I think basag ang tapon ng ilaw nyan kasi nka reflector. So malamang maraming glare yan.
I think basag ang tapon ng ilaw nyan kasi nka reflector. So malamang maraming glare yan.
these rides have good factory projector aims, I have seen a few of them in HID on the road, and there is zero glare, and they really look good. :thumbup: compared to Crv-07 projector or the Sportage-08 projectors which still glares on a HID. they require a little nod...
with regards to your fogs, I still see long light rays. but baka sobrang low lang talaga pag upo mo. The Reflector fogs are the most potential to glare even more. even the Projector fogs, they are designed to scatter the light... so maging sensitive po tayo lahat dyan...![]()
Last edited by rion; January 6th, 2009 at 06:11 PM.
from backreading, i gathered that my i need to convert my headlamp housing to the projector-type, if it is not yet that. pardon the seemingly idiotic questions, but i still have a vague understading of how this works and what i need to do despite reading practically all the posts in this thread.
1. my ride is a 2008 lancer (upg) 1.6 glx. is it the projector-type?
2. if not, what exactly do i need to convert it to HID?
3. do you know of any shop (except casa) that can supply all the things that i need and do everything that is necessary? it doesn't have to be the budget type, as long as they do a pretty good job. my car's still under warranty, and should something go wrong with the lighting, i'm thinking casa might not honor the warranty.
thanks!
sir, 2008 lancer glx has the clear headlamps assembly. smoked pa nga yan kung hindi ako nagkakamali.
what do you need to convert to HID, these are the things you need:
1. projectors - madami pong projectors sa market. you can choose which type you want, bi-xenon ba or pang low beam lang. as for the lancer glx, bi-xenon is the most appropriate. the popular projectors are acura tsx, infinity fx-r/fx35-45, lexus ls430, bmw e46, e55, even s2000 projectors.
2. shrouds - design lang naman eto para matakpan ang projector assembly at yung lens lang ang lilitaw. popular choices are e46 shrouds, oculars, type 1, gatling gun shrouds
3. ballasts - also, meron sa market nito at madami din. popular brands are denso, hella, matsushta (it is spelled as -ita), mitsubishi. also there are china ballasts, but does not last very very long.
4. wiring harness - though madali lang eto kasi you only need to know ang wiring diagram ng ilaw mo.
5. HID bulbs - you better use the d2s type bulbs, not the h4, h11, or other socket types. phillips bulbs are way to go, pero may kamahalan nga lang. there are china d2s bulbs but in the long run, medyo nababawasan ang efficiency ng ilaw. AFAIK, philips bulbs lasts for 6 years
6. clear headlamps - this is optional. bakit eto kasama? yun eh kung ayaw mo i-sacrifice ang oem headlamps mo, or wala kang alternate car. kasi matetengga sa garahe ang sasakyan mo once it undergoes retrofitting. there are choices, replacement or oem. pero mostly, preferred ang replacement lang para mura
ako kasi sir, nagparetrofit ng sasakyan. my ride is a 2nd generation pajero. ang headlamps ko is not the clear type, frosted ang sa 2nd gen. ang fieldmaster, the 2.5 gen has the clear type headlamps. so no choice ako kundi bumili ng replacement headlamps at eto ang nabili ko:
and these are the projectors that i choose to be fitted in those headlamps, infinity fx-r/fx-35, 45 bi-xenon projectors:
also sir, retrofitting is very costly sir. depending on which type of bulb, projector, shroud, ballast you will use. roughly from 14k to around 30k ang cost ng retrofitting.
thanks for the feedback testament11. i'm still confused, though.
kung clear headlamps yong assembly ng auto ko, why would i need another set of clear headlamps? or did you just say it in case my car's assmebly is actually not the clear type? i dunno if it's the clear type.but i'm pretty sure the tail lights are smoked.
also, what does it mean to retrofit? it might sound like a stupid question, but i really don't know. i tried looking it up online but only got confused all the more.
on the projectors, shrouds, etc, how do i know which ones are compatible to my ride?
lastly the things that you mentioned, are they inlcuded in those "HID kits" being sold? if not, what are usually included in those kits?
sounds like you and xenonoptics posted some pics, but i think the mods took them out before i could take a look at them.
thanks!
if i'm not mistaken, bagong model ng lancer glx etong meron ka. so smoked ang head and tail lights po niyan.
bakit mo kelangan ng 1 pa, this is optional po sir. kasi po, kung magpaparetrofit kayo, kelangan ang headlights ninyo na baklasin at ibigay sa gagawa nito. kung may spare car kayo sir, ok lang na hindi mo na kelangan bumili ng 1. pero kung yan lang ang sasakyan ninyo at daily car pa, nasa sa inyo na yan kung magcocommute muna kayo or bibili ng spare headlamps. maybe you get what i mean po sir.
what is retrofitting, i can refer this site to you, http://www.theretrofitsource.com
eto masasabi ko what is retrofitting. retrofitting is somehow customizing your headlamp assembly. common is, retrofitting is putting projectors on your headlamps so that you can use hid responsibly.
as for the type of projectors, its your preference. pero usually, ang reference eh kung anong klase ang assembly mo. ang lancer has only one main light bulb inside, lo-hi beam na siya. for that, ang projector na bagay sa yo eh bi-xenon type. those type have hi and lo na solenoid controlled. sa shrouds, depende din sa yo yan kasi its more of a design na yan to cover the projector assembly.
depende po yan sir kung included. yun kay sir xenon po, those are what we call plug and play type ng projectors. so isang kit po yun. sa retrofitting po sir, lahat ng yun eh kasama na. all are customized, meaning you can choose what you want to be installed, from the type of projectors, to the type of hid bulbs na gusto mo.
the pics are still there sir, browse browse nalang po kayo sir. hope this clarifies your queries po
meron din po isang way ng pag retrofit na hindi kelangan butasan o sirain ang reflector lang pero it requires openning your headlight pero bolt on lang anytime nag sawa ka alisin mo lang eto po
may cut off din po eto po hindi ko pa naalign headlights duleng kasi ang setup ng halogen stock bulsb ko dati yung reflector lang ang i aalign niyo simply by turning the screws sasabay na ang projector
ganun lang pag lagay niyan
simpleng simple diba ako gumawa niyan hehehe
salamat sa mga feedback nyo. do you guys know any shop that can convert my HL to HID, yong meron na sila ng lahat ng kailangan ko at alam nila kung ano yong kailangan ng auto (ako kasi hindi ko alam), na hindi magtetake advantage sa kamangmangan ko, at syempre, yong maayos gumawa na walang masisira at ikakavoid ng warranty ko? demanding ba? hehe. nag-iingat lang.
btw, i really can't see the pics you guys posted.
xenonoptics, no offense meant, i'm not trying to ignore. in fact, i've just checked your website. i'm just trying to look at all options available and trying to learn as much as i can on this topic, lalo na kasi medyo wala kong alam pag dating sa HID.
thanks for all your inputs.
no prob chiefjust sharing my products with you pero kung ako tatanungin mo i'd go with hid lang ok na. mastipid malakas naman. check mo mga post ko sa ibang forums masmadami akong pics dun kesa sa website i dont update my website na kasi updated lang dun comments at feedback ng tao
Share ko lang at HID FAQ din ito in response to a post I read in another thread:
HID FAQ = high glare is not synonymous to a better brand of HID.... high glare is DISRESPECTFUL to incoming motorists and vehicles in front of you. Just my .02
First time ko to post here in years! I read through all 17 pages of the FAQ and its nice to see a lot more responsible HID owners now. I started doing HID retrofits in 2004 and I've done around 30-40 cars to date. I drive a 2003 CRV and just like most people here, I got a nice telescopic 8000k H4 HID kit. I thought it was the brighter since I can light up buildings all the way up to the 4th floor with just my low beams of course that's the awesome glare that come with these kits and CRV's massive headlights sure has a lot of glare. After getting flashed every night and driving through the rain in 8000k bulbs, I got rid of the kit.
I read about retrofits from US based websites and started asking about the conversion at accessory shops here but got no response so I decided to order a kit from the US which included original e46 projectors, Hella ballast and Phillips bulbs and decided to go through the DIY
here's my nice glare monster back in 2003:
I tried to salvage my blue 8000k HIDs buy adding a yellow "bulb condom". blue and yellow = what? you got it! the green monster
my first projectors: the e46 (I'm on my 4th projectors now and going to my 5th)
output
upgraded to Acura TSX projectors:
finally my current projectors (until my 5th upgrade next week). Acura TL with ZKW clear lens hybrid, bixenon (hi/low)
hi beams
You know you are a retro addict when you do this. I installed 9006 4300k hids in my fogs causing more glare than the headlights. solution: h3 projector with h3 hid bulbs in the fogs:
the output, nice and wide with no glare
Thats about it! sorry for the very long post, it just shows that we all start from the same place hehe! Any questions just asked away. This was definitely my most worthwhile investment sa CRV ko. I don’t want to count how much I’ve spent on it though!
Bri
welcome to the board bri_g! i hear a lot from you kay nighthawk. wala na ko masabi kung bakit magaling kayong 2 ni nighthawk sa retrofit industry. nice nice!
malupit nga si bri g hehehe. kita ko mga comments ng tao sa ai at mga pics ng gawa niya malupit talaga. bri g no offense lang pero i think yung h4 mo kaya may glare kasi single beam kaya finaflash ka ng tao? walang cover sa ilalim? kasi ako i use h4 hi/lo 50w pa siya wala naman nag flaflash sa akin. unles naka high beam ako which talagang nakaksilaw kahit halogen.
xenonoptics, thanks bro! actually yung H4 ko before may diffuser na yung H4 bulb, meron din diffuser yung headlight itself. With 2 diffusers, sobrang sabog pa din which is sakit ng CRV headlights talaga (ang laki kasi). I guess some headlights would have more glare than others.
new project coming up, the LS430 projectors:
perfect for the mountains haha!
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those LS430 projectors, kung hindi ako nagkakamali, are single beam projectors lang. nighthawk has one set na nandun na sa ae101 niya. at pinakita niya sa akin gaano kaganda ang buga niya, wala ako masabi... sibak ang fx-r ko dyan, hahaha...
yung diffuser na kasama sa car wala talaga silbi yun pag naka hid ka. bakit? kasi malayo siya sa bulb.. so lalabas talaga yung liwanag at tatama sa buong reflector. so sabog yan. then kung single beam yan gamit mo na h4 maliit din ang diffuser.parang ganito sa baba may nakakalusot na liwanag kaya nakakasilaw![]()
pag naka telescopic ka something like this.
yan totally yung lower portion ng reflector mo walang tatama na liwanag so wala siyang liwanag na lalabas pataas na nakakasilaw sa mukha ng tao. yung sinasabing pati bubungan ng bahay kita hehehe kasi yung upper portion ng reflector ang magkakaroon ng liwanag and yung ilaw galing dun sa sahig ang punta.
pero ayus nga ang mag projector for safety din.
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