Has anyone heard of GTOil / NOW12? Is this a scam?

**jaymd** · February 1st, 2012 02:04 PM

Sorry OT. quick question kay dvldoc. yun isa ko kotse 17 months na yun oil nya na shell helix ultra 5w40. tinakbo in 17 months ay 3k kms lang. Panis na kaya yun oil?

**EE100shiro** · February 1st, 2012 02:11 PM

He he he he he!!!

**dvldoc** · February 1st, 2012 02:16 PM

Oil does not so much go bad as it wears out, but it can get contaminates in it even from short use like fuel and other particles that can settle out and gum things up if it's cheap stuff, but as long as your starting it up and letting it reach operating temps it will be fine. Feel free to ask your oil questions in the Remote bypass filter thread lots of contributions from members on there.

**jaymd** · February 1st, 2012 02:49 PM

salamat!!! changed my foam filter to stock na din. baka magfoul yun MAF sensor e. tsaka mas mabilis umitim oil sa aftermarket filters

**renzo_d10** · February 1st, 2012 05:52 PM

Nakaka-mindf*ck yung mga posts ni dvldoc.

But I applaud you sir for exerting effort in proving something that's already obviously bogus.

I also applaud your knowledge when it comes to oils and the like.

More power!

**ghosthunter** · February 1st, 2012 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by jaymd

salamat!!! changed my foam filter to stock na din. baka magfoul yun MAF sensor e. tsaka mas mabilis umitim oil sa aftermarket filters

In the past, I also tried foam type air-filters. I went back to the typical cone filter after a few weeks.

**chua_riwap** · February 1st, 2012 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by renzo_d10

Nakaka-mindf*ck yung mga posts ni dvldoc.
But I applaud you sir for exerting effort in proving something that's already obviously bogus.

I also applaud your knowledge when it comes to oils and the like.

More power!

admire him also.
very technical.

**dvldoc** · February 1st, 2012 10:18 PM

Lots of guys on here have given good technical reasons why this product is a total scam, You can only defend the indefensible for so long. Lots of legit additives out there that can be used to extend the service life of your oil without destroying your engine. Pretty much the best one I have seen in the Phils is the liquiMoly it's a good price and really helps out on friction wear without a sacrifice in catalytic converter life. I don't know what in the top 1 additive but I intend to find out so far I can't find it locally.

**ehnriko** · February 2nd, 2012 08:00 AM

In most field test, we have what you call Third Party Blind testing...

It is an event where a product is tested but it was not announced to everyone concerned.

This type of test is best done on a race track in an actual race.

This is one of the recent "Actual" test of such type.

The 11th Tough Truck Challenge held last December 3-4, 2011, at Clark, Pampanga

This is the result:

Tough Truck Challenge XI Official Results:
Rank Name Club Track A & B Track C Total A, B & C
1 Michael Cerin 4WDAVAO 0:13:06.46 0:08:27.96 0:21:34.42
2 Noel Bartolome Jr LCCP 0:14:06.79 0:08:07.78 0:22:14.57
3 Edison Dungca Kapampangan 0:17:52.78 0:08:27.67 0:26:20.45
4 Maila Alivia Isabela Extereme 0:19:18.24 0:08:58.43 0:28:16.67
5 Jojo Javier Kapampangan 0:17:01.23 0:11:31.31 0:28:32.54
6 Boyie Doblada BRO 0:21:42.93 0:08:41.70 0:30:24.63
7 Jek Sason Kapampangan 0:25:07.75 0:09:00.53 0:34:08.28
8 Alvin Yuboco Bicol Off Road 0:22:47.70 0:12:14.10 0:35:01.80
9 Romer Mariano BRO 0:25:41.03 0:10:31.21 0:36:12.24
10 Harold Vicencio Kapampangan 0:20:36.14 0:16:10.69 0:36:46.83
11 Man Man Bengco Kapampangan 0:21:56.10 0:18:49.49 0:40.45.59
12 Bong Collado Isabela Extreme 0:35:09.01 0:07:16.51 0:42:25.52
13 Reynan Jayme Waig Adventure Bukidnon 0:37:53.94 0:07:13.52 0:45:07.46
14 Jojo Sison Isabela Extreme 0:35:19.70 0:10:43.92 0:46:03.62
15 Ernesto Ngo LCCP 0:36:46.89 0:09:56.30 0:46:43:19
16 Kim John Casil Gensan 4x4 Fun Club 0:38:06.88 0:10:05.06 0:48:11.94
17 Joel Oliveros Nueva Ecija 0:20:01.93 0:30:00.00 0:50:01.93
18 Rimpy Bondoc Kapampangan 0:26:07.94 0:30:00.00 0:56:07.94
19 Jerry Ross Corpuz Batac 0:36:56:38 0:30:00.00 1:06.56.38
20 Victor Dy Isabela Extreme 0:37:08.84 0:30:00.00 1:07:08.84

Michaels' Truck was treated with GTO last year.

His performance last year in Davao after GTO treatment was improved since he was able to get more torque at lower rpm range (very crucial in Off road racing)

He bagged the fastest time of the day last year in Bukidnon the day after GTO treatment. His being Champion last December is just consistent.

Was GTO responsible for this?... or is Michael Cerin just a better driver? (Magaling talaga pag Taga Davao)

The proof is in the pudding.

**ehnriko** · February 2nd, 2012 08:04 AM

GTO is not the sponsor of this race... we don't think GTO needs to advertise in such a manner really. A friend from Amsoil also had similar experience when they were starting. They dont mind if they were not advertised in the races... they were already happy for the fact that the Champions were using their oil. Same thing with GTO.

Here's the link for that Tough Truck Offroad story for everybodys reference.

Mud, Glorious Mud: The Philippine Tough Truck Challenge XI