless and sometimes beneficial herbal products, medicines and vitamins and selling an additive that doesn't do what it claims on the bottle and which may result in expensive engine damage.

    Quote Originally Posted by bugsbunny View Post
    so we are just speculating that it is a scam...
    Already told you to read dvldoc's posts.

    He posted the oil analysis that came straight off of GTOil's own website.


    The Green Technology Oil: GTO Used Oil Analysis Certificate

    GTOil claims: All natural, never need to change oil again, prevents gasket damage.

    GTOil's own used oil analysis shows: High zinc content (above and beyond EPA limit and beyond what is considered safe by those who don't follow EPA guidelines), oil is excessively contaminated by metal shavings, gaskets, pistons and bearings are damaged and leaving deposits in oil, and there is the possible contamination by anti-freeze (engine coolant), which means that the gaskets are either on their way out or are completely compromised

    No need for any further speculation than that. And it's all data that came straight off GTOil's page.

    If you don't want to believe us, go ahead and do what you want.
    Last edited by niky; February 21st, 2012 at 04:55 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsbunny View Post
    so we are just speculating that it is a scam...so we don't have to conclude that it is a scam just because it's an MLM.I myself is a member of an MLM company for almost 1 year now kahit nandito ako sa labas. but by merely reading comments from other post and showing test results by unauthorized individuals of course I cannot say that it is a scam.am not saying that those are fabricated results, i'm just saying I cannot base my conclusion on this product through this forum.thnx
    hahaha

    sobra obvious defender ng GToil

    ano pa kaya username ang makikita natin sa thread na ito?

    tweetybird? sylvestercat?

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    #316
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    hahaha

    sobra obvious defender ng GToil

    ano pa kaya username ang makikita natin sa thread na ito?

    tweetybird? sylvestercat?
    IP trace checks out at Riyad, Saudi Arabia. He does claim to be an OFW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burjegol View Post
    The claims that it could dissolve engine sludge and dirt but will not dissolve paper filter element. Just go and read some of the ridiculous claims of this GTO and form your own conclusion
    Eve if GTO can soften some dirt it wouldn't eliminate its effects in the engine. The GTO-treated oil would still be contaminated and require a replacement.

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    #318
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    IP trace checks out at Riyad, Saudi Arabia. He does claim to be an OFW.
    GUyz,i'm not defending GTOil .na interest lang ako dahil sa discussion nyo and i'm not hiding myself.my real name is Semie Borja jr. you can search me in FB with my email add: semieborja*yahoo.com.ph and in my website * www.ofwbiz.webs.com na natin pagtaluhan ang MLM dahil alam ko nman na hindi para sa inyo un at hindi rin po ako aalalay ng GToil. na interes lang ako sa product na un....but it doesn't mean na agree na ako sa mga claims nila...

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    We're not saying MLM is a scam per se. What we're saying is: GTOIL is a moneymaking scam.

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    #320
    na-interested ka sa GToil dahil sa pagiging MLM nila?

    o na-interested ka dahil gusto mo subukan sa sasakyan mo?

Has anyone heard of GTOil / NOW12? Is this a scam?