electric powered cars

[_Cathy_]

Iba din feeling if you tried a car with advanced technology.
Parang ayaw mo ng bumalik sa car if wala tong features na nasubukan mong useful.
Before, features such Apple Carplay/AA, 360 camera, ADAS features were only available on TOTL variants.
Once ma try mo na yan but on a non-Jap cars, maghihinayang ka nang bumili ng Jap cars na wala ang features na yan.

Good thing, Jap cars follows suit so naging level yung playing field in terms of features offering.

Here comes the Chinese brands and EVs, they are offering luxury features that are only available in European brands.
I won't be surprised more buyers were entice.
Im sure some of these buyers owned Toyota or Jap cars be it their previous cars of coding cars.
Sa price offering ng Chinese brands, hindi ka na rin lugi sa features at premium materials pa ang interior.

I'm just used to cars with practically no features nga (even the TOTL) LOL

the way i see it,
the premium EVs nowadays are status symbols.
the so-called "because i can".

I never imagined it would go that direction but I agree. Age gap guy told me that he wants to buy an EV e he has so many cars na. Aliw lang kasi siya

[Yatta]

Reliability of PHEVs / Full EVs / HEV in China under 2m PHP spreadsheet

Reliability of PHEVs / Full EVs / HEV in China under 2m PHP - Google Sheets

[boybi]

Age gap guy told me that he wants to buy an EV e he has so many cars na. Aliw lang kasi siya

Once you've driven a good EV, kakatamad na to drive ICE cars.

[carxynogen]

Reliability of PHEVs / Full EVs / HEV in China under 2m PHP spreadsheet

Reliability of PHEVs / Full EVs / HEV in China under 2m PHP - Google Sheets

Grabe na info to, pang press release.

[Miles_on]

I never imagined it would go that direction but I agree. Age gap guy told me that he wants to buy an EV e he has so many cars na. Aliw lang kasi siya

In short, wala nang magawa sa pera niya

[ale828]

Once you've driven a good EV, kakatamad na to drive ICE cars.

This is true.

I always tell anyone who likes to drive cars to test drive an EV and most can easily be converted.

I recently converted a very close friend whos family is a Toyota Loyalist. After his test drive of a BYD, he was sold.
grabe daw the features bakit daw wala ganun sa Toyota. he is getting the BYD next week.

[Yatta]

This is true.

I always tell anyone who likes to drive cars to test drive an EV and most can easily be converted.

I recently converted a very close friend whos family is a Toyota Loyalist. After his test drive of a BYD, he was sold.
grabe daw the features bakit daw wala ganun sa Toyota. he is getting the BYD next week.

Like it or not, doon na talaga papunta.

I'm just wondering though if that ardently anti-EV (whether hybrid or pure electric) local tuner who is also very MAGA thinks about EVs now, given that Elon Musk makes EVs.

[Walter]

My Uncle's former GF just bought an electric car. I was curious because I don't recognize the emblem so I googled it. I assumed it was cheap kasi China car. I was shocked na it costs P4.8M WTF! Xpeng X9. Sana nag Land Cruiser na lang siya

Why? ... Because it's a Toyota? ... Land Cruiser is overrated ...

[_Cathy_]

Why? ... Because it's a Toyota? ... Land Cruiser is overrated ...

Yes

P4.8M is too much of a risk for a China car, but based on the discussion here, China EVs are for people who have too much money.

[_Cathy_]

Proven na talaga. I'm surprised na ang naging market ng CHINESE electric cars are rich car guys? I know a handful na bumili ng BYD, sa bagay they can risk millions, parang toy car lang nila I guess. Yesterday I found out that my Ahya (known him since I was a teen) bought a BYD then today, an FB friend who owns several luxury Euro cars bought a BYD din. What's with that brand ba? Sino dito my BYD? hehe

[boybi]

So far, BYD lang naman ang pinaka reliable Chinese car brand. No. 1 na sila in the world in terms of EV car sales.

[GTcervan]

One time last march nakasabay ko grupo ng mga byd shark sa balintawak toll plaza. Sila ata yung papuntang north that time na may kasamang mga oto journalists. Maganda naman porma pero kahawig ng ford ranger. Sana ginawang mas distinctive yung design.

[kuyadriver]

nakakatempt talaga tong mga electric cars but won't it be more expensive since our electricity rates are higher? another concern of mine is about emf exposure which i read from CarsRadiation.org. dami nilang info about the risks of using EVs and hybrids although may mga recommended naman silang tips para mapababa yung exposure.

[dr. d]

nakakatempt talaga tong mga electric cars but won't it be more expensive since our electricity rates are higher? another concern of mine is about emf exposure which i read from CarsRadiation.org. dami nilang info about the risks of using EVs and hybrids although may mga recommended naman silang tips para mapababa yung exposure.

if all we are interested in are fuel versus electricity expenses, someone must already have made these computations that clearly favor the electricity bill.
but once we input the cost of the traditional versus hybrid or EV... where is the break-even odometer reading, i wonder...?

emf exposure?
in my opinion,
we've been living around radios and TVs and all sorts of electric motors for decades...

[Yatta]

nakakatempt talaga tong mga electric cars but won't it be more expensive since our electricity rates are higher? another concern of mine is about emf exposure which i read from CarsRadiation.org. dami nilang info about the risks of using EVs and hybrids although may mga recommended naman silang tips para mapababa yung exposure.

versus putting a celfone right next to your brain everytime you make a call?

[ale828]

nakakatempt talaga tong mga electric cars but won't it be more expensive since our electricity rates are higher? another concern of mine is about emf exposure which i read from CarsRadiation.org. dami nilang info about the risks of using EVs and hybrids although may mga recommended naman silang tips para mapababa yung exposure.

Meralco rates are php 13/kw while gas is over php 50/Liter
for equivalence sake we make 1/Kw equal to 1 liter of gas.
If you have solar panels at home it might even be Zero cost for fueling an EV.

[kuyadriver]

Meralco rates are php 13/kw while gas is over php 50/Liter
for equivalence sake we make 1/Kw equal to 1 liter of gas.
If you have solar panels at home it might even be Zero cost for fueling an EV.

wow! ang laki nga pala talaga ng difference of EVs compared to traditional cars when it comes to costs.

[Dr.Kamiya]

ev-database.org has Wh/km data on many cars. Just multiply by the meralco rate and divide by 1000 (to convert to kWh) to get the running cost in pesos per km.

To convert km/li to li/km just have 1/(km/li), so if a car is getting 10km/li then it's using 0.1li/km. Multiply by the gasoline price to get running cost in pesos per km.

So for an example:

Tesla Model Y Juniper RWD = 164 Wh/km = .164 kWh/km * P12.2628/kWh (Meralco rate as of May 2025) = P2.01/km

Car with 10km/li = 0.1 li/km * P54.85/li (91 octane price at Unioil Rosario Pasig as of today) = P5.485/km

So at about 20-25km/li a car will get to running cost parity with a Model Y RWD.
But that's before you figure in oil changes and scheduled maintenance every 5000km. If you pay P5000 for each of those services and do then every 5000km, that's an additional P1/km.
I think the big difference is an ev doesn't waste electricity by idling, so your idle power consumption is only the A/C and the gadgets. It's not negligible, but there's less waste than a car. Fudge factor na lang maybe 10-20% if you're stuck in traffic at noon.

Tesla maintenance AFAIK is almost non existent, only doing repairs as needed or scheduled check every two years. This is from the Model 3 manual:

[ice15]

but once we input the cost of the traditional versus hybrid or EV... where is the break-even odometer reading, i wonder...?

I ran some numbers before buying our Zenix hybrid...

If fuel costs lang, there's no way for me to break-even that 283K price difference!

Pero the Hybrid has power seats, ADAS etc...

Tesla maintenance AFAIK is almost non existent, only doing repairs as needed or scheduled check every two years. This is from the Model 3 manual:

Same with BYD. once a year PMS is a big plus, super nakaka-abala na yung every 6 months ng Honda and Toyota (quarterly for non-hybrid Toyotas cars!)

[donbuggy]

How close are we to solid state batteries for electric vehicles? | Ars Technica
Superionic materials promise greater range, faster charges and more safety.

by M. Mitchell Waldrop
Oct 11, 2025

Every few weeks, it seems, yet another lab proclaims yet another breakthrough in the race to perfect solid-state batteries: next-generation power packs that promise to give us electric vehicles (EVs) so problem-free that we’ll have no reason left to buy gas-guzzlers.

These new solid-state cells are designed to be lighter and more compact than the lithium-ion batteries used in today’s EVs. They should also be much safer, with nothing inside that can burn like those rare but hard-to-extinguish lithium-ion fires. They should hold a lot more energy, turning range anxiety into a distant memory with consumer EVs able to go four, five, six hundred miles on a single charge.

And forget about those “fast” recharges lasting half an hour or more: Solid-state batteries promise EV fill-ups in minutes—almost as fast as any standard car gets with gasoline.

This may all sound too good to be true—and it is, if you’re looking to buy a solid-state-powered EV this year or next. Look a bit further, though, and the promises start to sound more plausible. “If you look at what people are putting out as a road map from industry, they say they are going to try for actual prototype solid-state battery demonstrations in their vehicles by 2027 and try to do large-scale commercialization by 2030,” says University of Washington materials scientist Jun Liu, who directs a university-government-industry battery development collaboration known as the Innovation Center for Battery500 Consortium.

Indeed, the challenge is no longer to prove that solid-state batteries are feasible. That has long since been done in any number of labs around the world. The big challenge now is figuring out how to manufacture these devices at scale, and at an acceptable cost.