Diesel engine cars vs gas engine cars. Newbie po

**bloowolf** · November 24th, 2014 08:39 PM

Ang issue ko sa diesel car ko vs. my gas one, aside from the cost & efficiency of the diesel is that sa diesel, di pwede yung pag para, patay agad. Ipapa-cool down pa yung turbo, di gaya ng gas na pwede patay agad. Pag nag mamadali, kailangan pa antayin. Di rin advised na extended idling (as per manual). Medjo mas maalaga talaga diesel.

**shibby75** · November 24th, 2014 09:04 PM

Yan din isang issue ko sa diesel ngayon, extended idling. Madalas ako maghintay ke esmi or sa school ng mga bata, minsan morethan 1 hour pa. Definitely maluluto kagad turbo pag ganon.

**Monty** · November 24th, 2014 09:19 PM

Bloowolf, turbo timer lang katapat nyan.

**cast_no_shadow** · November 24th, 2014 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by shibby75

Yan din isang issue ko sa diesel ngayon, extended idling. Madalas ako maghintay ke esmi or sa school ng mga bata, minsan morethan 1 hour pa. Definitely maluluto kagad turbo pag ganon.

OT

Naalala ko lang umuwi kami mindoro sakay ng RORO may sumakay na SUV (diesel) forgot what model mula pagsakay hanggang dumating ng calapan hindi nagpatay ng makina, naka aircon sila sa loob. Walandyo lagpas 2hrs byahe batangas - calapan ha?

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**playplugg** · November 24th, 2014 10:45 PM

Gasoline Engine,

Smoothness pag dating sa acceleration, quiet engine, and madaling mag-warm up ang engine, bago gamitin after rest period
least pag dating sa maintenance, babawi lang sa mismong Fuel consumption

Diesel engine,

Very FC efficient lalo sa long distance driving, + yung torque at low rpm, ramdam agad yung pulling power,
medyo magsapang yung takbo tapos kung merong turbo, ramdam yung turbo lag, then at least 5mins minimum to warm up the diesel engine after rest period,

babawi naman pag dating sa maintenance kasi mas complicated ang diesel sa gasoline.

about naman sa cooldown ng engine both gasoline at diesel.

normal practice ko po is to idle at least 5mins(gasoline) 10mins(diesel), para iwas sa thermal shock lalo pag galing sa long speed drive at may passenger or extreme traffic, (kasi once na turn off na ang engine, first 1hr ng rest period, yan po ang pinaka-mainit sa makina dahil wala nang supply yung coolant sa engine, yung singaw ng heat both engine at radiator)

pag dating naman sa extended or excessive idling,

Sa gasoline, mas mainit ang makina, mas malakas ang FC, yung lang, hindi gaano katindi yung carbon deposit/soot sa exhaust, unlike sa diesel, mas high volatile ang fuel, kaya kahit i-idle ng matagal, hindi gaano mainit ang makina, pero yung mga carbon deposit/soot sa exhaust, mas grabe yung build up.

ang effect naman, pag dating sa wear and tear sa engine, pareho lang, yung cooling system, naka-asa lang sa coolant at dun sa radiator fan connecting sa engine.

sa usage naman,

kung gasoline engine, 1.3 for pure city driving, 1.6 naman, kung combined city at highway
sa diesel engine, 2.5 na natural aspirated for city driving, kung combined, 2.2 to 2.5 na turbo charged,
(300NM to 380NM torque) FC efficient na, pero pag lumagpas na sa 400NM above, medyo malakas na sa FC, and advisable for long distance drive.

**dr. d** · November 24th, 2014 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by dct

Bro dapat ata same model? Accent gas and diesel. O kaya innova gas and diesel. Kasi talagang mas mura ang mirage kaysa sa accent gas

but why do you want to limit yourself to "same model" combinations?

**dct** · November 24th, 2014 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by dr. d

but why do you want to limit yourself to "same model" combinations?

Para apples to apples ang comparison

**bloowolf** · November 25th, 2014 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by Monty

Bloowolf, turbo timer lang katapat nyan.

Thought of that, but in my line of work, it won't work out for me:-( So I have the gas one in the workplace to move around & just use the diesel to go back & forth home.

**boy astig** · November 25th, 2014 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Ciz

Reliability
Maintenance
Cost
Etc po

And mas mura naman po diesel bat karamihan gas type ang ginagawa po o kaya puro gas type dinadala sa pinas.. Newbie po

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Old school diesel engines have atomic engines. As long as they are properly maintained, they just go on chugging. Newer diesel engines are more complicated to maintain but have put back the fun in driving a diesel. Newer gasoline engines are far more economical than their ancient ancestors (esp those in the 1.0-1.3 category). Surprisingly, the maintenance (for me) comes off as reasonable, especially when it is done outside the casa and with aftermarket parts.

This is my observation regarding the 1.0-2.0 car segment (please feel free to correct me). AFAIK, all the diesel cars in the market right now are turbo charged. So, as sir bloowolf had posted, you need to adjust your driving habits and time when using one. Of the gas cars, AFAIK Ford is the only one with a turbo charger. All the rest are NA.

HTH

**andrewnathaniel** · November 25th, 2014 12:50 PM

Regarding sa cool down, sanayan lang mga bro. Sa Accent Hatch ko nakasanayan ko na mag-cool down before shutting off the engine. Less than 2 mins ang cool down, pag medyo nagmamadali eh around 45 secs. Pag nagagamit ko na yung Lynx namin, nadala ko na ang habit ko na mag-cooldown kahit hindi ko naman ginagawa dati.

Sa extended idling naman, swerte lang siguro kame kasi taga-Probinsya kame. Hindi issue yung traffic, hindi prone sa matagal na idling. Kung gagamitin ang sasakyan, from point A to point B, minimum na ang distance na 20kms so hindi rin papasok sa severe driving condition na short distance trips.

Para sakin mas fun to drive ang gas engine. Smooth lang ang drive. Hindi ka nga lang magiging masaya sa FC kaya mas madalas ko gamitin ang diesel engine.