Diesel owners that add 2T oil to fuel

[MrQ5]

old school diesel where not designed for this kind of fuel, thus elastomer seals will deteriorate over time and will cause leak. I think it already mentioned on this thread (not me)

the additives/chemicals they use and formulate biodiesel or FAME(Fatty acid methyl esters) is what the FIE manufacturers wants to know but unfortunately fuel industry will not divulge everything.

lubricity is not the main concern over fouling using biofuel, its what the other stuff like water, soaps, sodium, etc.

Sorry im not technically declined to discuss this things.

only want to share this, while researching for pre-filter to an innova diesel engine, if its beneficial or not; im encountered those research papers.

Maybe google will help you. search "denso study biodiesel injectors"

Im just want to point out be very choosy in fuel stations.

http://www.innospecinc.com/assets/_f...Injector_D.pdf 2011
http://www.biopowered.co.uk/download/FIEM.pdf 2000
http://www.globaldenso.com/en/topics...tion_paper.pdf 2012

Petron acknowlege some of the challenges for RA 9367: “Biofuels Act of 2006”
http://www.pecj.or.jp/japanese/overs...o_S_Toledo.pdf

[falken]

old school diesel where not designed for this kind of fuel, thus elastomer seals will deteriorate over time and will cause leak. I think it already mentioned on this thread (not me)

the additives/chemicals they use and formulate biodiesel or FAME(Fatty acid methyl esters) is what the FIE manufacturers wants to know but unfortunately fuel industry will not divulge everything.

lubricity is not the main concern over fouling using biofuel, its what the other stuff like water, soaps, sodium, etc.

Sorry im not technically declined to discuss this things.

only want to share this, while researching for pre-filter to an innova diesel engine, if its beneficial or not; im encountered those research papers.

Maybe google will help you. search "denso study biodiesel injectors"

Im just want to point out be very choosy in fuel stations.

http://www.innospecinc.com/assets/_f...Injector_D.pdf 2011
http://www.biopowered.co.uk/download/FIEM.pdf 2000
http://www.globaldenso.com/en/topics...tion_paper.pdf 2012

Petron acknowlege some of the challenges for RA 9367: “Biofuels Act of 2006”
http://www.pecj.or.jp/japanese/overs...o_S_Toledo.pdf

To clarify, using properly made biodiesel will only cause problems on diesel engined cars manufactured before 1993. Other than that, there should be no problem. In my post earlier, I was just stating that adding biodiesel increases the lubricity our diesel fuel. Therefore, increasing the blend from B2 to B10 would increase the lubricity. Anyway, here are some interesting links about the pros and cons of biodiesel.

http://www.biodiesel.org/docs/ffs-pe...patibility.pdf
Biodiesel Production : Alternative Fuels / Fuel - Pacific Biodiesel
Run Your Car On Bio-diesel - The Good And Bad Points Of Bio Fuel
Los Angeles Biodiesel-Coop » Biodiesel Information, Tips, Fuel, Conversion, Membership » Biodiesel FAQ
http://pubs.cas.psu.edu/freepubs/pdfs/uc204.pdf
Biodiesel Mythbuster 2.0: Twenty-Two Biodiesel Myths Dispelled - Gas 2

[falken]

old school diesel where not designed for this kind of fuel, thus elastomer seals will deteriorate over time and will cause leak. I think it already mentioned on this thread (not me)

the additives/chemicals they use and formulate biodiesel or FAME(Fatty acid methyl esters) is what the FIE manufacturers wants to know but unfortunately fuel industry will not divulge everything.

lubricity is not the main concern over fouling using biofuel, its what the other stuff like water, soaps, sodium, etc.

Sorry im not technically declined to discuss this things.

only want to share this, while researching for pre-filter to an innova diesel engine, if its beneficial or not; im encountered those research papers.

Maybe google will help you. search "denso study biodiesel injectors"

Im just want to point out be very choosy in fuel stations.

http://www.innospecinc.com/assets/_f...Injector_D.pdf 2011
http://www.biopowered.co.uk/download/FIEM.pdf 2000
http://www.globaldenso.com/en/topics...tion_paper.pdf 2012

Petron acknowlege some of the challenges for RA 9367: “Biofuels Act of 2006”
http://www.pecj.or.jp/japanese/overs...o_S_Toledo.pdf

To clarify, using properly made biodiesel will only cause problems on diesel engined cars manufactured before 1993. Other than that, there should be no problem. In my post earlier, I was just stating that adding biodiesel increases the lubricity our diesel fuel. Therefore, increasing the blend from B2 to B10 would increase the lubricity. Anyway, here are some interesting links about the pros and cons of biodiesel.

http://www.biodiesel.org/docs/ffs-pe...patibility.pdf
Biodiesel Production : Alternative Fuels / Fuel - Pacific Biodiesel
Run Your Car On Bio-diesel - The Good And Bad Points Of Bio Fuel
Los Angeles Biodiesel-Coop » Biodiesel Information, Tips, Fuel, Conversion, Membership » Biodiesel FAQ
http://pubs.cas.psu.edu/freepubs/pdfs/uc204.pdf
Biodiesel Mythbuster 2.0: Twenty-Two Biodiesel Myths Dispelled - Gas 2

[falken]

To clarify, using properly made biodiesel will only cause problems on diesel engined cars manufactured before 1993. Other than that, there should be no problem. In my post earlier, I was just stating that adding biodiesel increases the lubricity our diesel fuel. Therefore, increasing the blend from B2 to B10 would increase the lubricity. Anyway, here are some interesting links about the pros and cons of biodiesel.

http://www.biodiesel.org/docs/ffs-pe...patibility.pdf
Biodiesel Production : Alternative Fuels / Fuel - Pacific Biodiesel
Run Your Car On Bio-diesel - The Good And Bad Points Of Bio Fuel
Los Angeles Biodiesel-Coop » Biodiesel Information, Tips, Fuel, Conversion, Membership » Biodiesel FAQ
http://pubs.cas.psu.edu/freepubs/pdfs/uc204.pdf
Biodiesel Mythbuster 2.0: Twenty-Two Biodiesel Myths Dispelled - Gas 2

[falken]

To clarify, using properly made biodiesel will only cause problems on diesel engined cars manufactured before 1993. Other than that, there should be no problem. In my post earlier, I was just stating that adding biodiesel increases the lubricity our diesel fuel. Therefore, increasing the blend from B2 to B10 would increase the lubricity. Anyway, here are some interesting links about the pros and cons of biodiesel.

http://www.biodiesel.org/docs/ffs-pe...patibility.pdf
Biodiesel Production : Alternative Fuels / Fuel - Pacific Biodiesel
Run Your Car On Bio-diesel - The Good And Bad Points Of Bio Fuel
Los Angeles Biodiesel-Coop » Biodiesel Information, Tips, Fuel, Conversion, Membership » Biodiesel FAQ
http://pubs.cas.psu.edu/freepubs/pdfs/uc204.pdf
Biodiesel Mythbuster 2.0: Twenty-Two Biodiesel Myths Dispelled - Gas 2

[romeocharlie]

Guys pwede po ba toh sa fieldmaster 2007, 4m40 engine.. And ano po recommended ratio? Ano mas advisable na diesel? Shell or petron? Wala po kase unioil dito.. Salamat po..


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[MrQ5]

yung fuel station na wala flood prone area or elevated at madaming nagpapakarga tapos obserbahan mo ko ok yung karga ng station.

ako kasi Petron hanggat maaari, pero madalas doon sa PUJ discounted pump section ng mga independent fuel station para mura

[jabotsky]

just read this thread,,,my trooper 4jx1 is a smoke belcher....can 2t solve this problem?

[12vdc]

just read this thread,,,my trooper 4jx1 is a smoke belcher....can 2t solve this problem?

No harm in trying.

At 20-30 pesos per bottle, its one of the cheapest mod around.

Put all the contents of 400mL bottle in your tank then see for yourself. :thumbup:

[MrQ5]

suggestion ko ay try it, pero di nito ma-solve lahat ng emission fault ng 4jx1.

Parang may bad reputaion yata yan, kahit sa club isuzu pag di ka mahusay sa maintenance sakit sa ulo, dapat may advil ka lagi sa bulsa para inumin

[dh0n]

just read this thread,,,my trooper 4jx1 is a smoke belcher....can 2t solve this problem?

try mo palinis ang intake mo sir(pulldown) kasama na dun ang linis ng egr...been doing these ever since every 20k km after cleaning replace also air filter and have a tambutcho cleaning/flushing... effective ito sa akin...,

been using 2t sa crosswind but sa 4jx1 hindi pa takot ako wala pa akong narinig na nag try na sa 4jx1(sana meron)...meron akong kakilala gumagamit ng petron fuel additives(dont know the name) yung tig 60 pesos per 100ml yata yun...less smoke daw and improve FC...

[ek2jayvee]

My source for the maximum fuel rail pressure during operation for the Mitsu VGT engine of 1800 bar and nonVGT of 1350 bar is the Mitsubishi Service Manual Viewer System, btw.

Since they are using the same fuel rail, we can say that yes the tolerance of the fuel rail is 1800 bar. The actual limit is 2210 bar, the pressure when the rail pressure limiter opens. Source: Denso HP3 service manual.

Bottomline, for Mitsu CRDIs, 2T is okay to use.

[jay185]

3rd full tank ko na with shell 2t.

report ko lang

my average diesel top up would be 70Liters out of the 80Liters tank capacity
without 2t, average fuel consumption with my navara is 7.5km/L pure city driving
after 2t using mix of 5ml of 2t per 1L of diesel
1st full tank Phoenix Diesel = 8.79km/L
2nd full tank Caltex Diesel = 8.7km/L

am on my 3rd now, I did fill my tank with unioil's diesel. i'll report my FC with this brand after my next full tank

so far am happy with the results

[Diesel_Torque]

Mga Bossing Isuzu problematic 4jx1 here, near empty fuel tank (nka-ilaw na warning) i put 500Php of Petron Diesel Max(Low Sulfur daw ito sabi sa website nila maybe below 500ppm) 40.00Php per Liter that time and with the Mileage of 110,000KM. na captured ang attention ko kasi sabi nila mawawala daw Vibration if you put 2T. By the way my 4jx1 already running 3 Injectors kaya malakas ang Vibration bumigay na ung isa nung nag-overheat last summer nung Holy Week. Well so far nabawasan ung Vibration and hindi na masyado Visible ung Black Smoke. Well i think it really works kasi sa Australia gumagamit din sila ng 2T kasi nga sobra Low sulfur sa kanila as in 10ppm i think kaya magaspang ang andar ng makina sa katagalan. Shell 2T with Decarbonizer pala ginamit ko so far every day ang pag gamit ko sa Trooper 4jx1 ko running 115,350KM as of now.

[romeocharlie]

Question about sa maintenance:

Tuwing kailan po papaltan ang fuel filter kapag diesel+2t user? Is there a specific pattern, like how many months or kms? Or by inspection lang? Salamat po.


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[12vdc]

^ 2T oil does not foul diesel oil, they are both oil so they mixes well.

In some diesel forums, they say you can fill the tank with pure 2T and the engine will work normally..

Just follow the usual FF replacement interval as recommended by your dealer/ manual and you will be fine.

[MrQ5]

sa crdi system para mas maganda proteksyon sa injectors ay secondary na fuel fillter system w/ water separator, high flow rate 30micron para sa water separation lang ang focus. ito sana gusto ko kaya lang madugo >10k sa berrima.

Sa pagpalit ng fuel filter kung element lang papalitan sir, kailangan maingat kayo, baka maka-introduce kayo ng dumi (micron size) sa injectors.

[TheGreenThing]

Regular replacing your fuel filter every 10,000km will do the job.. Oh & avoid flooded gas station

My concern is, do i still need to follow 200ml per 40L diesel in using euro2 diesels?

[halimaw]

Question about sa maintenance:

Tuwing kailan po papaltan ang fuel filter kapag diesel+2t user? Is there a specific pattern, like how many months or kms? Or by inspection lang? Salamat po.


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Sa unang gamit mo sir ng 2T, best to replace your fuel filter after a month of regular use of 2T. Sa fuel filter kasi mapupunta yung mga malilinis ng 2T from Tank-Fuel Line going to your FF. Then diesel purge naman para sa after FF to engine internals. Di mo kelangan gawin to lagi, sa simula lang para matanggal yung mga duming nalinis at na loosen ng 2T.


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[romeocharlie]

I'm now joining the experience, top-up 45 liters kanina + 250ml 2T (1/8 pa kase tank) tapos ginawa kong calibration ng 2T eh yung lalagyan ng mouth wash.. Wala kase ako mahanap na ibang botelya sa garahe.. Hehehhe..

Petron diesel max + petron 2t powerburn jaso fb combo on my fieldmaster 2007 4m40.

Nun inabot ko sa pump attendant yung 2t eh i was surprised na di sya nagtanong bakit or ano yung ipapalagay ko, sabi lang nya "turbo booster toh sir noh".. I just smiled..

I feel less vibration and slight engine noise reduction, i dunno if its just a placebo excitement feeling.. Since sabi nga give it atleast 50kms to take effect, pero parang pag andar ko eh may pagbabago na... Hehehe.. I hope it would get better from here on..

Salamat sa thread na toh.. Thanks din kay sir halimaw for some personal tips..

More power diesel + 2t users! ;)


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