Khaos Super Gas Saver

[Bogeyman]

At the very least it can be interpreted that the device is incompatible with the Ford Lynx.

After testing the thing on a thousand cars, this comes out only now? Will Inventionhaus and Pablo Planas please make this clarification in their big*ss bulletin boards, flyers and print ads, as well as the dealerships involved? Without it, people are being MISLED into thinking that the device suits all vehicles with internal combustion engines.

Don't wait for people to find out the hard way that Khaos is not compatible with certain vehicles. What good is their research and development if it's the consumer who has to discover that the product is seriously flawed?

"Extensive" testing. Riiiiiight....

[the_wildthing]

More than 15,000 Khaos units have been sold. 3 unsatisfied Lynx owners can hardly count as a trend that the Khaos device does not work. At the very least it can be interpreted that the device is incompatible with the Ford Lynx.

Of course, 15,000 units sold does not mean that it DOES work either. It may also be taken to mean some 15,000 people have been duped into believing it works.

[ghosthunter]

More than 15,000 Khaos units have been sold. 3 unsatisfied Lynx owners can hardly count as a trend that the Khaos device does not work. At the very least it can be interpreted that the device is incompatible with the Ford Lynx.

Can you justify your claim of 15,000 units sold?

BTW, its also incompatible to Ford Expedition and Chevy Venture.

[empy]

I believe it is unfair to judge the product as a hoax

i believe it's more than fair to judge it as a hoax until proven otherwise. as has been said repeatedly in this thread, this device has been around for decades in various iterations, and various consumer and scientific authorities have all come out and said that it does not work.

the burden of proof is on khaos to tell us why it's different. so far, all we've seen is a 30 year old test on a carb motor that incidentally provides damning evidence that khaos drastically increases three different types of harmful emissions.

[ghosthunter]

.... all we've seen is a 30 year old test on a carb motor that incidentally provides damning evidence that khaos drastically increases three different types of harmful emissions.

actually one test was done in the 1990s on a 19 year old Datsun owned by the government. It was claim to do 4km/L and with khaos it did 5km/L. I think a tune-up would do the engine a lot better....

[ghosthunter]

As for Black Lynx testimony, I believe it, but his case may be the exception more than the rule.

excuse me, my brother has a FORD EXPEDITION and a CHEVY VENTURE. He had them both fitted with the Khaos device. After that both vehicles experienced a noticable LOSS in engine power, sluggish acceleration and NO gain in fuel milage.

In the end, my brother just had both devices removed and into the garbage (where it belongs).

Another satisfied customer of Khaos.

[BlueBimmer]

re the problem of the lynx right after installing Khaos, its as clear as daylight that Khaos caused that problem. very slim chance it was a simple coincidence.

[mazdamazda]

dapat isali sa Home TV Shopping ang KSTC. :bwahaha:

[Bogeyman]

dapat isali sa Home TV Shopping ang KSTC. :bwahaha:

Sobra ka naman. May mga mga produkto naman sa Home TV Shopping na credible. :D

[empy]

dapat isali sa Home TV Shopping ang KSTC. :bwahaha:

funny you should say that...i just saw one of the khaos clones being advertised on the US home shopping network. i think one of them also has some infomercials out there but i'm not sure

[ILuvDetailing]

Somebody in Khaos mentioned about testing KTSC in 1000 different kinds of cars, siguro naman kasama na yung Ford dun diba?

[BlueBimmer]

im curious what could make the lynx different from other cars? i can only guess maybe sensitive ecu ng lynx

[BlueBimmer]

1000 different kinds of cars...wow sipag naman pala ng mga testers ng kstc e..dapat may credible proof from those THOUSANDS of cars...kahit isa lang?

[ILuvDetailing]

Please give us a list of the "1,000 cars" you tested and the results - the before and after results. Enough with the vague explanations, we want to see NUMBERs and under real world tests (e.g. driving around quezon city and manila in rush hour).

[mazdamazda]

some funny quotes from the KSTC website

Is Khaos Super Turbo Charger (KSTC) proven already?
Yes, it has been used by motorist for 30 years already and it gone thorough testing conducted by leading car manufacturers and government agencies.

now... let me see that list of car manufacturers!

[Freeman]

I doubt the claim if they actually had 1,000 controlled case studies. They probably are basing it on 1,000 customers.

[ghosthunter]

Just curious...

15,000 units sold
30 units/month average sales

does it compute?
15,000/30 = 500 months
41 years

I guess Mr. Pablo Planas was busy all these years since Marcos time. :eviltongu

[Freeman]

Just curious...

15,000 units sold
30 units/month average sales

does it compute?
15,000/30 = 500 months
41 years

I guess Mr. Pablo Planas was busy all these years since Marcos time. :eviltongu

Let me help you w/ a brief background. The product was conceived 30 years ago. Back then it was called Super Gas Reducer. It was only in 2003 that Mr. Planas got financial backing for the product and went full blast late in 2003. It was then renamed to Khaos. I have read that the present Khaos device is on its 4th generation, designed to work with contemporary automobiles.

At present there are 80 dealers nationwide (and still growing by the day). There are also 5 international distributors (which is also growing by the day).

Within a period of about 6 months and 1 week, 80 dealers averaging 30 units a month can easily move 15,000 units.

Khaos is big business, they have a 10 figure sales forecast (in Philippine currency) for this year. Mr. Planas, now in his 70's, labored for 3 decades to finally find success and comfort in life.

Only time will tell if this Filipino dream come true will endure or come crashing down in flames.

Either way it'll go down in history.

[cyberdoc95]

Let me help you w/ a brief background. The product was conceived 30 years ago. Back then it was called Super Gas Reducer. It was only in 2003 that Mr. Planas got financial backing for the product and went full blast late in 2003. It was then renamed to Khaos. I have read that the present Khaos device is on its 4th generation, designed to work with contemporary automobiles.

At present there are 80 dealers nationwide (and still growing by the day). There are also 5 international distributors (which is also growing by the day).

Within a period of about 6 months and 1 week, 80 dealers averaging 30 units a month can easily move 15,000 units.

Khaos is big business, they have a 10 figure sales forecast (in Philippine currency) for this year. Mr. Planas, now in his 70's, labored for 3 decades to finally find success and comfort in life.

Only time will tell if this Filipino dream come true will endure or come crashing down in flames.

Either way it'll go down in history.

Parang ganito din yata yung nilagay ng father ko sa '78 Corona namin before na Super Gas Reducer. After six months, tinanggal ng father ko kasi nawala yung power ng makina. Kaskasero pa namin dad ko noon so hindi pwedeng mahina ang makina. I never heard of anything Gas saver device na gamit ever since sa amin after that.

[ghosthunter]

Let me help you w/ a brief background. The product was conceived 30 years ago. Back then it was called Super Gas Reducer. It was only in 2003 that Mr. Planas got financial backing for the product and went full blast late in 2003. It was then renamed to Khaos. I have read that the present Khaos device is on its 4th generation, designed to work with contemporary automobiles.

At present there are 80 dealers nationwide (and still growing by the day). There are also 5 international distributors (which is also growing by the day).

Within a period of about 6 months and 1 week, 80 dealers averaging 30 units a month can easily move 15,000 units.

Khaos is big business, they have a 10 figure sales forecast (in Philippine currency) for this year. Mr. Planas, now in his 70's, labored for 3 decades to finally find success and comfort in life.

Only time will tell if this Filipino dream come true will endure or come crashing down in flames.

Either way it'll go down in history.

15,000 units
80 dealers
6 months of operation

Thats about 1 unit per day per dealer.

Have you thought of the overhead when you claimed that figure?

Thats ONE unit Khaos device costing P6,500.00 will pay for the ff:
-salary of the dealer
-salary of the mechanic/installer
-rent of the location
-logistics of distribution (delivery van, etc)
-advertising percentage
-advertising material (brochures, etc)
-percentage cut of the investor
-materials cost
-manufacturing cost
-hoses and fittings
-electricity
-phone

I wouldn't be surprised if the manufactured cost of the device is just P250 to P500 per piece. The remaining balance is gross profit.