Starter or Alarm??

Ano ba symptoms na pasira na starter?

Last saturday kasi, I couldn't start my car (97 Accord VTi-S, AT). Ni walang redondo, just a click. I thought na na-activate yung starter kill ng Clifford alarm, so I disconnected the batteries for 2 hours. Nasa "P" din yung AT. Pero when I reconnected it, ayaw pa rin mag-start, just a click. I checked the fuses (starter and ignition), OK naman. I put the alarm on valet mode, disconnected the battery, then reconnected again, pero ayaw pa rin.

So I called an auto electrician, yung may alam sa mga alarms. He totally disconnected the alarm, tapos pag-pihit nya, on the 2nd try, start agad. Sabi nya starter daw, baka upod na carbon brush or marumi na contact. Eh singil nya sa labor, 1k (excluding parts), asap pa daw palitan.

Pero, di ako convinced, kasi, I never had problems starting the car before. Also, nagloloko na talaga yung Clifford, ilang beses (4x) na ngang pinatay nya yung electrical connections (as in patay), despite the battery being connected, when I started the engine. Each time, I had to disconnect/ reconnect. Perwisyo talaga, kaya I had the alarm disconnected na.

So what do you think, starter or alarm?

change alarm then if symptoms persist, starter

Try changing the relay for the ignition kill first. Separate component naman iyon from the alarm ECU.

check your battery if it has the right voltage.

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Originally Posted by OTEP

Try changing the relay for the ignition kill first. Separate component naman iyon from the alarm ECU.

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Na-check din ng auto-electrician yung relay, ok naman daw. I dont want to spend money repairing the starter eh I never had problems before with it. Duda ko kasi, gusto lang rumaket nung mekaniko

And yes, my battery is of the right voltage

afaik ang isa sa symptoms ng starter na merun problem is that you can hear the click pero hindi magreredondo ang starter...at this case the culprit is the solenoid contacts or the brush of the starter.

since more than 8 years old na oto mo, the brush or the contacts sa solenoid might need some replacement na (assuming it haven't been replaced earlier). I have a 60% gut feel that it was your starter and not the alarm or the battery causing the problem.

my 2 cents.

palagay ko starter din kasi kung patay na ignition mo dapat kahit click wala yan

Alisin mo na lang muna yung starter kill. Pull out the relay and restore the wiring to OEM (rekta). :) Para lang macheck kung babalik ang problem.

i agree with wildthing ... baka brush o kaya yung contacts na sa solenoid ang problema :)

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Originally Posted by wildthing

afaik ang isa sa symptoms ng starter na merun problem is that you can hear the click pero hindi magreredondo ang starter...at this case the culprit is the solenoid contacts or the brush of the starter.

since more than 8 years old na oto mo, the brush or the contacts sa solenoid might need some replacement na (assuming it haven't been replaced earlier). I have a 60% gut feel that it was your starter and not the alarm or the battery causing the problem.

my 2 cents.

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Just had my starter disassembled. According to the mechanic, makapal pa yung carbon brush and yung armature, so chineck nya yung solenoid. Yun daw ang problema. Akala ko brush lang, eh 60 petot lang yun.

Problem was, wala kaming makitang brand new or surplus for my Accord (sa may Commonwealth Ave ako nagpagawa). Di kasi pwede yung sa Civic. So binalik na lang nya ulit, niliha na lang yung mga contacts.

Just spent P350 (labor) and 4 hours of my time for nothing. :( Hirap pala magbaba at magbaklas ng starter. Anybody have an idea kung magkano starter solenoid for the Accord? I got quotes kasi ranging from 950 - 1450 (kung may stock sana daw sila).

yung contacts ng solenoid ko ay nasunog na due the "sparks" generated pag nag-start...what we did was a remedyo....we copied the shape of the copper contacts and replaced the original with the "copy".

wala talagang nabebentang ganun.

okay na yung 950 to 1450 na cost ng solenoid, kaysa bumili ka ng buong starter assembly (aabot ito ng 6k).