Diesel owners that add 2T oil to fuel

[Noel Salisipan]

Are there any noticeable effects or benefits between using jaso fb & jaso fc 2SO in diesel cars such as fortuner?

Price difference is night & day
So may be i could assume the effects/performance
Is also night & day?

Used both before, I don't see significnt ifference to justify the price disparity imho.

Pag hindi nagluko ang SCV at fuel injectors after 40k-km of use ok lang yung price difference, bonus pa pag inabot ng 60k-km ang odo. ng walang problema. Since ito naman ang pinaka advisable na grade.

As per my computation if 150 pesos ang difference, sa 40k-km odo. around 3k-pesos na mas magastos ang paggamit ng FC grade compare sa FB grade na 2t.

[rac98]

Pag hindi nagluko ang SCV at fuel injectors after 40k-km of use ok lang yung price difference, bonus pa pag inabot ng 60k-km ang odo. ng walang problema. Since ito naman ang pinaka advisable na grade.

As per my computation if 150 pesos ang difference, sa 40k-km odo. around 3k-pesos na mas magastos ang paggamit ng FC grade compare sa FB grade na 2t.

Earlier posts of devildoc indicates that fb rated is ok. There is no difference when it comes to fb rated and fc rated.

[rac98]

After further research it really does not make much difference on what JASO rating you use on non-synthetic oils. Here's why, the FC is low ash oil meaning it has a lower Zinc content (zinc when burt makes ash) which can cause deposits in 2 stroke engines. Here's why it's not applical in the application were are using it for one is the compression ratio and combustion temps in a diesel engine and volume of air flow through the engine will push most the unburnt ash out through the exhaust and what is left out your exhaust and the oil will collect the rest.

Here's the other kicker, Diesel oil already has a very high zinc content and is getting burnt in your combustion chamber thanks to that handy EGR and the breather hose that recirullates air back into your intake, If you don't have a oil catch can your already getting oil vapor back into the combustion chambers. So there is almost zero difference if your using 2T that is not FC because if you have a functional EGR system on your diesel or have not added a oil catch can, your still burning zinc and making ash. No harm no foul.

Lastly the sheer act of burning diesel makes ash and soot, so it's a moot point, suprised my little brain did not wrap around this earlier

If your running Synthetic oil then your still burning those same particles via the same method, But it would make no sence to use synthetic. Use the Cheapest 2T you can find because the results will be about the same.

From page 38.

[Noel Salisipan]

Earlier posts of devildoc indicates that fb rated is ok. There is no difference when it comes to fb rated and fc rated.

Or it is a matter of comprehending the statement...

From page 38, same post...

...FC is low ash oil meaning it has a lower Zinc content (zinc when burt makes ash) which can cause deposits in 2 stroke engines.

Here's the other kicker, Diesel oil already has a very high zinc content and is getting burnt in your combustion chamber.... "So there is almost zero difference if your using 2T that is not FC".

FC was recommended from pharagraph 1.
Due to high zinc content from diesel it is the same if not using FC grade. - From pharagraph 2.

Lastly the sheer act of burning diesel makes ash and soot, so it's a moot point, suprised my little brain did not wrap around this earlier

If your running Synthetic oil then your still burning those same particles via the same method, But it would make no sence to use synthetic. "Use the Cheapest 2T you can find because the results will be about the same".

Use of cheapest 2t hence it will be the same as using synthetic oil that contributes ash & sooth.

[sirmykel]

From page 38.

clarify lang sir, if you have a working EGR, then you can opt not to use an oil catch can as an accessory?

[rac98]

Afaik it is better to have an oil catch can even if you have a working egr.

[SaberNZ]

Pwede kaya to gamitin sa isuzu trooper na 4jg2 engine.

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Sir jhunter, kung hindi pa na address ang question mo pwedeng gamitin ang 2T sa isuzu trooper. naglagay ako sa isuzu bighorn ko 4jg2 engine ok resulta. nasa new zealand ako kaya nagtataka oil supplier ko bakit ako naglalagay lol.

[Ry_Tower]

Afaik it is better to have an oil catch can even if you have a working egr.

Yes, the OCC may even extedn the cleaning phase of the EGR and prevent it from getting stuck in an open position which is a bad thing. Okay sana kung closed position.

[jhunter]

Thank you sir saberNZ, try ko rin sa trooper ko.

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[SaberNZ]

Sir jhunter, kung hindi pa na address ang question mo pwedeng gamitin ang 2T sa isuzu trooper. naglagay ako sa isuzu bighorn ko 4jg2 engine ok resulta. nasa new zealand ako kaya nagtataka oil supplier ko bakit ako naglalagay lol.

Sir jhunter, I'vee been using 2T in my Isuzu Bighorn/Trooper for about a month now at pumino nga ang andar tapos mas magaang ang takbo yun bang hindi hirap ang makina. Parang naka lutang pag na accelerate. No changes though on fuel consumption.

[9701]

Yes, the OCC may even extedn the cleaning phase of the EGR and prevent it from getting stuck in an open position which is a bad thing. Okay sana kung closed position.

Sir Ry, we have already "blanked" the egr of my 4m40, will it make sense if i again "revive" it? I already have an OCC installed as well. TIA

[Ry_Tower]

Sir Ry, we have already "blanked" the egr of my 4m40, will it make sense if i again "revive" it? I already have an OCC installed as well. TIA

No need na, okay na yan.

[MrQ5]

kung lilinisin mo egr wag ka gagamit ng carb cleaner sisirain nito yung position sensor. linis mo na lang siguro may faulf code sa egr.

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[9701]

Thanks and gd am po....

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[atongk]

LJ78 Prado, 2LTE engine, Petron Diesel max ….. been using petron 2t FB two small bottles per full tank, gumanda takbo, nawala usok and vibration . . .thanks guys . .

[Rethinker]

Sorry guys... It's a loooong thread so i have to as a question that's probably been asked pages ago.
Just want to double check. Pwede ba to sa bagong Pajero? I know sa earlier pages, sinabi na yung jap crdi's dpa katulad ng korean and euro crdi's na umaabot ng 24k psi yung pressure. Just want to verify kung kasali ba dito yung Pajero engine ko, or even better, if anyone is successfully running 2t in theirs.

[testament11]

4M41 engine ba yan? Alam ko parang may nakagawa na niyan pero sa Strada

[TheGreenThing]

Alot of guys in SA4x4 forum are swearing the use of 2SO in diesel.. Meanwhile here in tsikot 99% of the users are happy.. Ano ba talaga dapat?

[Rethinker]

Yes, the manual says 4m41. Pareho lang ba yun exactly? I mean, being in 2 different car models, are there differences to consider between their fuel systems, perhaps different turbos if that's even part of the equation? Pasensya, di kase ako ganun ka familiar sa cars and engines, mechanically speaking.
TheGreenThing: sa Aussie4x4 forums marami din gumagamit pero sa nabasa ko, mostly older engines.

[testament11]

Yes, the manual says 4m41. Pareho lang ba yun exactly? I mean, being in 2 different car models, are there differences to consider between their fuel systems, perhaps different turbos if that's even part of the equation? Pasensya, di kase ako ganun ka familiar sa cars and engines, mechanically speaking.
TheGreenThing: sa Aussie4x4 forums marami din gumagamit pero sa nabasa ko, mostly older engines.

Yes. Parehong 4M41 lang yan nasa Pajero, Strada, at MS GLS SE 4x4.