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    A Recent Technical Study of 2-Stroke Oil in Diesel presented at the 11th International Tribology Conference (March 10-12, 2015)

    http://http://www.fuelexpert.co.za/2-stroke-oil-in-diesel-technical-study.php

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    I hope dvldoc, our TS, gets to read this and give his comment

    Quote Originally Posted by BEAV View Post
    A Recent Technical Study of 2-Stroke Oil in Diesel presented at the 11th International Tribology Conference (March 10-12, 2015)

    http://http://www.fuelexpert.co.za/2-stroke-oil-in-diesel-technical-study.php
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    I hope dvldoc, our TS, gets to read this and give his comment

    Quote Originally Posted by BEAV View Post
    A Recent Technical Study of 2-Stroke Oil in Diesel presented at the 11th International Tribology Conference (March 10-12, 2015)

    http://http://www.fuelexpert.co.za/2-stroke-oil-in-diesel-technical-study.php

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    ang tanong, do we still need to add 2T, kasi B2 or 2% biodiesel blend na diesel sa pinas.

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    [QUOTE=vix;2511616]ang tanong, do we still need to add 2T, kasi B2 or 2% biodiesel blend na diesel sa pinas.[/QUOTE

    o.t. lang

    may iilan kaming gensets.. na sa katagalan pag BIODIESEL type of fuel ang kinarga... nag seseperate yung diesel sa biodiesel... ito ang nagiging dahilan ng hindi pag start ng gensets.. parang may nata de-coco residue na naiiwan and it got stock sa fuel line and filters..

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    [QUOTE=vix;2511616]ang tanong, do we still need to add 2T, kasi B2 or 2% biodiesel blend na diesel sa pinas.[/QUOTE

    o.t. lang

    may iilan kaming gensets.. na sa katagalan pag BIODIESEL type of fuel ang kinarga... nag seseperate yung diesel sa biodiesel... ito ang nagiging dahilan ng hindi pag start ng gensets.. parang may nata de-coco residue na naiiwan and it got stock sa fuel line and filters..

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    [QUOTE=glenn manikis;2511638][QUOTE=vix;2511616]ang tanong, do we still need to add 2T, kasi B2 or 2% biodiesel blend na diesel sa pinas.[/QUOTE

    o.t. lang

    may iilan kaming gensets.. na sa katagalan pag BIODIESEL type of fuel ang kinarga... nag seseperate yung diesel sa biodiesel... ito ang nagiging dahilan ng hindi pag start ng gensets.. parang may nata de-coco residue na naiiwan and it got stock sa fuel line and filters..

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    Quote Originally Posted by vix View Post
    ang tanong, do we still need to add 2T, kasi B2 or 2% biodiesel blend na diesel sa pinas.[/QUOTE

    o.t. lang

    may iilan kaming gensets.. na sa katagalan pag BIODIESEL type of fuel ang kinarga... nag seseperate yung diesel sa biodiesel... ito ang nagiging dahilan ng hindi pag start ng gensets.. parang may nata de-coco residue na naiiwan and it got stock sa fuel line and filters..
    baka sir yung pamumuo eh dahi sa germs, bacteria or fungi di ko sure alin sa dalawa pero pag na stock matagal diesel ito ang mag colonnize mamuo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vix View Post
    ang tanong, do we still need to add 2T, kasi B2 or 2% biodiesel blend na diesel sa pinas.
    Its not really a need, its just a preference.. And based on user feedbacks, there are improvements..

    My 7 y/o fm 4m40 runs more quiet than brand new diesel rigs that doesn't add 2t..

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    im also adding 2t on my 1 month old H100
    nung una pansing ko ung nginig ng makina pag idling lalo na pag nag automatic ung aircon
    when i reach 2k to 3k mileage less na ung nginig

    now im at 4,5k odo ok naman.

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    im also adding 2t on my 1 month old H100
    nung una pansing ko ung nginig ng makina pag idling lalo na pag nag automatic ung aircon
    when i reach 2k to 3k mileage less na ung nginig

    now im at 4,5k odo ok naman.

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    Hi i added 2t on my 4d56 for about 5 months. Pansin ko nagkakaroon ng leak sa may body ng fuel injector. Esp. Where the nozzles are fitted. I was wondering if 2t oils really make it past the oil seals? Kasi when i stopped using it, the leaks disappeared. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulomik View Post
    Hi i added 2t on my 4d56 for about 5 months. Pansin ko nagkakaroon ng leak sa may body ng fuel injector. Esp. Where the nozzles are fitted. I was wondering if 2t oils really make it past the oil seals? Kasi when i stopped using it, the leaks disappeared. Thanks
    injection pump ba o sa nozzles? kung injection pump iyan e gano na ba katanda yang makina? di naman nangyari iyan sa akin nung araw. pati na rin sa pinsan ko.

    pwedeng coincidence din.

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    Yung report na yan FC rated gamit na 2t. Tapos modern engine ginamit. Wala naman ata low pressure commonrail dun, puro high-pressure ginamit for testing eh, hindi talaga puwede 2T dyan. Sa 2t naman, german manufacturers ang gumawa nang test. Mas magtitiwala ako kesa south africans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Yung report na yan FC rated gamit na 2t. Tapos modern engine ginamit. Wala naman ata low pressure commonrail dun, puro high-pressure ginamit for testing eh, hindi talaga puwede 2T dyan. Sa 2t naman, german manufacturers ang gumawa nang test. Mas magtitiwala ako kesa south africans.
    yup....marami rami pa rin factors to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Yung report na yan FC rated gamit na 2t. Tapos modern engine ginamit. Wala naman ata low pressure commonrail dun, puro high-pressure ginamit for testing eh, hindi talaga puwede 2T dyan. Sa 2t naman, german manufacturers ang gumawa nang test. Mas magtitiwala ako kesa south africans.
    yup....marami rami pa rin factors to consider.

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    I would refer you to the original post and the levels of lubrication 2T provides.

    This study is also on ULSF we are talking 50 ppm and less we are 500 ppm here big difference.

    Questions to ask yourself real world results or possibly bias testing? Does your engine shake less and run smoother. Check! Does it smoke less, check!. Have you ever heard of decreased fuel economy after years of use due to clogged injectors?? Heck no. Had in my van since 2010. 1ppm of zinc is not going to clogg a injector operating at 1000's of psi. No more than the dirty fuel here which are far larger micron particles that get past your filter.

    If you like your old school diesel loud like a tractor and like to replace injection pumps feel free to discontinue use of 2T.

    These test don't apply to the older engines and low pressure injection systems we use 2T on here in the Philippines. Nor do they apply to the current level of sulfur in the fuel here. If we ever getget a Euro 4 we are all screwed with 50 ppm sulfur in the fuel that have older engines.

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    *dvldoc

    Thank you for your last post. I am a firm believer of using 2T in my diesel fed Fortuner 2012 3.0 and Tucson 2006. I will not stop using this as I know the benefits far outweigh the disadvantages. Cheers

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    No problem *kraulto. Im thinking about trying it out again. Just to satisfy my curiosity as to the prrofrmance boost by adding 2t in diesel fuel.

    On another note bro, how much did you spend for overhaul? I also have a paj 97 local 4d56.

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    Hopefully, this time around 2T will work for you. Spent total P106,690, labor and parts, all OEM. If ever the time comes that your engine needs an OH, can't stress enough the value and necessity of a TRUSTED mechanic. An unfortunate event i experienced, resulting in the early demise of my engine considering it was OH on 7/27/12, it was a simple oil leak but the mechanic told me it needed an OH, and then a 2nd one 10/25/2012, wherein the engine actually seized on me while on the NLEX, performed by the same mechanic as back job. Almost lost faith in all mechanics til i met my current mechanic. So in reality, this is the 3rd OH.

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    Very sorry to hear that sir. Why not try the services of known pajero mechanic like the guru, engr. Joseph atutubo? Just my thoughts po. Gd am po.

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    Thanks for the suggestion but tried him once, and never again. Very frustrating since he was highly recommended. Without going into specifics, he conducted himself in an extremely unprofessional manner, and his demeanor was unbelievably appalling.

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    I apologize for my rant and veer off topic. Any hypothesis on the possibility that 2t could've added to the early demise of my Injection Pump and is there any such detriment in using 2T for overhauled engines and newly calibrated IP's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kraulto View Post
    I apologize for my rant and veer off topic. Any hypothesis on the possibility that 2t could've added to the early demise of my Injection Pump and is there any such detriment in using 2T for overhauled engines and newly calibrated IP's?
    anu ba reason at na-overhaul ang engine mo at injection pump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kraulto View Post
    I apologize for my rant and veer off topic. Any hypothesis on the possibility that 2t could've added to the early demise of my Injection Pump and is there any such detriment in using 2T for overhauled engines and newly calibrated IP's?
    anu ba reason at na-overhaul ang engine mo at injection pump?

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    The Engine displays Blow By symptoms. Since engine was already being overhauled, had the Injection Pump checked out. It was calibrated, gaskets and nozzles replaced, but not overhauled.

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